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Disable pearl gifting


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15k pearls lul good meme

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15k pearls lul good meme

I don't doubt it... I sold a potato 12 or 13 skill T8 with only drift for courser status for 5k pearls. No breeds obv.

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I don't doubt it... I sold a potato 12 or 13 skill T8 with only drift for courser status for 5k pearls. No breeds obv.

Yeah it doesn't cost 10k pearls to reroll the skills to be ideal. I think 5k for a t8 is okish though I can't see myself spending more than that.

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Not like @GM_Rhotaaz didn't tell people to REPORT PLAYERS DOING THIS nope not at all...

Actually, they very explicitly told people that there was no point in reporting players doing this, because it's not against ToS to offer in-game goods for pearls as long as you do so through the in-game mechanics.

Presumably, they think that players won't hold them accountable for being forced to spend cash if they aren't the ones applying the pressure.

They would not be the first game to make that mistake, but I guess they'll figure that one out the hard way.

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I am completely 100% against the gifting pearls for in-game items. Those two economies, RL pearl and in-game silver (I use that term very loosely) should remain split. I don't care what the arguments from entitled horse breeders or boss runners are. It's bad news, it's a bad direction. I get the Daum or Kakao or whatever they're calling their company today $$ goals but they're are on a very slippery slope. It opens up the door to players getting scammed, harassed, and playing in an environment that the developers simply can't police.

Disabling the pearl gifting is extreme tho and punishes other players who genuinely use it for what it was intended. There are other more elegant ways of finding a compromise.  

Add pearl(s) to your chat filter in the mean time.

Sorry to sound so harsh :)

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The solution isn't to block somebody for insisting on pearls. The real solution would be to ensure the people willing to pay pearls realize that they shouldn't be doing so. However, that's just not possible with the number of players in game with mommy's wallet buying daum cash and pearls. Whenever I mention receiving a new T8 through breeding on the forums, I get hit with PM's from people I don't know with offers of pearls to sell it to them. I just ignore them all, and have never sold any of my T8's for pearls. In fact, I have T8's in my stables that are out of breeding resets, and they'll only be sold to people I know in game, and even then I make it a point to do it on weekdays instead of weekends, and coordinate the listing/sale, to increase the likelihood that they'll get it. That's really really rare now though. Because I've had a high tier horse get sniped from the person I intended to sell it to, and not 30 seconds later the person that sniped it was advertising the horse he just sniped for pearls (which was jacked up because it'd require a stupid amount of pearls in Skill Change coupons to make it T9 eligible). Which is rotten, a sniper grabs it, then demands pearls to list it again, and he did nothing to earn it. But I'm sure he found a sucker to gift the pearls, at which time another sniper probably nabbed it and started the whole process over again.

 

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Yeah it doesn't cost 10k pearls to reroll the skills to be ideal. I think 5k for a t8 is okish though I can't see myself spending more than that.

10k pearls is 40 skill change coupons... To get the missing 6 skills, including both S skills? I'd consider the buyer VERY lucky if he managed that. People can spend 20-30 coupons on trying to get S:Sideways ALONE.

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@PM_Jouska, @CM_Aethon, @CM_Praballo, @CM_Yukimura, @CM_Serenity, @GM_Gemu, @GM_Rhotaaz

Now days on EU servers its almost impossible to buy any boss gear, T6 and above horses without spending 50-100euros on gifting pearls to the sellers.....

let me give you some examles:

"WTS TET sorc weapons dande/kzarka. Pearls for chance, don't care about successful transaction"

"WTS nouver/kutum/kzarka box for pearls"

"WTS T8 B - 15 Skills (6/7 for T9 Awakening) - Pearls" (asked the person wanted 15k pearls)

Let me ask you this: Was the idea of pearl shop gifting to turn this game into something where you cannot purchase any of the above mentioned items without paying real life money to the seller?

The gifting option has now achieved that. 

Disable gifting from pearl shop or add some limits to it, such as cannot gift to other people than who are in your guild or something.

The current state of the game cannot be healthy for it on the long run.

"value" and "price" are two different things.

since the prices is capped there need to be anything else added on top of it to make a "seller" actually sell his item. it's so funny that plebs think they'd all run around in full TET gear - that they "easily" sniped from the market without gifting and bidding system.

the truth is that nobody would ever sell boss gear on the market place if the bidding system was gone again. each of my gathering alts would run around with kzarka, dande, nouver. lol.. i prefer having the shiny weapon in my hand then having useless ~80 mil silver price after taxes.. that's so easily grindet in 6-7 hours.

> how long does it take you to get a pieces of boss gear? most likely weeks/month

This is the reason why everybody wants to buy boss gear. silver is worth anything since it can be created nearly infinitely. nearly everybody has like 300-400+ mil on the bank.. thinking that he's able to affort a dande/nouver/ what ever cause the prices is capped that low.. there are 1000 plebs trying to "snipe" each one of those items in the market... the value is through the roof.

but still: Nobody forces you to buy anything. BDO is a game that you have to do alot of stuff on your own. --> ignore pearl-sellers and drop your boss gear/ breed your t8 horse on your own xD 

 

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the "WTS TET sorc weapons dande/kzarka. Pearls for chance, don't care about successful transaction" is absolutely right.. since all those ******* started to "ask in chat for their guildies/friends/mummies" and they dont even pre-order an item on theirselfes the seller dont even has the chance to get anything out of the deal. and even worse: there is no possibility to check if they fullfilled the part of the deal and even tried to buy the item. no chance to report that scam. while the buyer can exactly track if the seller is listing the item after he got the pearls.

 

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when someone ask to list something for pearl, if its not a T8 (not T7 or less), just ignore, if nobody bothers then they will HAVE TO LIST.

 

dont fall for the pearl trade meme, guys.

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ll: Nobody forces you to buy anything. BDO is a game that you have to do alot of stuff on your own. --> ignore pearl-sellers and drop your boss gear/ breed your t8 horse on your own xD

 

Sure, and waste time on broken RNG.

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It's a problem because there's thousands and thousands of people wanting pearl items and they can't afford them, thus this is the only way they can obtain them. On top of that, silver has no use after a certain point because it can't really buy anything useful to someone very far into the games gear progression.

 

Silver becomes pointless, cash shop items are more in demand as there are MANY MANY super convenient to the point of "must have" features and most of them require cash only.

There is nearly no supply, and huge demand. Probably 1/10000th ratio of supply vs demand.

Solution?

Fix the supply - remove all pearl - > marketplace restrictions and perhaps up the amount of money required to buy pearl items for silver by 100%. Also add the ability to sell pearl boxes on the marketplace.

What does this solution do? Silver now has a use, you can buy every pearl item, and there's LOTS of pearl items to buy. You'll constantly want to be spending silver on those pearl items and silver will be useful and in high demand again..

What else does this do? It ensures the supply of pearl items can stay relaively equal to the demand, instead of being only able to supply 1% of the demand.

 

This will in turn, make the game have an actual, good economy for everyone involved and remove nearly ALL pay to win.

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Just allow personal trading

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It's a problem because there's thousands and thousands of people wanting pearl items and they can't afford them, thus this is the only way they can obtain them. On top of that, silver has no use after a certain point because it can't really buy anything useful to someone very far into the games gear progression.

 

Silver becomes pointless, cash shop items are more in demand as there are MANY MANY super convenient to the point of "must have" features and most of them require cash only.

There is nearly no supply, and huge demand. Probably 1/10000th ratio of supply vs demand.

Solution?

Fix the supply - remove all pearl - > marketplace restrictions and perhaps up the amount of money required to buy pearl items for silver by 100%. Also add the ability to sell pearl boxes on the marketplace.

What does this solution do? Silver now has a use, you can buy every pearl item, and there's LOTS of pearl items to buy. You'll constantly want to be spending silver on those pearl items and silver will be useful and in high demand again..

What else does this do? It ensures the supply of pearl items can stay relaively equal to the demand, instead of being only able to supply 1% of the demand.

 

This will in turn, make the game have an actual, good economy for everyone involved and remove nearly ALL pay to win.

Except for the guy ho is selling cash items ... he would be god like :)

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Do they get profit from this system? Yes.

Solved. This is all about business and they won't change anything about this. 

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You are really mean, if pearl gifting is disabled how are those people no lifing the game, living on welfare get anything from the Pearl shop?Kashkao is making money ,.deal with it....

Edited by Hayate
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At this point they should just allow silver trading since RMT is completely allowed via pearl gifting.

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Except for the guy ho is selling cash items ... he would be god like :)

Well he is a god cuz he pays the server upkeep fee for u F2P ppl

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@PM_Jouska, @CM_Aethon, @CM_Praballo, @CM_Yukimura, @CM_Serenity, @GM_Gemu, @GM_Rhotaaz

Now days on EU servers its almost impossible to buy any boss gear, T6 and above horses without spending 50-100euros on gifting pearls to the sellers.....

 

Why are you entitled to their item?

 

If you want to fix this problem - tell game developers to raise the prices on the marketplace so people selling these items aren't getting -----d in the ass every time they list it.  That's the entire reason this gifting system exists, is because the marketplace makes you sell a 300 mil item for 95 mil or a 5 billion item for 2, etc.

I don't care what the arguments from entitled horse breeders or boss runners are.

BabyRage WAHH WAHHA BabyRage EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD SPEND THEIR TIME AND RNG DOING EVERYTHING BabyRage AND I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY IT FROM THEM AT PISS POOR PRICES BabyRage CUZ I'M AN ENTITLED SOCIALIST MILLENNIAL BabyRage

 

that's all I saw in your post.

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Sure, and waste time on broken RNG.

if you are not willing to put in the work.. Even if its rng.. Then u dont deserve a top tier weapon.

 

Rng isnt even that bad if you just dont go for greedy enhancements.

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Problem is some people started this by saying they would gift and now its main stream. not that i care ill keep working on getting alot of silver and just put up preorders and snipe what i need.

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if you are not willing to put in the work.. Even if its rng.. Then u dont deserve a top tier weapon.

 

Rng isnt even that bad if you just dont go for greedy enhancements.

No, if u have bad RNG luck ur 100 percent screwed, no matter how hard u try ur screwed.

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SAD

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SAD

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Typical douche and rl dweeb.

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lol, thoses stuff was bound to happen.

BDO is so rotten because of somes setting and initial cash shop greed 9_9

 

Fun thing, i suppose nothing is going to be changed, or they are just going to remove the gifting without even try to cure the base illness

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Another one of these threads lol >.>

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