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Evasion build and Casting Speed


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So far I share my armor and accesories on all my characters, but I want to get seperate gear for my main, a witch. I've looked around and seen that evasion build (rocaba helm+glove+muskan+evasion secondary) is pretty good on a witch, but I run into a problem. The build recommends using +5 evasion crystals on helmet, but then I must sacrifice 4 casting speed. I COULD get 2 CS back trough weapon crystals, but then i would loose 10 AP. Is +10 evasion worth loosing 4 casting speed?

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I wouldn't recommend evasion build unless you have Kzarka Staff because of the cast speed on the staff plus one memory crystal is 5 cast speed.

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If you don't care about crit chance from crystals, you can go for 2x Viper in Gloves with Kzarka, if you don't have it it's not worth it and think about getting Precision crystals for Kzarka if you have it, instead of Power ones. (i'm talking about black crystal ones ofc. same for Viper)

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The last cs u get from food, as in most cases u get better stat from an extra crystal slot if u wanna min max

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The last cs u get from food, as in most cases u get better stat from an extra crystal slot if u wanna min max

which food (aside from limited-available event buffs) gives 2 castspeed?

because i would rather rotate through serendian meals (5 ap, 10 acc 1 crit -> to reach 5 crit), valencian (mandatory) and a milk tea or other similar one for the xp buff.

 

if you have kzarka + 4 piece boss armor then the mediah special could give you the last missing 1 castspeed along with 5 ap, but thats not an option in evasion builds with rocaba.

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which food (aside from limited-available event buffs) gives 2 castspeed?

because i would rather rotate through serendian meals (5 ap, 10 acc 1 crit -> to reach 5 crit), valencian (mandatory) and a milk tea or other similar one for the xp buff.

 

if you have kzarka + 4 piece boss armor then the mediah special could give you the last missing 1 castspeed along with 5 ap, but thats not an option in evasion builds with rocaba.

its mediah food yes, and i also dont like using it as id rather prefer using another 3rd food.

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+3 from kzarka, +1 from boss set, +1 from crafted set at costume mill (takes $15 cash shop to turn this into a usable costume). 

This is how i get +5 cast speed on sorc while maintaining x2 evasion gems in head and x2 red power in weapon.  Assuming that wizards outfit also gives +1 cast/attack speed. 

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+3 from kzarka, +1 from boss set, +1 from crafted set at costume mill (takes $15 cash shop to turn this into a usable costume). 

This is how i get +5 cast speed on sorc while maintaining x2 evasion gems in head and x2 red power in weapon.  Assuming that wizards outfit also gives +1 cast/attack speed. 

and how to get 5 crit?

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and how to get 5 crit?

Two Valor gems and serendia food.  I use serendia, knights, valencia (hq version serendia in node/seige so i can get jungle hamburg on as a fourth food). 

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Just wanted to give an alternate crystal setup that gives 5/5 with complete choice of helm crystals.

Cast Speed: Kzarka (+3) & Boss Armor Set (+1) & BMC: Viper in gloves (+1 CS / +2 acc)

Crit: Valor in gloves (+2) & Margoria Food (+2) & crafted costume (+1)

The advantages of this setup include only requiring one food and an extra +2 acc from the viper. Disadvantages are requiring full boss armor (no rocaba) and crafted costume ($15 and you can't look different). 

You could switch to rocaba and get the last CS from mediah food. Also looking into using the coral belt (+1 crit version) instead of the crafted costume.

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+3 from kzarka, +1 from boss set, +1 from crafted set at costume mill (takes $15 cash shop to turn this into a usable costume). 

This is how i get +5 cast speed on sorc while maintaining x2 evasion gems in head and x2 red power in weapon.  Assuming that wizards outfit also gives +1 cast/attack speed. 

but the evasion build includes rocaba helmet + gloves, so no boss armor set bonus.

I never really understand why people would sacrifice ~10 accuracy from bhegs for 5 evasion, when its also known that accuracy scales slightly better even, but thats how dp/evasion builds roll.

 

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but the evasion build includes rocaba helmet + gloves, so no boss armor set bonus.

I never really understand why people would sacrifice ~10 accuracy from bhegs for 5 evasion, when its also known that accuracy scales slightly better even, but thats how dp/evasion builds roll.

 

Yeah its a bad choice for sure.  Muskan ands bhegs should be everyones eventual goal. 

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u could have a addis (i think its called) that gives +1 cast +1 crit and +2 ap in wep, that will cap your cs and crit (im using it atm even tho there could b a betr option)

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Currently running 2 x Agility, 2 x BMC - Precision in weapon and 1 x BMC - Viper + 1 x BMC - Valor (with full boss ofc)

Leaves me at 3 crit with Serendia Special, could run the +1 crit clothes if I wanted to as well though or another food + shock elixir in a party setup. In the future we'll get +5 accuracy viper which IMO would be flat out better than the crit

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which food (aside from limited-available event buffs) gives 2 castspeed?

because i would rather rotate through serendian meals (5 ap, 10 acc 1 crit -> to reach 5 crit), valencian (mandatory) and a milk tea or other similar one for the xp buff.

 

if you have kzarka + 4 piece boss armor then the mediah special could give you the last missing 1 castspeed along with 5 ap, but thats not an option in evasion builds with rocaba.

Stir-Fried Oyster  gives +2 cast speed

but the evasion build includes rocaba helmet + gloves, so no boss armor set bonus.

I never really understand why people would sacrifice ~10 accuracy from bhegs for 5 evasion, when its also known that accuracy scales slightly better even, but thats how dp/evasion builds roll.

 

Appearently accuracy isn't that of a big deal for witches/wizards due to the high boost in accuracy from awakening skills. That is why Rocaba helm+gloves and muskan+tree is a popular set. 

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but the evasion build includes rocaba helmet + gloves, so no boss armor set bonus.

I never really understand why people would sacrifice ~10 accuracy from bhegs for 5 evasion, when its also known that accuracy scales slightly better even, but thats how dp/evasion builds roll.

 

You definitely don't have to go Rocaba to build evasion. That's a whole 5 evasion that you're giving up a lot for (1%cs, 100hp, 10+ accuracy). Afaik it's more like 4 evasion b/c Giath gives more evasion than Rocaba according to datamined info. 

Appearently accuracy isn't that of a big deal for witches/wizards due to the high boost in accuracy from awakening skills. That is why Rocaba helm+gloves and muskan+tree is a popular set. 

Wiz/Witch are smart to take the low hanging fruit accuracy from Bheg's, because evasion stacked characters will still cause a lot of misses even with 25% from abilities - even if we ignore the few abilities with 12-15%. Especially Ninja and Kuno, who can stack insane amounts of evasion with just their buffs and Tadd. 

Especially Wiz will still grab some accuracy if they want to land their grab with any regularity. 

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Your forgetting about centaurs belt and sicil necklace also adds evasion.

TRI centaurs=15 evasion TRI sicil necklace=9 evasion

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