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This is totally a different issue. Can you not see? We're talking about hackers not scammers. People who will send you pearls at first( REAL ) for it and prove themselves as legit buyers.

The point is that the pearls can be real, but that doesn't make them legit buyers.

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Alright look. You're confusing what they actually meant with another issue. The issue here is that my items that I gained were removed and to justify their action they sent me an e-mail stating how the dude didn't use legitimate methods to gift me the pearls which is totally NOT MY PROBLEM. 

Receiving stolen good, even digital, IS your problem. Does it matter if you knew or not that the stereo you bought was stolen? No, you dont get it, nor do you get your money back. Pearl gifitng is sketchy at best, 

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Receipt of stolen goods is all well and good but most countries will recompense the "victim" of such scams via compensation schemes. I would think the very least Kkao could do would be to return the T8 horse which was sold with good intentions (as long as they can verify such an item was placed after pearl items were gifted).

 

also, name and shame this guy. What a bogglin.

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 Secondly, not everyone is honest and people will try to scam you! We strongly urge you not to arrange such a deal unless you are willing to take the risk of losing all of the items involved.

Additionally, anybody caught scamming other players, will have their accounts suspended and all gains removed. This could include item deletion or even downgrading your gear.

Items and/or pearls will not be restored to the gifting player.

 

You saw that part yes? "Risk of losing ALL of the items involved." You lost all of the items involved by risking the deal, it is pretty cut and dry to me.

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 Secondly, not everyone is honest and people will try to scam you! We strongly urge you not to arrange such a deal unless you are willing to take the risk of losing all of the items involved.

Additionally, anybody caught scamming other players, will have their accounts suspended and all gains removed. This could include item deletion or even downgrading your gear.

Items and/or pearls will not be restored to the gifting player.

 

You saw that part yes? "Risk of losing ALL of the items involved." You lost all of the items involved by risking the deal, it is pretty cut and dry to me.

Using the proceeds of hacking/cashbacking is a bit different than just deciding not to do the pearl trade after an item is listed, no?

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 Secondly, not everyone is honest and people will try to scam you! We strongly urge you not to arrange such a deal unless you are willing to take the risk of losing all of the items involved.

Additionally, anybody caught scamming other players, will have their accounts suspended and all gains removed. This could include item deletion or even downgrading your gear.

Items and/or pearls will not be restored to the gifting player.

 

You saw that part yes? "Risk of losing ALL of the items involved." You lost all of the items involved by risking the deal, it is pretty cut and dry to me.

You DO NOT understand. You're confuse, but to answer your statement I WAS AWARE OF SUCH RISK, AND I TOOK THE CHANCE. If this was a normal ''scam'' like you people claim I wouldn't made this thread nor claim to get my items back however that wasn't the -----ing case. This literally another -----ing thing.

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Ok

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If you buy a stolen car you know you don't get any money back right?

cars can't just be spawned with no cost by the person who's taking it away from you

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WORKING AS INTENDED

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You DO NOT understand. You're confuse, but to answer your statement I WAS AWARE OF SUCH RISK, AND I TOOK THE CHANCE. 

I'm glad we're all in agreement about that, and I'm sorry that the chance you took led to you losing your stuff.

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I'm glad we're all in agreement about that, and I'm sorry that the chance you took led to you losing your stuff.

Then again you're confusing one thing with another. How many times do I have to say that everything went alright until today that I found out he was hacking(Thanks to kakao e-mail) and kakao took my stuff??? These people seems to not get it. geez.

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WTF IM TRIGGERED. I LITERALLY MADE A DEAL WITH A PERSON AND NOW YOU JUST SEND ME AN E-MAIL SAYING THE DUDE SENT IT BY USING SOME HACKING OR WHATEVER THAT WAS AND YOU REMOVE THE ITEMS HE SENT ME? LOOK. I. DO. NOT. HAVE THE ITEM I EXCHANGED FOR HIS PEARLS. IT'S GONE, WHETHER HE HACKED OR NOT THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM, I JUST WANT WHAT I TRADED IT FOR  IT BACK. . I GAVE TO HIM SO I DESERVE TO HAVE WHAT I TRADED IT FOR OR THE GIFT BACKS.

GIVE ME MY DAMN T8 HORSE BACK OR THE GIFT ITEMS. I WORKED FOR THAT T8 HARD. YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME. YOU DONT GET T8'S EASILY, DO YOU??

Don't you think it is fair to give me what I traded it for back; The T8? Let's take a look a some facts:

There are only around 80 t8s in NA that has around 50k players   my bad wrong number, IT WAS: 1.8M PLAYERS

See what I did there kakao? I used reasoning to tell you that the chances of getting a T8 is RARE; what do I mean by this??? THAT THIS IS A HUGE LOSS FOR ME.

So there is a reason why doing this is a bad idea like getting scam on. I wouldn't be surprise if this becomes more of a common practice seriously it's funny though.

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You DO NOT understand. You're confuse, but to answer your statement I WAS AWARE OF SUCH RISK, AND I TOOK THE CHANCE. If this was a normal ''scam'' like you people claim I wouldn't made this thread nor claim to get my items back however that wasn't the -----ing case. This literally another -----ing thing.

You got caught up in a "scam."  Just because you decided it was not a "normal" scam, doesn't mean their clearly stated rules don't apply.  They simply said if there is a scam, everything goes.  Coming into a mmo with stolen/hacked/duped stuff, and then trading/selling/giving to other players is a scam.  Period.

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You got caught up in a "scam."  Just because you decided it was not a "normal" scam, doesn't mean their clearly stated rules don't apply.  They simply said if there is a scam, everything goes.  Coming into a mmo with stolen/hacked/duped stuff, and then trading/selling/giving to other players is a scam.  Period.

Don't try to act smart when you clearly barely know the issue. Go bring your nonsense and logic to somewhere else. Period.

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Not sure why they cant reverse the horse transaction 

 

making a deal with a cc scammer or hacker should not be part of the risk weather its a supported transaction or not, they have some sort of responcibility to keep their services clean of hacks and scams

 

and if this stuff does go through, it should come out of their pocket, not ours 

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making a deal with a cc scammer or hacker should not be part of the risk weather its a supported transaction or not, they have some sort of responcibility to keep their services clean of hacks and scams

You know how they used to solve this problem? They didn't allow pearl gifting. Problem solved!

and if this stuff does go through, it should come out of their pocket, not ours 

I bet they think the exact same thing.

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Send pearl first before you list the t8, what a dumb ass lol.

 

People who dont are usually scammers, although i have went first once and disnt get scammed but that was cuz the buyer sounds like he have no problem with pearls.

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You DO NOT understand. You're confuse, but to answer your statement I WAS AWARE OF SUCH RISK, AND I TOOK THE CHANCE. If this was a normal ''scam'' like you people claim I wouldn't made this thread nor claim to get my items back however that wasn't the -----ing case. This literally another -----ing thing.

Just because you didnt know *ALL* the risks, doesnt change the fact that you participated in an unsupported activity.  

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Keep us posted on the progress of staff support. Making a forum like this puts them in the spotlight in which they can no liker shoulder off using poor excuse to not solve the issue. One thing they could do would be to delete the thread, but that will for sure cause more problems. Let us know how they will handle the support ticket.

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Just because you didnt know *ALL* the risks, doesnt change the fact that you participated in an unsupported activity.  

That's IS NOT A RISK that you be take into account, EVEN THE GM THEMSELVES didn't know of such thing. Please consider your argument.

Send pearl first before you list the t8, what a dumb ass lol.

 

People who dont are usually scammers, although i have went first once and disnt get scammed but that was cuz the buyer sounds like he have no problem with pearls.

you're totally off-topic. You dont even know the actual issue, if you have nothing to contribute then don't comment. Thanks.

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That's IS NOT A RISK that you be take into account, EVEN THE GM THEMSELVES didn't know of such thing. Please consider your argument.

http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/127357-gifting-trade-deals/

Perhaps you should re-read this.  No where in there does it say that there is only one method of scamming.  In fact, when posing an example, it would imply that there is more than one.  The fact that it is unknown again doesnt change anything.  That is how scammers succeed, but staying ahead of those trying to catch them. 

Again, its an unsupported transaction.  Take it as a lesson learned. 

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http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/127357-gifting-trade-deals/

Perhaps you should re-read this.  No where in there does it say that there is only one method of scamming.  In fact, when posing an example, it would imply that there is more than one.  The fact that it is unknown again doesnt change anything.  That is how scammers succeed, but staying ahead of those trying to catch them. 

Again, its an unsupported transaction.  Take it as a lesson learned. 

You don't seem to understand.  First of all, THIS WASN'T A SCAM. The dude gave me the pearls and he got what he wanted. HOWEVER, the pearls or gifts WERE REMOVED BY KAKAO and the other dude got BANNED because he wasn't using a proper method. Does this sound like a scam when we both got what we wanted? I THINK NOT. I REPEAT: THAT IS NOT SCAMMING. This is the last time I explain myself to dumbasses. here's a little tip for ya from google:

 

scam
skam/
noun
informal
 
  1. 1.
    a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
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You don't seem to understand.  First of all, THIS WASN'T A SCAM. The dude gave me the pearls and he got what he wanted. HOWEVER, the pearls or gifts WERE REMOVED BY KAKAO and the other dude got BANNED because he wasn't using a proper method. Does this sound like a scam when we both got what we wanted? I THINK NOT. I REPEAT: THAT IS NOT SCAMMING. This is the last time I explain myself to dumbasses. here's a little tip for ya from google:

 

scam
skam/
noun
informal
 
  1. 1.
    a dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Secondly, not everyone is honest and people will try to scam you! We strongly urge you not to arrange such a deal unless you are willing to take the risk of losing all of the items involved.

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Have to chime in, the other dude got banned for....Not scamming? Everything he did was perfectly proper and within all of the rules? If not, then yes part of the transaction was fraudulent and in that case they are clear, no one gets anything, neither back, refunded or replaced.

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