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Pets are overall real cancer, specially T4s.


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im happy with 3x t1 and 1 t3

not gonna spend money on some casino bullshit.

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I'm not geared enough to slide through Pila Ku like a hot knife through butter but I've experienced some of this and understand it but at the same time it seems like a minmax fix if you're going that fast. Maybe it's because cats are pretty quick at picking up loot, but even when I'm at Sausans where I melt through packs of mobs, I can't say I leave much loot behind. Perhaps that's different at other places in Valencia but I'd find it odd to think that one group of tightly packed mobs is any different than another.

Another point is that maybe essentially teleporting around a zone and picking up loot instantly isn't a necessity, but rather should be viewed as a lucky draw.

If I am at sausans unless I stand around and wait even with my pets a lot gets left behind.
But my point is that all these gear upgrades will be worth nothing unless you got pets that can deal with it, getting the same amount as you got at 160 AP at 200AP for example(just randomly throwing numbers out there), makes all those gear upgrades you might have worked hard for not actually feel rewarding at all, but that's my point of view.

I do ofcourse agree this is highly P2W. But I'll stay by mine and say it's pretty mandatory, I had such a huge increase in general. At pirates for example there was a flat 30% increase of bandana's when they buffed the T4 pets to pick up faster and have a longer range.

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The last time I bought pets I leveled them (hawks) to level 10 and bred them. I got a T3 pet. So I purchased another set and got the same results. So now I have two level 10 T3 pets and I bred them and got a -----ing T3 pet. I'll never again drop another penny on this scam. Someone gifted me a hawk and I actually got my T4. But I learned that RNG with real money is the same as gambling. They should have to register with the gaming commission or something. There's gotta be rules against it.

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Not true at all, Dog at T4 is at 2.5, all T4's are at 2.5, and then they pick up a lot faster(they run to the mobs faster) and have a lot longer range than any T1-T3

Just going from the normal T4's to the buffed T4's gave me around 30% more loot, not even joking.

Normal T4? Buffed T4? Are there differences between T4s?

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money GIF

 

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At lower gear levels you can easily just go with T1-T3, you wont kill fast enough for T4's to be efficient. But I would say they are near mandatory when you start clearing way too fast for your pets to pick up everything and you start leaving too much loot behind.

I have 3 t3 falcon and near lvl 61 530 gs zerker , farming most of time gazah where are a lot drops and dont need pick by muself a lot whit 3 t3 falcon+t2 penguin

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Personally I feel a T3 pet levelled to max should be a guaranteed T4. It's a purchased item so RNG is quite harsh and in some countries actually counts as a gambling function which is illegal in a game.

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I don't mind the normal system that you've gotta put just a tiny bit of money into the game to get pets that loots for you, it's convenient. But @#&*! are T4s pet impossible to get, they're a huge money sink. Not only are they REAL useful, they are REALLY expensive. 

I've fused 2x T3s together and have gotten 1x T3 every single time. That is 25$ each try that goes directly to the trash.  I've done it 3 times and still didn't get a single T4. I've had my dose, this is retarded. I don't mind putting a couple dollar in the game, hell, I wouldn't mind putting 40-80$ a month if that's the only thing I play, but this right here is ridiculous. This is not Black Gamble Online, it's an MMORPG.

You got exactly what you thought you were going to get. Just keep adding more money to the pot dewd and feed them new car funds bruh.

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"you've gotta put just a tiny bit of money into the game"

"it's convenient"

" they're a huge money sink"

"Not only are they REAL useful, they are REALLY expensive"

 

thankfully they're not mandatory and this game aint p2w.

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I have 3 t3 falcon and near lvl 61 530 gs zerker , farming most of time gazah where are a lot drops and dont need pick by muself a lot whit 3 t3 falcon+t2 penguin

Dude I have a T4 and a T3 along with two T1s and I still have to stop and pick up gear or stop and wait.
 

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There's no point wasting cash on T4 flying pets.

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But I learned that RNG with real money is the same as gambling. They should have to register with the gaming commission or something. There's gotta be rules against it.

+1.

But all f2p mmos are based on that. Thats why i generally prefer p2p games.

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This is overall a real over reactive post, specially the title.

Dude I have a T4 and a T3 along with two T1s and I still have to stop and pick up gear or stop and wait.
 

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Dude maybe if you didn't get that t4 and instead had 4 t3s you wouldn't have that issue

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There are only a few areas in the game that T4 pets are even useful and they are newb areas.

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Personally I feel a T3 pet levelled to max should be a guaranteed T4. It's a purchased item so RNG is quite harsh and in some countries actually counts as a gambling function which is illegal in a game.

Nah. Gambling is only restricted/regulated if you were forced to roll the dice after a term/lifetime, if you were enticed by an unreasonably large but near impossible payout (there's no Jackpots in the game, there's no offer of 100 T4's from one lucky roll of the dice to entice you into the game), or stand a chance of finding yourself completely broke and unwhole. But you're not. You know that you're going to get "a result". You're trading 2 for one. There's no "Breed Failed" outcome, so you always have 1 something in return. Otherwise you're welcome to keep what you paid for. ie.. you paid for two T1 pets, you didn't pay for a T2+ pet. You're welcome to keep the T1 pets (your property) that you paid for for as long as you wish to keep them. If you decide to throw them away on the toss of the dice, well then that's all on you.

Now if there was a mechanic that could leave you with Zero pets after a breed... then yeah, that'd break some gambling laws. But that's not the case here.

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I don't mind the normal system that you've gotta put just a tiny bit of money into the game to get pets that loots for you, it's convenient. But @#&*! are T4s pet impossible to get, they're a huge money sink. Not only are they REAL useful, they are REALLY expensive. 

I've fused 2x T3s together and have gotten 1x T3 every single time. That is 25$ each try that goes directly to the trash.  I've done it 3 times and still didn't get a single T4. I've had my dose, this is retarded. I don't mind putting a couple dollar in the game, hell, I wouldn't mind putting 40-80$ a month if that's the only thing I play, but this right here is ridiculous. This is not Black Gamble Online, it's an MMORPG.

did you quit tho ?

And then people defend this shit saying Bug Desert isn't p2w. These mmo companies should be taxed as gambling.

how is having 4 x tier4 pets pay2win 

plx explain.

i dont remember pets attacking people in pvp ?

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did you quit tho ?

how is having 4 x tier4 pets pay2win 
plx explain.

i dont remember pets attacking people in pvp ?

Cuz apparently the P2W term has been expanded to include "faster advancement". Which of course is a load of bull. 

 

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2 penguins -> T2, get another penguin, finally exchange -> T3, nope, got another T2

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Nah. Gambling is only restricted/regulated if you were forced to roll the dice after a term/lifetime, if you were enticed by an unreasonably large but near impossible payout (there's no Jackpots in the game, there's no offer of 100 T4's from one lucky roll of the dice to entice you into the game), or stand a chance of finding yourself completely broke and unwhole. But you're not. You know that you're going to get "a result". You're trading 2 for one. There's no "Breed Failed" outcome, so you always have 1 something in return. Otherwise you're welcome to keep what you paid for. ie.. you paid for two T1 pets, you didn't pay for a T2+ pet. You're welcome to keep the T1 pets (your property) that you paid for for as long as you wish to keep them. If you decide to throw them away on the toss of the dice, well then that's all on you.

Now if there was a mechanic that could leave you with Zero pets after a breed... then yeah, that'd break some gambling laws. But that's not the case here.

Bruh, do you know the definition of gambling??  I'll help you out..

gam·ble
ˈɡambəl/
verb
gerund or present participle: gambling
  1. 1.
    play games of chance for money; bet.
    "she was fond of gambling on cards and horses"
     
     
  2. 2.
    take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
    "the British could only gamble that something would turn up"
     

     

     

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Bruh, do you know the definition of gambling??  I'll help you out..

gam·ble
ˈɡambəl/
verb
gerund or present participle: gambling
  1. 1.
    play games of chance for money; bet.
    "she was fond of gambling on cards and horses"
     
     
  2. 2.
    take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
    "the British could only gamble that something would turn up"
     

     

     

Yeah, sorry no. Yeah, you can quote a dictionary example of the definition of gambling. And you'd be correct. However the definition of Gambling isn't the issue here. What's at issue is the implementation.  There's fair and regulated gambling, and there's fixed/rigged gambling. BDO/PA/K isn't rigging the gambling. Everybody has the same odds. The terms and logistics are simple and straightforward. It's the players that don't have a friggin clue.

In any case... If you buy two pets. Choose to breed them. Knowing full well that you'll only get one in return and that you're trading 2 in for 1. That's not rigged gambling. You're definitely going to get a pet in return. It just might not be of a quality you want. Too bad, so sad. Boo friggin hoo. You never get a "breed failed, you lost both pets, and no pet in return" result. You knew up front that you were tossing the dice or a coin. Why piss and moan when you called heads and the coin comes up tails? Win or lose, you STILL get the one pet as a result, which was all you were guaranteed. Don't wanna lose? Don't play! That simple.

 

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I have 4 t4 pets.

Cuz apparently the P2W term has been expanded to include "faster advancement". Which of course is a load of bull. 

 

^ I like this guy.

i dont remember pets attacking people in pvp ?

this made me spit my sodie pop.

 

 

btw. 4 t4 pets still can't keep up with my clearspeed.
Just so y'all knew.

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Yeah, sorry no. Yeah, you can quote a dictionary example of the definition of gambling. And you'd be correct. However the definition of Gambling isn't the issue here. What's at issue is the implementation.  There's fair and regulated gambling, and there's fixed/rigged gambling. BDO/PA/K isn't rigging the gambling. Everybody has the same odds. The terms and logistics are simple and straightforward. It's the players that don't have a friggin clue.

In any case... If you buy two pets. Choose to breed them. Knowing full well that you'll only get one in return and that you're trading 2 in for 1. That's not rigged gambling. You're definitely going to get a pet in return. It just might not be of a quality you want. Too bad, so sad. Boo friggin hoo. You never get a "breed failed, you lost both pets, and no pet in return" result. You knew up front that you were tossing the dice or a coin. Why piss and moan when you called heads and the coin comes up tails? Win or lose, you STILL get the one pet as a result, which was all you were guaranteed. Don't wanna lose? Don't play! That simple.

 

No one is saying it's rigged....  We're saying it IS gambling.  There's no denying it.  You don't HAVE to go in a casino throw your money at blackjack, but it's still defined as gambling and regulated.  If your pet's tier doesn't go up you LOST money.  That is an objective fact.  Quit arguing the facts...  If you wanna say "don't want to gamble? Then don't gamble", fine.  But don't sit there and say that it isn't gambling, because it is.

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Um just sticking with my 4 tier 1 pets.no way am I paying real money for RNG. personally I don't mind my pets not picking up all the loot, let's me grind longer before I have to dump weight.

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"you've gotta put just a tiny bit of money into the game"

"it's convenient"

" they're a huge money sink"

"Not only are they REAL useful, they are REALLY expensive"

 

thankfully they're not mandatory and this game aint p2w.

man, i wonder how many times people have to say "it's not p2w."

i hear it for each of the vast amount of items, boosts, benefits, and safeties that people are able to buy with cash. you can only say "it's not p2w!!!" so many times before the very fact that you have to say it for so many things shows that it is, in fact, p2w

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man, i wonder how many times people have to say "it's not p2w."

i hear it for each of the vast amount of items, boosts, benefits, and safeties that people are able to buy with cash. you can only say "it's not p2w!!!" so many times before the very fact that you have to say it for so many things shows that it is, in fact, p2w

Faulty logic is faulty...  I'll show you how.

Man, I wonder how many times people have to say "it's p2w."

I hear it for each and every item in the cash shop, and all you people do is say "it's p2w!!!"  How long before you realize that the very fact that you have to say it soooo much proves that it is, in fact, NOT p2w.

See??  I can do it too.

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