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Karma is just plain stupid

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The karma system needs to be removed.

Its just stupid and i cant explain my frustration to how many times this shit has screwed me over. 

"lets make a pvp game where we punish those who pvp by loosing their shit and having to spend an hour if not hours grinding the -----ing karma back on low level spots where no one goes"
"Hey allso lets make it so everyone and their mother can attack you but if you defend yourself and kill the attacker you get more negative karma" 
Bilderesultat for retard

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I love this system. PK mode .. It reminds me of the first MMORPG I played, Rappelz.

The whole system is exactly the same, Except for how you get the karma back, instead of killing mobs there was a place where you can donate to a fetish with in-game money. or a p2w item that purify negative karma completely. I'd like to see this idea here too.

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I love this system. PK mode .. It reminds me of the first MMORPG I played, Rappelz.

To wear off the negative karma, instead of killing mobs there was a place where you can donate to a fetish with in-game money. or a p2w item that purify negative karma completely. I'd like to see this idea here too.

I mean if they removed the punishments souch as gem & experience loss then sure why should you not be made "rogue" but I'm not for loosing millions in gems and xp just cus for example, some idiot decides to grief a 5 man group with a low geared alt then swap back to his main just to cuck them. This has happen't to me several times when grinding at its getting old and annoying.

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I mean if they removed the punishments souch as gem & experience loss then sure why should you not be made "rogue" but I'm not for loosing millions in gems and xp just cus for example, some idiot decides to grief a 5 man group with a low geared alt then swap back to his main just to cuck them. This has happen't to me several times when grinding at its getting old and annoying.

I'm pretty sure you don't lose exp and gems in pvp.  If a mob kills you then yeah you lose exp and gems.

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@ChoeChoeTrain

Scroll down to the chart. 

Tldr, you do lose stuff if you're negative.

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The only change I'd like to see is that you should be able to defend yourself without losing Karma. Red or not if someone attacks you they made a conscious choice to initiate PVP and it shouldn't force you to flag and go further into the red just to defend yourself. 

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The only change I'd like to see is that you should be able to defend yourself without losing Karma. Red or not if someone attacks you they made a conscious choice to initiate PVP and it shouldn't force you to flag and go further into the red just to defend yourself. 

If not including the exp and gems and negative karma all around at the very least what you said here should be changed.
 

In fact it baffles me that it isn't already like this, kinda shows how short thought they were on open world pvp.

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@ChoeChoeTrain

Scroll down to the chart. 

Tldr, you do lose stuff if you're negative.

oops I was talking about if you weren't negative. If he was talking about being neg and pvping thats mb.

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Had to defend my spot again and the ----- kept returning even tho group was full.
Look at my karma and its 13k
Bilderesultat for the office god no gif

 

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BDO is NOT a PvP MMO.

BDO is NOT a PK MMO.

 

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BDO is NOT a PvP MMO.

BDO is NOT a PK MMO.

 

"Game has pvp but not a pvp game"

 

Edited by Piffi

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BDO is NOT a PvP MMO.

BDO is NOT a PK MMO.

 

that depends entirely on the players. If we wanted we could all go red karma and PK the sh1t out of eachother

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BDO is NOT a PvP MMO.

BDO is NOT a PK MMO.

 

Denile...it's not a river in Egypt.

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"Karma is just plain stupid" lol that title is just plain stupid.

 

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Learn some anger management skills and learn to share.  Pot calling the kettle black on the retard comment imho.

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Quit whining cause you lost, lmao

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"Karma is just plain stupid" lol that title is just plain stupid.

 

Ok, you read the title.

Learn some anger management skills and learn to share.  Pot calling the kettle black on the retard comment imho.

Anger management? you came to the conclusion that I was angry by me typing? dr.phill, there is a difference between angry and frustrated.

Quit whining cause you lost, lmao

I wasn't aware that you can go negative karma by loosing. 

 

-The fact you can become red is cool, what I'm saying is that the punishment and the sink hole is unnecessary to have in a game where its only engaging gameplay is grinding for exp and pvp.

BDO is NOT a PvP MMO.

BDO is NOT a PK MMO.

 

Every time I come to read other comments i see this and all I can think of is this guy.

Bilderesultat for history channel guy

 

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Yeah, learn to share

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that depends entirely on the players. If we wanted we could all go red karma and PK the sh1t out of eachother

And guess what, 95% of the Population don´t like PK´ers. B|

 

"Game has pvp but not a pvp game"

 

HAS PVP is NOT the same as is a "FULL PVP" Game.

With your Logic you could say BDO is a PVE Game, because it HAS PvE......

BDO is a PvPvE Sandpark MMO, even told by the Developers, you CAN kill Players, but if you can´t take the Pain, don´t do the Crime.

 

 

And yes, get some Anger Management.

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BDO is NOT a PvP MMO.

BDO is NOT a PK MMO.

 

This is an open world game. If you want access to the best spots you're gonna have to fight for it. This game might not revolve around pvp but if you want to get in the most profitable or highest exp per hour areas you are going to have to pvp. PvP is a large of this game whether you like it or not. So git gud or git out my way. 

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This is an open world game. If you want access to the best spots you're gonna have to fight for it. This game might not revolve around pvp but if you want to get in the most profitable or highest exp per hour areas you are going to have to pvp. PvP is a large of this game whether you like it or not. So git gud or git out my way. 

What are you drinking?

Read the whole Context, yes you CAN PK everyone, but also live with the consequences it brings, aka -Karma.

Git Gud at reading and understanding.

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This is an open world game. If you want access to the best spots you're gonna have to fight for it. This game might not revolve around pvp but if you want to get in the most profitable or highest exp per hour areas you are going to have to pvp. PvP is a large of this game whether you like it or not. So git gud or git out my way. 

Sure, feel free to be antisocial.  Just stop whining about the consequences.  Sound like you need to "Git gud!"

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alot if think want solve the issue.. like a 10 minute debuff  when one ppl are PK.. Remove Elion tear use positbility when die in pvp and remove the *go to node* choice on all way.

the trouble . is that Actualy Pearls abyss dont care of player and never communicate. seriously a Q:A need to be do each month. not 1 each fking years.

Communication is realy important. and Kakao/PA are realy bad on this think. So smooth the probleme will never be do.

The only way to solve this. is accept the actual system or never go Sausan/pirate.

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Sure, feel free to be antisocial.  Just stop whining about the consequences.  Sound like you need to "Git gud!"

pvp is player to player interaction and not antisocial at all, aside from the karma bombers the people who actually fight for the fight/spot tend to talk between and after the fights. Maybe you just get to salty to talk to the person who kills you and think everyone else are like that.

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Yep, as I expected.  well I guess it's better that you beat up under geared pixels than kicks kids from their wheelchairs irl and yell "pwned!"  a good outlet for your tendencies.

Hm so if a under geared guy tells me to invite him else he gonna grief me I am antisocial cause I don't want to carry him for no reason? Why am I forced to carry low geared ppl who are too lazy to grind another spot with less amount of mobs since they don't need main spots cause of their low gear since they can't handle the whole amount of mobs at this spot anyway? :thinking:

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