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Have to chime in, the other dude got banned for....Not scamming? Everything he did was perfectly proper and within all of the rules? If not, then yes part of the transaction was fraudulent and in that case they are clear, no one gets anything, neither back, refunded or replaced.

Yes, that's right, the only thing that he got pearls or he gifted them in an unusual way, or how they mentioned it ''didn't use legitimate method''

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get rekt. you wanna play balls but lost, now you blame the game.

that's like I wanna tet that ogre with 300 stacks, knowing the fact that there still might be a chance of it blowing up.

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What did we learn?

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Send pearl first before you list the t8, what a dumb ass lol.

 

People who dont are usually scammers, although i have went first once and disnt get scammed but that was cuz the buyer sounds like he have no problem with pearls.

If you can´t read, go back to School, your that far of topic its incredible you found the Reply Button.

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cars can't just be spawned with no cost by the person who's taking it away from you

Makes no difference. Lesson learned.

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What did we learn?

Makes no difference. Lesson learned.

The only lesson to learn in here is to not trust kakao/daum, if that's not what you see then you should learn how to read better. At this point I can say that 70% of the people in this forum don't read/don't know how to. Read more before you jump off the boat.

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anyway 80 t8 in NA must is a wrong number, our guild in NA have 20+ tier 8 (there is one dude with 14 tier 8)

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TIME TO RIOT!

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Well this sucks but from Kakaos stand point you could eventually make a fake account ... get it to 56 use stolen credit cards or what ever to fuel your "main" account with free perl items. (not saying that you did)

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The only lesson to learn in here is to not trust kakao/daum, if that's not what you see then you should learn how to read better. At this point I can say that 70% of the people in this forum don't read/don't know how to. Read more before you jump off the boat.

yeah. the real world is gonna eat you up and spit you out.

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You don't seem to understand.  First of all, THIS WASN'T A SCAM. The dude gave me the pearls and he got what he wanted. HOWEVER, the pearls or gifts WERE REMOVED BY KAKAO and the other dude got BANNED because he wasn't using a proper method. Does this sound like a scam when we both got what we wanted? I THINK NOT. I REPEAT: THAT IS NOT SCAMMING. This is the last time I explain myself to dumbasses. here's a little tip for ya from google:

 

scam
skam/
noun
informal
 
  1. 1.
    a dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Exactly!  It was a scam.  That's why he got banned and you lost the items.  Submit a ticket and see if they will give you the horse back.  You didn't get what you wanted or you would still have it.  You did want legit items didn't you?  What you got wasn't legit and you got scammed out of your horse.

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The only lesson to learn in here is to not trust kakao/daum, if that's not what you see then you should learn how to read better. At this point I can say that 70% of the people in this forum don't read/don't know how to. Read more before you jump off the boat.

I think everybody who've replied to this thread actually have read, and understand exactly what's going on. Unfortunately, you just don't seem to grasp the concept that you took a chance (even admitted so), got burned, and want your items back. Despite Kakao/PA making it abundantly clear where they stand on the issue. You received goods that weren't eligible to be sent to you, so Kakao/PA took those goods back. Yet you keep insisting that you lost a T8 in the deal, which is incorrect. You SOLD a T8 on the horse market, and you received the silver from the horse market purchase. That's the only method of legal transaction for player to player trades in BDO. The gifted pearl items in question are not legal tender in player-to-player trades, and they've even made a very public statement explaining what would happen.

I dunno how you can say the lesson is "to not trust kakao/daum". Seems to me they did exactly what they told everyone they would do in such a situation. Sounds like a trustworthy trait to me.

Here's a summary of how everything ended... 

You sold a T8 horse on the horse market. You got the silver. So you're not actually out anything, nor are you less than whole, as you received market value for the horse. Kakao/PA/Daum got their stolen goods back. You're whole, and Kakao/PA/Daum is whole, and a thief was caught. You're just upset (and I can kinda understand your emotional reaction, but not the reasoning) that when all is said and done, you didn't get what you were hoping to get.

 

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Greedy players asking for pearls hopefully this happens to more people so they can disable this blatant cash grab feature... But they won't for a moment I honestly thought they cared about the community lol

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If you buy a stolen car you know you don't get any money back right?

Although it may be hard and varies from case to case you DO get your money back when you're scammed like that, providing all the responsible parties are accounted for and due process is observed. The problem usually lies precisely in finding the people to get the money back from. Also, you don't get the money while it's "evidence". Nor does the car owner get the car back until released by judicial order.

 

Now, moving on to the case at hand. If I understand correctly the OP "sold" a horse, while getting an "offer" of pearls. That offer was later on cancelled by the administrators (let's call them that at a lack of better term I can't find right now) and the horse was not returned.
The way I see it they consider that the transaction was concluded via the sale, meaning silvers, which is the process implemented in the game. And in that regard the OP can not ask for the horse back unless they have taken away the silver he got from the transaction, which I think they haven't meaning revert the whole sale.
What they did was a paralel action, reverting the gift of pearls, and in that the OP has no saying and only the donator can complain about the pearls he gifted being returned.
If I'm not interpreting anything wrong, the conclusion (although I can understand the OP's frustration) is that he sold the horse for silver and that's the transaction. The remaining terms of the "deal" he made with the other player are not condoned nor included in the game design.

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and this my friends is why gifting used to be disabled...

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Its gifting pearls not trading for pearls. If used as intended, if you gift something you dont expect anything in return. Players take high risks when engaging in such trade including gifting pearls bought via stolen credit crads that is most probably the OP case. You should not have posted the horse on market.

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WTF IM TRIGGERED. I LITERALLY MADE A DEAL WITH A PERSON AND NOW YOU JUST SEND ME AN E-MAIL SAYING THE DUDE SENT IT BY USING SOME HACKING OR WHATEVER THAT WAS AND YOU REMOVE THE ITEMS HE SENT ME? LOOK. I. DO. NOT. HAVE THE ITEM I EXCHANGED FOR HIS PEARLS. IT'S GONE, WHETHER HE HACKED OR NOT THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM, I JUST WANT WHAT I TRADED IT FOR  IT BACK. . I GAVE TO HIM SO I DESERVE TO HAVE WHAT I TRADED IT FOR OR THE GIFT BACKS.

GIVE ME MY DAMN T8 HORSE BACK OR THE GIFT ITEMS. I WORKED FOR THAT T8 HARD. YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME. YOU DONT GET T8'S EASILY, DO YOU??

Don't you think it is fair to give me what I traded it for back; The T8? Let's take a look a some facts:

There are only around 80 t8s in NA that has around 50k players   my bad wrong number, IT WAS: 1.8M PLAYERS

See what I did there kakao? I used reasoning to tell you that the chances of getting a T8 is RARE; what do I mean by this??? THAT THIS IS A HUGE LOSS FOR ME.

NO, I DID NOT GET SCAMMED THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE STOP WITH THE NONSENSE. little explain of what happened: The deal was successful, I got what I wanted and he probably got what he wanted too; however, the dude used gifting method kakao didn't like which ended up him getting banned and kakao taking everything away that was sent to me(When I had nothing to do with the issue).

*Excuse my language but I have my reasons to get mad for.

Why am i not a tiny little bit sorry for this...

A greed person got rekt by a scam... thats funny.

 

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you got rekt hard mate, pearl trading is stupid and easy to scamm and you were just one of the victims. Don't blame kakao for you losing the items bought with those pearls if they were from refunded purchase or whatever. You sold your T8 for ing silver thats all there is tokakao rest is your agreement with the other person and if the other person stole the money then its not their -----ing problem and you won't get it.

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natural selection is fun

A name + shame would fix everything but even then its easy to tell if ones a scammer.
I have done 7 trades so far with pearl items and my clients are happy, which reminds me.

wtb panty models to pose in my home, will pay in pearls

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You have to be a moron to trade things for pearls and this is common knowledge. If you were foolish enough to trade pearls for something in game, that's no ones elses fault but yours. Move on and stop trading things for pearls simple.

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What a drama. A scamer milked him, now he is crying. Why should BDO do something and give him any stuff back?

And posting, and yelling, and cursing I think I would have a reason more to do nothing.

When someone steals a wallet out of your Benz you dont walk up to Mercedes asking your wallet back.

Just do not trade with others, buy from the pearl shop or market. Save thing. I block all pearl traders anyhow, never ever see them anymore.

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Morale of this story stop pearl trading.

Lol!  Indeed . . . why is it that I find myself feeling no sympathy for this person?

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Tfw when you realize some people actually believe there's only 85 T8's on that server.

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I feel this is a scam against Daum and not against you. You participated in a trade and you received your items and thus were not scammed. Daum was scammed either through hacking or claiming cashback etc and acted by removing the goods from you. They'll be able to tell the items were gifted to you, but possibly never checked the scammers account to see what big items they bought as of late and thus may be unaware it was an arranged transaction. As such they wouldn't be aware you sold the item for pearls successfully and are unaware of how being scammed themselves has affected your gameplay. I don't think a forum post will solve anything but I'd be putting in and waiting on a ticket response, with a full explanation of the circumstances, trying your best not to sound aggressive and without including things like "wtf, give me my shit back." At least until they've read and responded. From their perspective you could be the same person, gifting dodgy items to another account in the hopes that the sending accounts gets banned but the other account gets to keep all the now free items. They don't know unless they talk to you personally via a ticket. You might find they understand this is the case and sort it out however having an attitude right from the get go won't help. If they don't then you could be understandably upset. Ticket times vary though, every mmo I've played has threads started about "3 weeks no ticket reply, worst customer service in any game blah blah" etc and BDO has proven to be no different. It might take a bit of time so I'd just get on with playing the game in the meantime and avoid creating several tickets, as again this doesn't actually help with anything.

For the people saying you don't get reimbursed for buying a stolen item etc, well take online fraud. Someone steals your bank account and buys something. Once you've reported this, the person who sold him the item still gets to keep the money from your stolen account and the bank reimburses you for the fraud. It's just basic good customer service. It would be a different scenario entirely if you lifted money out and gave money directly to another person for goods which they said they'd leave somewhere public like under a park bench (eg. marketplace), and then they never actually did or vice versa. You've made the mistake yourself in this situation. 

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The reason I fought to keep pearl trading out of the horse/racing discord. I didn't want ppl I know going through this. But this can happen. Wether you trade in private or like he said... in discord... it's a bunch of you may get screwed. I was told I couldn't police ppl. All I have ever done was try to keep ppl I know from something like this. 

I sure wish this hadnt happened to you 😯

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