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Bidding system needs to be gone :(

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Waiting and watching market for 3 hours and constently refreshing YET fail on purchase or sold :( NOTHING FOR 3 HOURS OMFG for real ? fix this

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Yeah rng market is the dumbest thing. Though it'll probably never be changed so you best start praying.

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Well either you are new to the game, or used a bot before that you think it's now worse.

Because before they introduced bidding, with normal playing you got nothing, didn't even have a small chance.

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We dont have the same bidding system at the start. Guess what ?people still moan about marketplace bots and people with better ping. Whatever cowcow do retards will still just moan.

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The problem with the bidding system is when you're buying something, is some f--ker puts up an item for a lower price then you have to wait through the entire bid phase just to buy your item. For example I'm in the middle of buying a couple stacks of beer then one guy decides to list 1 beer at the lowest price just to make people wait. (✿◡‿◡)

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You are new probably. Unless you were a marketbotter yourself. 

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The problem with the bidding system is when you're buying something, is some f--ker puts up an item for a lower price then you have to wait through the entire bid phase just to buy your item. For example I'm in the middle of buying a couple stacks of beer then one guy decides to list 1 beer at the lowest price just to make people wait. (

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Waiting and watching market for 3 hours and constently refreshing YET fail on purchase or sold :( NOTHING FOR 3 HOURS OMFG for real ? fix this

Let me guess, your a Ex-Marketplace-Botter?

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Let me guess, your a Ex-Marketplace-Botter?

Nope semi new

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There's a lot of things wrong with this game, but none are worse than that bidding bullshit. It ruins the experience of buying anything in this game. I like the idea that I can preorder, but not at the cost of standing at the market and trying to make one stinking purchase for 30 minutes. Dumbest economic design in MMO history.

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Depends on what you want to buy.
Yesterday I was able to get over 20 grunil armors in about 40 minutes. I lost some 60, but I did get the number I needed. However if I try to get a DK outfit, chances are I'm not going to get one.

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Nope semi new

Oh you leveled up.  When do you become legendary? :D

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Waiting and watching market for 3 hours and constently refreshing YET fail on purchase or sold :( NOTHING FOR 3 HOURS OMFG for real ? fix this

And how do you suggest they set it up instead?

Make the items magically multiply by the number of people that hit "bid" so everyone wins?

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Bidding system is fine. It just sucks that you're normally bidding against thousands. The bonus is that you don't lose to whales who can outbid you. The downside is that thousands are all bidding for the same item. So basically you're trying to win the lottery.

I personally prefer a lottery system than a Whales Win system.

 

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only problem is is you are forced to buy the lowest priced items, so you often have to sit and wait for the bidding to finalize....just to have someone list another item that hits bid phase.

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Honestly the issue with the lowest price items is the worst part of the bidding system 

 

still a much better than competing with market place bots

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Bidding system is fine. It just sucks that you're normally bidding against thousands. The bonus is that you don't lose to whales who can outbid you. The downside is that thousands are all bidding for the same item. So basically you're trying to win the lottery.

I personally prefer a lottery system than a Whales Win system.

 

But there are thousands others that would not want a lottery in any form cuz lottery is the ultimate unfairness. A whale win system is better because once that whale gets what he wants I may get to be the one next in line if I can save up enough silver, that alone gives me hope to go on. Where as RNG is basically hopeless.

And how do you suggest they set it up instead?

Make the items magically multiply by the number of people that hit "bid" so everyone wins?

That would be a solution I suppose, after all this is a fantasy game lol. At least that is the fairest solution.

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But there are thousands others that would not want a lottery in any form cuz lottery is the ultimate unfairness. A whale win system is better because once that whale gets what he wants I may get to be the one next in line if I can save up enough silver, that alone gives me hope to go on. Where as RNG is basically hopeless.

That's a load of crap. Every MMO in existence that allows whales to buy up stock will always result in whales buying up the stock to control the market. Whales might not profit, but they can control who the items go to. No just no. One of the best factors of this game is that whales can't control the market.

 

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That's a load of crap. Every MMO in existence that allows whales to buy up stock will always result in whales buying up the stock to control the market. Whales might not profit, but they can control who the items go to. No just no. One of the best factors of this game is that whales can't control the market.

 

But RNG is the ultimate unfairness, u can't defend that. Anything is better than RNG. 

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The system in place now, even though rng heavy, is world's better than what we had before.

You would still never get anything then either.

At least now you have a chance.

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The system in place now, even though rng heavy, is world's better than what we had before.

You would still never get anything then either.

At least now you have a chance.

No not with RNG, chance mean nothing when result is not equal. Everybody has a chance but only one person gets the result that's not fair, everyone should get the same result for the sake of equity.

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But RNG is the ultimate unfairness, u can't defend that. Anything is better than RNG. 

You're looking for the devil where he doesn't exist. RNG might not be "your" friend, but in this case it helps somebody else. Somebody else actually won and received the item. Those who didn't get it, are just losers with sour g-----s who wish to moan "OMFG! RNG is the worst!". Sure,  RNG can be a ----- when you're trying to enhance an item, I'll give you that. But when RNG always produces a winner, as in the case of bidding... then -----ing about RNG is just sour g-----s. Get over it. An RNG where there's no winner is a hard pill to swallow, and can be moaned about. An RNG where there's "Always" a winner is an entirely different entity. When there's always a winner the losers are just puckering from sour g-----s. Get over it, and move on.

 

 

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You're looking for the devil where he doesn't exist. RNG might not be "your" friend, but in this case it helps somebody else. Somebody else actually won and received the item. Those who didn't get it, are just losers with sour g-----s who wish to moan "OMFG! RNG is the worst!". Sure,  RNG can be a ----- when you're trying to enhance an item, I'll give you that. But when RNG always produces a winner, as in the case of bidding... then -----ing about RNG is just sour g-----s. Get over it. An RNG where there's no winner is a hard pill to swallow, and can be moaned about. An RNG where there's "Always" a winner is an entirely different entity. When there's always a winner the losers are just puckering from sour g-----s. Get over it, and move on.

 

 

What makes u think that it's ok to have only one winner? Everybody with enough money wants to buy so everybody needs to get something in return not just one winner and others left with nothing.

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We dont have the same bidding system at the start. Guess what ?people still moan about marketplace bots and people with better ping. Whatever cowcow do retards will still just moan.

Because they still influence a lot. Not as extreme as without bidding, but still.

Or do you really believe, when 100 items are sold per day, the one that manually checks and clicks in the market, has the same chance as someone who lets his macro run 24 hours nonstop?

The argument is so lame "in bidding everyone has the same chance". Well I tell you, non-cheaters would have much better chance if all the scripts and macros wouldn't be used. So of course they are still a problem. Even for you. Except you are using macros/scripts, then you will like the situation.

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But RNG is the ultimate unfairness, u can't defend that. Anything is better than RNG. 

Random is the the epitome of fairness, you may want to rethink that. Everyone has the same chance of winning at the bid.

Would you prefer the old system with only a captcha where the fastest typer with the lowest ping wins?

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