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Nerf Witch and Wizard

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Yeah how do u think i have so much wp cause i stacked it with my gear and have high health level.

So me and my friend decided to see just how "vulnerable wizard is". So he hopped onto his level 56 Wizard and i went on my musa lifeskill alt. So he can basically chain super armor nonstop and have his teleport up when his SA is done and just keep going forever making him basically near impossible to cc while also getting to wait for his cooldowns as i need to close the gap every teleport. 

Yup 7 seconds of me just walking (not even sprinting). Not using any skills. Oh wait ur teleport you can chain SA and all your other shit till it's up before you can teleport again. 

Nice try bro tho. I like how u didn't even consider the fact that u only gain stamina back unless you are walking or standing still and using none of your skills. Really shows how well u know how this game works c:

My friend is a levle 60 Tamer, and as he was playing Wizard he realized how stupidly easy it is to play this class. As he sums it up "I don't even know what i'm doing, but i'm just smashing the buttons and somehow it's working"

Hold on

a Musa saying he can't keep up with a wiz teleport?

come on man you're not even trying

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wizards in bdo to OP?

 

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Can we close this troll thread already @CM_Aethon?

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I have wizards in my guild with 150ap, 400dp, full evasion even with rocba gloves and helemt, and they deal just as much dmg as me on 221ap., on top of being WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more tankier, and having 0-100 heal.

Bull no way a wiz with 150ap does more damage than a sorc with 221 ap.

A wiz with 400 dp can slowly whittle down a target because of the fact he can stay alive but no way does he do anywhere near the same damage withing the same timeframe as a 221 ap sorc. (unless maybe that sorc has absolutely no accuracy and misses the majority of his abilities against a evasion stacker maybe)

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so Pa or kako or whatever.. when can we expect wizard/witch nerfs?

so Pa or kako or whatever.. when can we expect wizard/witch nerfs?

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i dont regret wizards need to be some tune down in their shet. but whats the deal with witches? Witch have even slower casts than wiz and not a single counter to SA/guard. as well as a shet 100%. Wizard has a way better Range-CC with the Waterball and more movement.

Witch isn't a problem in 1v1, but since this game is balanced around GvG they need a slight tune down. The incredibly geared witch's (with some skills) can legit destroy your team by himself, and if they have a zerker it's gonna be a nightmare for you. They are super long range (Wizard is medium/close ranged), and all their spells hit like a school bus going at 100km/h. 

Hold on

a Musa saying he can't keep up with a wiz teleport?

come on man you're not even trying

But i'm not a Musa ._. it was my life skilling alt. Baehwa 4 lyfe.

You can keep up with the teleport, but by the time you reach the Wizard he could've already healed a lot of the dmg you've done and just immediately chain SA again so you can't cc him. 

In a 1v1 it's fine, but in GvG it's cancer if the Wizard notices you and you don't get the sneak attack.

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I can't tell if you're actually stupid or just intentionally making yourself out to be. First of all ranger isn't permanently forced to stand still while damaging, nor are they locked to only one teleport every 7-10 seconds in terms of mobility. Secondly I can count 4 super armors in the ranger kit, excluding cold blade since that only applies on the 4th hit and the ability is shit. Additionally I count another 3 frontal guards. Oh and that's not mentioning the iframes that are scattered about.

If you want to troll go somewhere else.

Allow me to entertain you,

 

Our SuperArmors are as follows..

1. End of cold blade animation the most useless skill in the game

2. Vine Knot a very situational ability which is stationary as you jump straight in the air. 

3. Elvens rage a completely stationary ability which requires a charge up and forces you to stand completely still

4. Breezy blade which can be used in tandem with wind step. This Is probably the only somewhat useful superarmor although the end of the animation doesn't finish before you no longer have super armor so typically using this (even in combination with rushing wind) you are locked into an animation that any tard can see where you will end up. 

 

Now lets look at "First of all ranger isn't permanently forced to stand still while damaging,

1. Cold blade stationary ability with limited movement

2. Nature's tremble stationary with a "cast" time frontal block no superarmor

3. Regeneration stationary longer than needed animation with no super armor

4. Wailing wind completely stationary ability which gives us the most useless 100% ability in the game. No superarmor

5. Elvens rage completely stationary ability

 

AKA most of our kit is completely stationary. 

 

We get a frontal block on abilities which is easily countered by not being bad and getting to our back during the long animation and non-reliable block. 

Also I'd love to hear about rangers 'iframes' CoolStoryBob

Our dash is an iframe with a cooldown of 3 seconds which means out of every 3 or 4 dashes we will be iframing. If you aren't able to cc a ranger out of their dash its either cause you were unlucky to fall in that long cooldown timer or you missed your ability. Look at other classes that have "iframes" and then tell me again ranger has iframes loooool. 

 

 

Hey how about you go to your desktop click on the little black spirit that says "Black Desert Online" and try logging into the game for the first time. You might actually learn something instead of being useless and spreading incorrect information on the forums. 

When a wizard complains about a ranger in 2017 smh 

 

Ranger can be a very strong class although we are FAR from top-tier. There is a reason why so many are re-rolling. A ranger with very high AP and who knows their class can pull off some awesome stuff. Take that same AP and give it to a wizard and I can play with 1 hand on the keyboard and the other on your sister and still get more kills. 

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@Hype33

MRW a ranger main complains about wizards.

Gandalf-Thinks-You-Suck-In-Lord-Of-The-R

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With as much as our attacks get stopped in combat against people who aren't stupid, and the fact that our only viable escape is another skill that can be stopped in combat against poeple who aren't stupid, yeah, i'm pretty glad we out damage every other class with 1 skill that requires a 100% charge, since you know, it's what we're mostly limited to. Most of y'all don't PLAY wizards, only ----- and moan when you walk into our skills like idiots.
That's a problem with your skill, not our kit.

Go play a wizard man. Most y'all don't know shit.

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@Tryldom 

You're irrelevant 

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@Tryldom 

You're irrelevant 

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for months now.

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for months now.

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But i'm not a Musa ._. it was my life skilling alt. Baehwa 4 lyfe.

You can keep up with the teleport, but by the time you reach the Wizard he could've already healed a lot of the dmg you've done and just immediately chain SA again so you can't cc him. 

In a 1v1 it's fine, but in GvG it's cancer if the Wizard notices you and you don't get the sneak attack.

You said the alt you used was a musa, and maehwa has the same skill anyway. And no, the heal has a cast time and you can easily kick him out of it, and no he can't have super armor up because HE IS HEALING JUST USE ANYTHING ON HIM HE'S LITERALLY A SITTING DUCK

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You said the alt you used was a musa, and maehwa has the same skill anyway. And no, the heal has a cast time and you can easily kick him out of it, and no he can't have super armor up because HE IS HEALING JUST USE ANYTHING ON HIM HE'S LITERALLY A SITTING DUCK

But but i only have level 0 movement speed :c I can't run fast if i'm don't got my dank kush fam. 

Actually in a non-arena format, if they are skilled at juking, they can get at least one charge off before i'm close enough to cc. 

Ducks aren't the best animals to describe Wizard/Witch. I think Monkey is better. A sitting monkey.

With as much as our attacks get stopped in combat against people who aren't stupid, and the fact that our only viable escape is another skill that can be stopped in combat against poeple who aren't stupid, yeah, i'm pretty glad we out damage every other class with 1 skill that requires a 100% charge, since you know, it's what we're mostly limited to. Most of y'all don't PLAY wizards, only ----- and moan when you walk into our skills like idiots.
That's a problem with your skill, not our kit.

Go play a wizard man. Most y'all don't know shit.

You escape ability can be stopped in combat? You mean teleport? You mean ur -----ing iframe that sometimes goes off when you get grabbed? Plz i've never seen a Wizard/Witch get cc'ed when they press that dank TP button.

I played Wizard, i got it to 58 and nearly rerolled. I decided against it because it started getting boring. TY for the black star title though <3.

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wizards in bdo to OP?

 

OMFG!

This, so much this.

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Bull no way a wiz with 150ap does more damage than a sorc with 221 ap.

A wiz with 400 dp can slowly whittle down a target because of the fact he can stay alive but no way does he do anywhere near the same damage withing the same timeframe as a 221 ap sorc. (unless maybe that sorc has absolutely no accuracy and misses the majority of his abilities against a evasion stacker maybe)

ignore chunchun , hes known as troll and cry baby

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You escape ability can be stopped in combat? You mean teleport? You mean ur -----ing iframe that sometimes goes off when you get grabbed? Plz i've never seen a Wizard/Witch get cc'ed when they press that dank TP button.

I played Wizard, i got it to 58 and nearly rerolled. I decided against it because it started getting boring. TY for the black star title though <3.

The iframe only takes part while not visible, aka, it lasts only after the cast time. you missed a grab because we teleport it's because we were already in frame and you're lagging shit.

I doubt you played wizard if you've never experienced this, as it's something that happens quite often.

Get a better connection and stop asking for our class to get nerfed because your systems suck. ;) 

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Tbh its just wizard that needs nerfing, witch seems balanced 

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Tbh its just wizard that needs nerfing, witch seems balanced 

What is it that you've done on your wizard, exactly, that you feel needs changed? What skills to what percent, cooldowns, speed, etc.
I assume you have this data since you know what it is that is broken, exactly, right?
Or are you like the rest of the ignorant scrubs who play this game and cry about shit they're too slow to comprehend.

I'll wait.

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The iframe only takes part while not visible, aka, it lasts only after the cast time. you missed a grab because we teleport it's because we were already in frame and you're lagging shit.

I doubt you played wizard if you've never experienced this, as it's something that happens quite often.

Get a better connection and stop asking for our class to get nerfed because your systems suck. ;) 

1. I play Maehwa so i can never grab :D

2. I see wizard/witch literally teleporting out of zerker grabs very frequently. so i guess everyone's running on potatoes while you been running on a super computer

3. Every time a Witch/Wizard doesn't die from a knockdown they stand up and double tp out. Doesn't matter how many skills you throw they will cast double tp they are in iframe and do not take any damage and fly away. I have never ever seen a witch/wizard hit out of their double tp ever. Out of all the node wars, rbf, 1v1 never have i seen one.

Btw i have 20 ping, running on high settings with consistent 60 fps dropping to 40 when there's a cluster ----- in node wars.: But what do i know you're probably playing at 0 ping running at 9000+ fps :D

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1. I play Maehwa so i can never grab :D

2. I see wizard/witch literally teleporting out of zerker grabs very frequently. so i guess everyone's running on potatoes while you been running on a super computer

3. Every time a Witch/Wizard doesn't die from a knockdown they stand up and double tp out. Doesn't matter how many skills you throw they will cast double tp they are in iframe and do not take any damage and fly away. I have never ever seen a witch/wizard hit out of their double tp ever. Out of all the node wars, rbf, 1v1 never have i seen one.

Btw i have 20 ping, running on high settings with consistent 60 fps dropping to 40 when there's a cluster ----- in node wars.: But what do i know you're probably playing at 0 ping running at 9000+ fps :D

Oh oh oh okay so you've never experienced this. Roger.
Argument from ignorance.
Actually- For your information.
There are two types of knockdown. One is quicker to get up than the other, as the second type of knock down is defined as bound. Any player that is not bound will get up quicker than what they would if bound.
More than likely that's what you're seeing.
As I've stated, and for the information of those of you that don't know. ALL WIZARD/WITCH SKILLS can be interrupted.

You said "Hit out of double tp" you're missing what i'm saying.
WHat I'm trying to convey to you is that you can completely stop teleport from even happening, as it's a castable skill, thus susceptible to being interrupted while being cast. It then goes on cooldown for that 7 seconds which basically means, we're dead.

 

This is probably my 4th? Time? Posting this on these forums.
Always relevant, though.

 

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What is it that you've done on your wizard, exactly, that you feel needs changed? What skills to what percent, cooldowns, speed, etc.I assume you have this data since you know what it is that is broken, exactly, right?
Or are you like the rest of the ignorant scrubs who play this game and cry about shit they're too slow to comprehend.

I'll wait.

whoa mate, smoke a spliff. You dont have to go off on one. Its just wizard has so much more going for him, triple tp, a f aggy dress, grab, high dmg spells, i guess a slight nerf in 100 percent and other spells , but only slightly 

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whoa mate, smoke a spliff. You dont have to go off on one. Its just wizard has so much more going for him, triple tp, a f aggy dress, grab, high dmg spells, i guess a slight nerf in 100 percent and other spells , but only slightly 

Our 100% was already nerfed.
What else would you change about our only nuke skill?

You are aware we are a nuke class, right? What would you like to take away from the skill that is SUPPOSED TO DEMOLISH PLAYERS?
I'm curious because some of y'all act like wizard isn't what it is, and shouldn't be what it is, probably most likely because y'all aren't and don't want to be wizards but don't want a class that can delete yours if you don't get to them properly using a thing we call skill.

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Our 100% was already nerfed.What else would you change about our only nuke skill?

You are aware we are a nuke class, right? What would you like to take away from the skill that is SUPPOSED TO DEMOLISH PLAYERS?
I'm curious because some of y'all act like wizard isn't what it is, and shouldn't be what it is, probably most likely because y'all aren't and don't want to be wizards but don't want a class that can delete yours if you don't get to them properly using a thing we call skill.

im more bothered about the dress he wears.

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