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Krea and Azwell literally did the same amount of hits per second in that video, you're just utterly failing at seeing that. You provided the evidence with the video you linked, if you can't recognize that then I have no idea what to say to you.

Azwell did 19 hits over 32 seconds that comes out to at least 1.6~ hits per second (32 / 19)
Krea did 21 hits over 34 seconds that comes out to at least 1.6~ hits per second (34 / 21)

 

Out of some really crude and quick math thats what I got and it is not including attack speed changes since they were not using gems. Honestly someone may have to correct me on it since I may have done it backwards. But just straight looking at it without doing the math there is a 2 second difference and a 2 hit difference between the two weapons. To me? That seems pretty damn similar and the only factor that seemed to be contributing to the difference was mana/stamina management.

Look at this image test between Nouver and Kutum; the difference is even less significant than the Azwell/Krea video, but the Kutum still pulls ahead in PvE regardless. This is why people consider Kutum better for PvE. You need to stop taking things purely at face value...

 

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Look at this image test between Nouver and Kutum; the difference is even less significant than the Azwell/Krea video, but the Kutum still pulls ahead in PvE regardless. This is why people consider Kutum better for PvE. You need to stop taking things purely at face value...

 

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That is showing Kutum/Nouver, that isn't what is being talked about...what does that even prove? Did you just try to straw man? Really? I mean at least be less obvious about it. Wow.

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That is showing Kutum/Nouver, that isn't what is being talked about...what does that even prove? Did you just try to straw man? Really? I mean at least be less obvious about it. Wow.

The entire point of your argument is that the differences are too insignificant to conclude anything. That image test only shows a few damage points between Kutum and Nouver, even less significant than the Azwell/Krea video. How is that a strawman? 

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The entire point of your argument is that the differences are too insignificant to conclude anything. That image test only shows a few damage points between Kutum and Nouver, even less significant than the Azwell/Krea video. How is that a strawman? 

The differences between those two weapons, mainhand weapons, not offhand weapons and not Kutum or Nouver. The entire point of my argument was in relation to those specific items, I never brought up anything outside of Krea, Rosar or Azwell, and the brief mention of Yuria because it was referenced in the video.

Simply, just because I am defending my point in this circumstance it does not translate to every other circumstance. This isn't an argument against any Nouver vs Kutum differences, this is purely pertaining to Krea/Rosar vs Azwell.
 

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The differences between those two weapons, mainhand weapons, not offhand weapons and not Kutum or Nouver. The entire point of my argument was in relation to those specific items, I never brought up anything outside of Krea, Rosar or Azwell, and the brief mention of Yuria because it was referenced in the video.

Simply, just because I am defending my point in this circumstance it does not translate to every other circumstance. This isn't an argument against any Nouver vs Kutum differences, this is purely pertaining to Krea/Rosar vs Azwell.
 

Again, you're dismissing the evidence in the video because the differences are apparently "insignificant". By this logic, we can dismiss the difference between Nouver and Kutum because they're also insignificant. And the image also debunks your extra slot theory because the Parrying dagger is doing the same damage as the Krea dagger despite having only one slot. 

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Just do world bosses and get a liverto bundle.  Then open it on wensday.

cause they drop so often.......

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Nah i am just sniping the rosar weaps from ah, it's duo now might make it tri.

But i wish to skip liverto this time and go straight for a kazarka, but atleast i have the rosar for the time being.

I got a buncha rosar kregs of gahaz bandits, if u feel like farming your own, I dunno how plentiful they are on the mp

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I got a buncha rosar kregs of gahaz bandits, if u feel like farming your own, I dunno how plentiful they are on the mp

Thanks for the tip!

I just was on the early side of making the rosar krieg. So they where plentiful when i started making my main weap for dk. But looking now their isn't really much left not even in the special deals tab. So i hope some people read you're reply so they can make the weap for them self's ^_^

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Hey guys, sorry to bring it up again, but I would love to get a conclusion from reading all this.

After reading all of this I would go for Rosar over all the other green ones... 
But... (Excluding Kzarka) - Is it better to get Rosar or Liverto? Before I can get my hand on kzarka. 

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Hey guys, sorry to bring it up again, but I would love to get a conclusion from reading all this.

After reading all of this I would go for Rosar over all the other green ones... 
But... (Excluding Kzarka) - Is it better to get Rosar or Liverto? Before I can get my hand on kzarka. 

Kzarka>Liverto>Green

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