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Is Sorc. really the most difficult class to play, but also the most powerful?


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It also seems to be the most popular class.

Why?

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No and no.

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Not difficult, spam i lframe and block. The combos might be a little more complex than other class but that not saying much.

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Highest skill ceiling is Ninja.

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What is the most difficult class?

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Neither. Ninja is the hardest to play, while the most powerful.. depends on circumstance. 1v1s is likely zerker, large-scale.. witch or wizard, probably wizard.

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Not difficult, spam i lframe and block. The combos might be a little more complex than other class but that not saying much.

if spamming iframe on sorc ever helped anyone and block basically says hey other classes that have a throw come throw me. 

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What is the most difficult class?

well i find ranger playing at the highest lvl is annoying but not difficult. Nothing is difficult, this is a game not rocket science. If you want a class with a little more complex combos and a little more Reliance on combos for kills. Probably ninja. All the class will boil down to ur timing and knowledge of the class ur fighting.

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Sorc isn't most powerful, but it's fun to play and the skill cieling to kill plebs isn't that high. Going from casuals to qualified opponents however requires knowing more than just spamming i-frames.

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sorc isn't the most powerful class, at the most it's midcore with a learning curve from "Iframe spam scrub" to "iframe/combo/switchfrombasetoawakened",
If anything has a high skill ceiling, it's Ninja.

At the moment, the most powerful class currently are witch/wizards ((I'll never understand why in almost every single mmo mage classes are the most powerful))

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wiz : easiest to play and most op

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sorc isn't the most powerful class, at the most it's midcore with a learning curve from "Iframe spam scrub" to "iframe/combo/switchfrombasetoawakened",
If anything has a high skill ceiling, it's Ninja.

At the moment, the most powerful class currently are witch/wizards ((I'll never understand why in almost every single mmo mage classes are the most powerful))

What ppl seem to forget is the stamina and shards of darkness management.

 

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Sorc is far from easy, not the hardest though 

 

ranger has a pretty high skill cap along with maybe tamer too 

 

ninja and kuno are difficult too, but the can go invis which is a pretty cheesy and op engauge 

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Sorc is kinda hard to play.

imo the hardest class to play by far is ranger the key inputs are insane u have to press like q+a+Lmb which is like so awkward to pull off during a fight. 

Ninja imo is super easy to play though the key inputs are easy, high survivability due to high eavasion passives, tons of easy to land CCs. Also has a grab.

The easiest 3 are warrior, witch and wizard though.

 

 

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I find Valk to be a really easy class to play PvE wise. The skills are on easy to reach keys for sword and board, and Lancia. Shield Throw will carry you to 50 with ease. You can spam SoJ for friggen forever with the regen awake on it(unless it was changed recently) and the Lancia's RMB attack by using the Spacebar attack after every other skill while dealing a decent amount of damage. Then you have an easy heal, nothing great but it helps.

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what is Iframe ?!

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ranger has a pretty high skill cap

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if spamming iframe on sorc ever helped anyone and block basically says hey other classes that have a throw come throw me. 

because intellegent use of block means you going to walk up to melee range of a grapple glass and just block right? sorry fact is having spammable iframes AND block makes them not exactly a difficult class to play. have to agree with what others have said. ninja's are the hardest class to play well.

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higher skillcap than the other fotm classes. but not the highest.

not the best class. not the worse, just a good class.

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3.0

But dude, seriously, ranger's buttons are the hardest to press, u should know what I mean if u have played the class.

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Sorc is not hard to play, neither are the combos.

It is just the game mechanics are designed so poorly that the sorceress toolkit is totally useless post awakening in pvp. You cannot close gaps, you are always wide open when moving etc, no useful SA, the block is sometimes useful but inferior to blocks of other classes cause the animation.

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Ok first of all sorceress is not as storng as people think or make her to be.

Iframes don't work as they did at the start of the game. You cannot spam it and be 100% secure as some people claim. It especially shows when fighting a ranger who uses a bow you can try spam the nightcrow but you will get some hits between. Unless one of you is lagging that is but that is another story of how the legend of the iframes came to existance.

 

Second I'm not sure it's the hardest but it has a few downsides.

One already mentioned is shards of darkness. NO OTHER CLASS HAS THAT. When you use a skill and wan to take fulla dvantage of it you need to see if you have enough mana and time and if it's not on cloodown. On sorc you also have to consider shards of darkness as s resource for a lot of skills. how do you gather those shards? Easy they regnerate over time there are skills that can give you all 30 with one click (but take a bit of your life for it) or you can get them by hitting an oppponent...with your amulet (yeah scythe gives you literally 0). So it get's preatty tricky in pvp when you have one more thing to consider. Also you can have a max of 30 and most skills use 10-15 shards and the famous AP buff takes all. It would be a great mechanic if 2-3 other classes would have similiar things but nope we make a special case.

Second is a lot of sorc mobility skills burn stamina like a dragon and you might end up unable to utilize their normal mobility if you don't watch it.

No real self healing (skill for this on a sorc is a joke :P ), doesn't have any skill to replenish their mana to max like most classes and nightcrow ona  scythe always makes yous top and swing the damned thing stoping you in place making you an ideal target :P .

 

It's not a bad class but it seems they experimented a lot tot ry and make it unique, they somehow succeed but made a few  things that can irritate. not a class I would recommend for a begginer unles they feel the need for a little challenge.

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ranger's buttons are the hardest to press

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Ok first of all sorceress is not as storng as people think or make her to be.

Iframes don't work as they did at the start of the game. You cannot spam it and be 100% secure as some people claim. It especially shows when fighting a ranger who uses a bow you can try spam the nightcrow but you will get some hits between. Unless one of you is lagging that is but that is another story of how the legend of the iframes came to existance.

 

Second I'm not sure it's the hardest but it has a few downsides.

One already mentioned is shards of darkness. NO OTHER CLASS HAS THAT. When you use a skill and wan to take fulla dvantage of it you need to see if you have enough mana and time and if it's not on cloodown. On sorc you also have to consider shards of darkness as s resource for a lot of skills. how do you gather those shards? Easy they regnerate over time there are skills that can give you all 30 with one click (but take a bit of your life for it) or you can get them by hitting an oppponent...with your amulet (yeah scythe gives you literally 0). So it get's preatty tricky in pvp when you have one more thing to consider. Also you can have a max of 30 and most skills use 10-15 shards and the famous AP buff takes all. It would be a great mechanic if 2-3 other classes would have similiar things but nope we make a special case.

Second is a lot of sorc mobility skills burn stamina like a dragon and you might end up unable to utilize their normal mobility if you don't watch it.

No real self healing (skill for this on a sorc is a joke :P ), doesn't have any skill to replenish their mana to max like most classes and nightcrow ona  scythe always makes yous top and swing the damned thing stoping you in place making you an ideal target :P .

 

It's not a bad class but it seems they experimented a lot tot ry and make it unique, they somehow succeed but made a few  things that can irritate. not a class I would recommend for a begginer unles they feel the need for a little challenge.

1. Abyssal Flame, Bloody Calamity, and Dead Hunt makes Sorcs one of the most sustainable classes in hp.

2. Mana leech skill add-on for DoD on a Sorc literally gives her 0-100 mana when used on a crowd of mobs. If you don't take this skill add-on, you're doing pve wrong.

Sorc is most played probably because since the release of this game Rangers, Witches, and Wizards are overrated cookie-cutter range classes in every mmo, Tamers are Loli's and can't be taken seriously, Berserkers are ugly as Karok from Vindictus, and Warriors have no tits.

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1. Abyssal Flame, Bloody Calamity, and Dead Hunt makes Sorcs one of the most sustainable classes in hp.

2. Mana leech skill add-on for DoD on a Sorc literally gives her 0-100 mana when used on a crowd of mobs. If you don't take this skill add-on, you're doing pve wrong.

Sorc is most played probably because since the release of this game Rangers, Witches, and Wizards are overrated cookie-cutter range classes in every mmo, Tamers are Loli's and can't be taken seriously, Berserkers are ugly as Karok from Vindictus, and Warriors have no tits.

Tamer & Kuno get a better sustain. 

AF is bug 1/2, bloody calamity sometimes.

DoD awakened works only in PvE not PvP just saying

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Ninja & Sorc are the most difficult class in this game. Sorcerer is suffering of many pitiful design in pre-awak and awak stance. We have a LOTS of abilities USELESS.

Absolute darkness,sharp hand, sinister energy, black wave (pvp especially and past 56), sinister shadow, sinister omen (completely bug for nearly 3 years), shadow riot (totaly UNSAFE & irrelevant for PvE and PvP), mark of the shadow (except if you spend 77 Skill point to got -30% target's movement speed for 5 sec), passive for 3 dp and 3 evasion (60 skill point), released darkness does almost 0 damage for 40 skill points ....

In top of that SA is bug on reaper's judgement, cartian's nightmare vs bound. Wiz and kuno are completely immuned with SA vs bound.

We consume at each dash 250 stamina + 150 stamina ( storming crow), 300 stamina with violation, 100 with harvest soul, 1 stamina with all abilities! Some abilities stuck/block stamina regeneration (DoD, AF and more...)

We lack of SA on some abilities like dead hunt, harvest soul, blade of darkness and cry of darkness.

Each iframe, shadow leap, crow rush does a slash in front of you in awakening stance, we needed to cancel this EACH times (same with ninja but more difficult)!

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