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Nerf Witch and Wizard

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Well since the last thread about this was locked last month and absolutely nothing has been done to the extremely insane scaling witch/wizard have, might as well get it going again. Don't want to fix their damage scaling? Then take away all their super armor. I shouldn't be getting killed in my super armor chase while having 3,234 hp to a wizard attack.

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Well since the last thread about this was locked last month and absolutely nothing has been done to the extremely insane scaling witch/wizard have, might as well get it going again. Don't want to fix their damage scaling? Then take away all their super armor. I shouldn't be getting killed in my super armor chase while having 3,234 hp to a wizard attack.

Hah ... you have seen nothing yet ... wait for DK awakening ... AOE, Insane dmg, iframe mobility costing zero to none resources ... true ranged attacks .... yea will be a sh.it fest.

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Um no, awk DK is fine, Witch Wizard Warrior the 3W are the prime evils.

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You do realize DK is the direct counter to witch/wizard

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Um no, awk DK is fine, Witch Wizard Warrior the 3W are the prime evils.

Yes its fine alright :)

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You do realize DK is the direct counter to witch/wizard

Who care? Witch/wizard need huge nerf for sake of other classes.

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Who care? Witch/wizard need huge nerf for sake of other classes.

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and remove +20Ap passive!

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blader getting dunked by wizard :thenkeng:

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Who care? Witch/wizard need huge nerf for sake of other classes.

Don't know what the problem is. I kill wizards easily with 30 AP more than I have. so guess you just got to learn how to dodge.

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I don't think they need a nerf across the board, they just have way to much utility. A longer cd on their double teleport and a longer CD on their channel heal I think would be enough. Maybe minor tweaks on the damage but that would hurt the class to much. I don't know what the vision of the classes are. Is it that wizards are to strong? Or are other classes simply weak in comparison and need buffs. I don't know. 

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Don't know what the problem is. I kill wizards easily with 30 AP more than I have. so guess you just got to learn how to dodge.

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Who care? Witch/wizard need huge nerf for sake of other classes.

Witch Wizard are so insanely easy to play and overpowered. Remove all their frontal guard and super armors. Spell casters are not allowed to have block and armor makes no sense.

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Witch Wizard are so insanely easy to play and overpowered. Remove all their frontal guard and super armors. Spell casters are not allowed to have block and armor makes no sense.

Might aswell remove the entire class then.

There's a reason everything has superarmor. It's because every awakened ability in the game has some sort of crowd control, and because every single wizard/witch ability makes them completely stationary. Not having superarmor spam would make witch/wizard a free kill to anyone in a 1v1, and they would be useless in sieges outside of backline protected area/heal followed by unavoidable death the second someone decided to flank your backline.

Not saying its good design, but it is what it is.

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Might aswell remove the entire class then.

There's a reason everything has superarmor. It's because every awakened ability in the game has some sort of crowd control, and because every single wizard/witch ability makes them completely stationary. Not having superarmor spam would make witch/wizard a free kill to anyone in a 1v1, and they would be useless in sieges outside of backline protected area/heal followed by unavoidable death the second someone decided to flank your backline.

Not saying its good design, but it is what it is.

They are supposed to get killed 1v1

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They are supposed to get killed 1v1

If literally anyone, even with scrubgear, could kill me or any other witch/wizard as easily as they would if what you proposed had been implemented, noone would bother with the class and they would be considered the laughing stock of the PvP scene.

Already now the class is only overpowered in group fights (mainly because of utility and huge aoe). They are hard to deal with for some classes, but absolutely not overpowered in 1v1. Slow, stationary animations make them super easy to predict.

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If literally anyone, even with scrubgear, could kill me or any other witch/wizard as easily as they would if what you proposed had been implemented, noone would bother with the class and they would be considered the laughing stock of the PvP scene.

Already now the class is only overpowered in group fights (mainly because of utility and huge aoe). They are hard to deal with for some classes, but absolutely not overpowered in 1v1. Slow, stationary animations make them super easy to predict.

Yeah, tell that to the witches and wizards with teleport ranges the size of a football field and have misdirectional teleport as to not signal to the enemies where they are going to teleport next.

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Yes, please nerf wizards. I want to play a nerfed class, because I hate myself.

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Yeah, tell that to the witches and wizards with teleport ranges the size of a football field and have misdirectional teleport as to not signal to the enemies where they are going to teleport next.

Okay, next time i'll ping on the map for you where I'm going to teleport, so you can just wait at the spot where I'm going to land.

There is a reason for the misdirectional teleport.

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If literally anyone, even with scrubgear, could kill me or any other witch/wizard as easily as they would if what you proposed had been implemented, noone would bother with the class and they would be considered the laughing stock of the PvP scene.

Already now the class is only overpowered in group fights (mainly because of utility and huge aoe). Thiey are hard to deal with for some classes, but absolutely not overpowered in 1v1. Slow, stationary animations make them super easy to predict.

Damn my prediction wasnt good last night when I got grabbed and oneshotted with 283dp and 3700 hp in one skill.....

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Well since the last thread about this was locked last month and absolutely nothing has been done to the extremely insane scaling witch/wizard have, might as well get it going again. Don't want to fix their damage scaling? Then take away all their super armor. I shouldn't be getting killed in my super armor chase while having 3,234 hp to a wizard attack.

o look , a cry post about wizard ..again.

 

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Well since the last thread about this was locked last month and absolutely nothing has been done to the extremely insane scaling witch/wizard have, might as well get it going again. Don't want to fix their damage scaling? Then take away all their super armor. I shouldn't be getting killed in my super armor chase while having 3,234 hp to a wizard attack.

can u explain what class you are and what you are doing in the situations where the wiz or witch is killing you? Are you standing still or are you unsure how the class works making your actions tense, taking unecessary damage? Of course you should be killed in your chase if you were to be cc'ed or hit in that sweetspot inbetween your super armor.

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If literally anyone, even with scrubgear, could kill me or any other witch/wizard as easily as they would if what you proposed had been implemented, noone would bother with the class and they would be considered the laughing stock of the PvP scene.

Already now the class is only overpowered in group fights (mainly because of utility and huge aoe). They are hard to deal with for some classes, but absolutely not overpowered in 1v1. Slow, stationary animations make them super easy to predict.

Nah bro Witch/Wizard annihilate in other class like ranger even warriors 1v1 as well so many freaking frontal guard/armor skills 

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Damn my prediction wasnt good last night when I got grabbed and oneshotted with 283dp and 3700 hp in one skill.....

You would have to provide a little more context than this, like his AP and your class. Wizard ult is undeniably strong but with 283 DP anyone that can grab you and have decent gear will kill you before you get back up.

Nah bro Witch/Wizard annihilate in other class like ranger even warriors 1v1 as well so many freaking frontal guard/armor skills 

Now you are only embarassing yourself.

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Nah bro Witch/Wizard annihilate in other class like ranger even warriors 1v1 as well so many freaking frontal guard/armor skills 

This makes no sense, and clearly you have not played a wiz/witch yourself. It is easy to think class x being stronger when you dont know how it works mechanically. But worse is it when you come to forums to make wild claims based on superstition and bad performance.

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