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x2 Special Evasion 10% vs. x2 DR + 3, Weight Limit, etc

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Would you prefer the former or latter gems for chest?

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Would you prefer the former or latter gems for chest?

2x Special Evasion for sure. Special attacks are Down Attacks, Back Attacks, Air Attacks, etc. Could potentially save your life after a CC if a Down Attack just doesn't hit you.

Also to add to that, always keep in mind that Damage Reduction isn't all that great. Hasn't been great since Awakenings released.

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In my opinion black magic cobelinuses or at least res stones in armor

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The bulk of the "oh sh*t" damage comes from special attack multipliers. I'd say having a 20% chance to ignore it is pretty huge over DR(wtf does this even translate to?) or 200(lul) extra hp. 

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over how much HP you must calculate first of EHP using dr+eva+hp

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over how much HP you must calculate first of EHP using dr+eva+hp

I don't know how to do that. Do you know? I have 284 DP and 2.9k HP

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Question is :do you think it s gonna matter to have only 20% chance to dodge this status, when skills have high modifier and tremendous amount of hits. :thonking:

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Question is :do you think it s gonna matter to have only 20% chance to dodge this status, when skills have high modifier and tremendous amount of hits. :thonking:

Yes this is why I'm asking which one is better. I'd love to keep the special evasion gems but I'm also considering other factors such as the amount of hits I will take and/or the amount of players hitting me

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Yes this is why I'm asking which one is better. I'd love to keep the special evasion gems but I'm also considering other factors such as the amount of hits I will take and/or the amount of players hitting me

Damage reduction will be worth it only if you can stack a lot and you already have good DP/evasion.

Overall i think max HP is always more valuable especially when it comes with resist like the vigor gems for exemple.

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Damage reduction will be worth it only if you can stack a lot and you already have good DP/evasion.

I mean, did you even read what you wrote there?

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+1 for special attack evasion. I used cobe for a long time an switched to evasion an the difference is very noticable.

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The thing about special attack evasion is has anyone even tested it to see if it works lmao.  Ya sounds great in theory 20% evade down attacks! any tests to see real worl dpvp performance?

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I mean, did you even read what you wrote there?

Yes i saw what i wrotte, did you?

20% evade of those status isn't enough, to make it more valuable than max HP imho.  Just see how much having 20% chance only to resist CC in this game is worth, and that s even with skill that has a few hit, so now you can imagin with skills that has like 10+ hits easy. If people use accuracy build (which is kinda what a lot of ppl are leaning towards now) your evasion build is going to be negated as warrior.

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Critical attacks count as special attacks, just like amongst what ultimate offhands provide.

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Yes i saw what i wrotte, did you?

20% evade of those status isn't enough, to make it more valuable than max HP imho.  Just see how much having 20% chance only to resist CC in this game is worth, and that s even with skill that has a few hit, so now you can imagin with skills that has like 10+ hits easy. If people use accuracy build (which is kinda what a lot of ppl are leaning towards now) your evasion build is going to be negated as warrior.

You are discussing something completely different in this message than you what you had have written up there.

I will write again what you wrote... "Your DR will only be worth if you have already got a decent evasion build"

You still do not realize do you?

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Dude, just tell him why it is stupid so maybe warriors that come across this will learn something.

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You are discussing something completely different in this message than you what you had have written up there.

I will write again what you wrote... "Your DR will only be worth if you have already got a decent evasion build"

You still do not realize do you?

No i m not discussing something different, i said it will only be worth it if it you use evasion build and even then the difference is minimal, and i said overall hp gem is better, the reason being it works all the time no matter what build you have or others have........

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No i m not discussing something different, i said it will only be worth it if it you use evasion build and even then the difference is minimal, and i said overall hp gem is better, the reason being it works all the time no matter what build you have or others have........

Are you like completely retarded, if you have a good evasion build why the ----- would you invest into DR then? You know if you evade something your DR can be over 9000+ it won't affect jackshit.

0 dmg + / - X on square 0 dmg is always going to be 0 dmg.

I would go deeper, but i don't see the point talking about warrior evasion, dr scaling with a sorc maining person.

The only thing i agree about is HP, HP can never be bad in any situation.

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Are you like completely retarded, if you have a good evasion build why the ----- would you invest into DR then? You know if you evade something your DR can be over 9000+ it won't affect jackshit.

0 dmg + / - X on square 0 dmg is always going to be 0 dmg.

I would go deeper, but i don't see the point talking about warrior evasion, dr scaling with a sorc maining person.

The only thing i agree about is HP, HP can never be bad in any situation

Do you prefer the special evasion gems or the DR gem with the HP on it? 

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Do you prefer the special evasion gems or the DR gem with the HP on it? 

I use HP because it is optional for any situation also DR just like DR, I HATE TO RELY ON RNG, ----- RNG AND ALL THE SCRUBS WHO THOUGHT IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT RNG EVEN INTO THE COMBAT SYSTEM.

But if you go -----ing evasion, then go deep evasion don't -----ing mix it -----s sake like 50 this and 50 this then you are useless both ways. ( this last line is not an answer for you honeyx )

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I use HP because it is optional for any situation also DR just like DR, I HATE TO RELY ON RNG, ----- RNG AND ALL THE SCRUBS WHO THOUGHT IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT RNG EVEN INTO THE COMBAT SYSTEM.

But if you go -----ing evasion, then go deep evasion don't -----ing mix it -----s sake like 50 this and 50 this then you are useless both ways. ( this last line is not an answer for you honeyx )

How do you go "deep evasion"? I use a tri muskans, two +5 agility gems, valencia meal also has evasion, am I missing something for warrior?

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention I'm using the 2x special evasion gems right now

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How do you go "deep evasion"? I use a tri muskans, two +5 agility gems, valencia meal also has evasion, am I missing something for warrior?

Sicil,Centaur, Furniture, Alchemy Stone. ( the DP from centaur and sicil are evasion )

You can add add-on also but that is just a cherry on the cake.

 

edit: then you meet someone with accuracy and you cry.

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Sicil,Centaur, Furniture, Alchemy Stone. ( the DP from centaur and sicil are evasion )

You can add add-on also but that is just a cherry on the cake.

Is pure evasion viable for warriors? As much as possible I wanna dish a lot of damage while being annoyingly evasive/tanky.  And do you advise the pure evasion build for warriors if your enemy is/are using red coral earrings?

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Is pure evasion viable for warriors? As much as possible I wanna dish a lot of damage while being annoyingly evasive/tanky.  And do you advise the pure evasion build for warriors if your enemy is/are using red coral earrings?

I am not this evasion guy who dives into zergs, i am just a person who does the tests with one of our guild member for all kind of shield, build tests between DR and evasion.

If you wanna talk with a warrior about this then go and speak to @Chors

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Are you like completely retarded, if you have a good evasion build why the ----- would you invest into DR then? You know if you evade something your DR can be over 9000+ it won't affect jackshit.

0 dmg + / - X on square 0 dmg is always going to be 0 dmg.

I would go deeper, but i don't see the point talking about warrior evasion, dr scaling with a sorc maining person.

The only thing i agree about is HP, HP can never be bad in any situation.

My love Oneuproad! 

We say those harsh words in the heat of the moment, and we regret later... :(

The word retard and ---- is bad way of communicating.
I know for a fact how sweet and gentle you are. :x

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