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Im kinda wondering what would have happened if OP had spent the pearls right away on AM and used those to repair a weapon and then sold that weapon on the market and the buyer of that weapon continued to enchant it and... you get the idea. 

Would they even be able to rollback stuff like that?

 

OT: I kinda feel like OP should be compensated somehow for this since its usualy "buyers beware" and not "sellers beware".

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If you buy a stolen car you know you don't get any money back right?

Actually you do. Insurance will cover every single bit (as long you can prove it) and will chase the person who stole it until they have the money back.

What a wonderful country the Netherlands is.

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Sadly it can go either way. Some ppl will post a horse and then the person getting the horse will say they never got it and say they aren't paying anything even though they actually did get it. I knew someone this happened to and that was the first hearing of it in the horse community and soon after the GMs posted about item trading for pearls. There's no way to prove if someone got the item to trust that situation. It's easy to gift pearls but not to get the item. 

Best bet don't do it. Trade with a guild mate you trust, family, and friends you trust. Everyone will come to you as a friend to get that item they want. But you never know who they really are.

I'll get off my soap box now. 

Actually you do. Insurance will cover every single bit (as long you can prove it) and will chase the person who stole it until they have the money back.

What a wonderful country the Netherlands is.

they will in America too. If you can prove it AND have insurance😉

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It was a scam whether you want to admit it or not. The other party likely knew exactly what they were doing, whether it be by a stolen payment method or an excuse for a charge-back. Kakao didn't really get the money, so of course they would remove the items. You got the silver, so you got what the horse was worth to the game.

The sooner they turn off gifting, the better. =/

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A "WTS stuff for pearls" stupido got what he deserves. Scam the shit out of those guys!!!!! Either sell it for the silver it's ment for or don't sell it at all. That pearl gifting stupidity needs to go asap so we have less ppl whining about getting scammed on the forum. 

Bildergebnis für you got pwned dude

 

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Not sure why they cant reverse the horse transaction 

 

making a deal with a cc scammer or hacker should not be part of the risk weather its a supported transaction or not, they have some sort of responcibility to keep their services clean of hacks and scams

 

and if this stuff does go through, it should come out of their pocket, not ours 

but it got out of their pocket. the guy got the silver, they only removed the "gifts". 

 

WTF IM TRIGGERED.

it was about time to happen plus you kind of asked for it (link below). your gifts are gone. you got the silver which is what was intended to be given to you. 

http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/135644-the-new-drama/&do=findComment&comment=1877204 

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Im kinda wondering what would have happened if OP had spent the pearls right away on AM and used those to repair a weapon and then sold that weapon on the market and the buyer of that weapon continued to enchant it and... you get the idea. 

Would they even be able to rollback stuff like that?

 

OT: I kinda feel like OP should be compensated somehow for this since its usualy "buyers beware" and not "sellers beware".

It goes both ways.  It is not encourage to do in the first place.  If they punish bad buyers, then sellers will feel like they should do it more.  This sends a nice clear message that there is high risk on both sides.  Not just one.

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It goes both ways.  It is not encourage to do in the first place.  If they punish bad buyers, then sellers will feel like they should do it more.  This sends a nice clear message that there is high risk on both sides.  Not just one.

Its basicly RMT which im strongly against but since Kakao encourages such activities and if they state that ppl do theese kinds of trades at their own risk then they should not butt in and remove items from any1 who has completed a trade successfully.

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Its basicly RMT which im strongly against but since Kakao encourages such activities and if they state that ppl do theese kinds of trades at their own risk then they should not butt in and remove items from any1 who has completed a trade successfully.

I think they should not intervene at all let people learn what happens when they try these trades.  It will be the best deterrent against people offering things for pearls when they get scammed and Kakao doesn't help them out.

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Its basicly RMT which im strongly against but since Kakao encourages such activities and if they state that ppl do theese kinds of trades at their own risk then they should not butt in and remove items from any1 who has completed a trade successfully.

If Kakao was charged back or something in this instance, they removed the item(s) because the money that paid for that item, or items, is no longer there. Allowing this pearl trading to go on is so they can make money off people buying pearls to get items, but that doesn't mean they won't take action if they get screwed. OP got caught in the crossfire, but at least he/she got the silver for the horse.

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lol well deserved. "wts for pearls" gone wrong, too much greed. makes me smile.

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OP-
WTS T8 HORSE LVL 30 ALL SKILLS 20K PEARLS 
SCAMMER-
OK
scammer send fraud 20k pearls . OP lists horse , scammer buy horse then charge back or whatever , OP loses pearls AND horse.
scammer gets the horse for the amount of silver it's intended to sell for.
OP get the silvers the horse sold for.
OP gets on the forum to cry he got scammed ( which he did not , in game items shouln'd be sold for pearls )

get rekt. don't try to pay 2 win.
you got served and deserved it.

lol well deserved. "wts for pearls" gone wrong, too much greed. makes me smile.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A "WTS stuff for pearls" stupido got what he deserves. Scam the shit out of those guys!!!!! Either sell it for the silver it's ment for or don't sell it at all. That pearl gifting stupidity needs to go asap so we have less ppl whining about getting scammed on the forum. 

Bildergebnis für you got pwned dude

 

 

and this my friends is why gifting used to be disabled...

 

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OP-
WTS T8 HORSE LVL 30 ALL SKILLS 20K PEARLS 
SCAMMER-
OK
scammer send fraud 20k pearls . OP lists horse , scammer buy horse then charge back or whatever , OP loses pearls AND horse.
scammer gets the horse for the amount of silver it's intended to sell for.
OP get the silvers the horse sold for.
OP gets on the forum to cry he got scammed ( which he did not , in game items shouln'd be sold for pearls )

get rekt. don't try to pay 2 win.
you got served and deserved it.

 

 

 

Most likely the account that was used to buy and gift the pearls got banned also due to the chargeback being a violation of EULA. However if this guy was an experienced scammer he probably used a burner account. 

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Most likely the account that was used to buy and gift the pearls got banned also due to the chargeback being a violation of EULA. However if this guy was an experienced scammer he probably used a burner account. 

and ?

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Most likely the account that was used to buy and gift the pearls got banned also due to the chargeback being a violation of EULA. However if this guy was an experienced scammer he probably used a burner account. 

And if thats the case its very likely that he sold off the horse to his main acc asap. There is just no way for us to know if he sits there with his newly aquired T8 horse laughing at this very thread atm.

 

What I dont get however is all the "get rekt" comments here from certain ppl that sound completely different in the various p2w threads that pop up. Heres the thing: selling pearl items on the market is just as much RMT as trading horses for pearls via gifting with the exception of not having a smooth ingame system set up especially for that transaction.

and ?

See above...

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And if thats the case its very likely that he sold off the horse to his main acc asap. There is just no way for us to know if he sits there with his newly aquired T8 horse laughing at this very thread atm.

 

What I dont get however is all the "get rekt" comments here from certain ppl that sound completely different in the various p2w threads that pop up. Heres the thing: selling pearl items on the market is just as much RMT as trading horses for pearls via gifting with the exception of not having a smooth ingame system set up especially for that transaction.

See above...

I even mentioned that he probably used a burner account meaning there was no need to do anything with the horse - he just bought and gifted the pearls on the burner account and bought the horse on the main account. 

Selling pearl items on the MP is different in that it's a supported method and doesn't have any room for scammers. The seller of a horse/dandy/whatever is just as likely to be a scammer as the buyer. You could negotiate with 15 people to send you 500 peals up front and another 2000 pearls if they win to buy your T8 horse, and none of those 15 would be the wiser. 

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And if thats the case its very likely that he sold off the horse to his main acc asap. There is just no way for us to know if he sits there with his newly aquired T8 horse laughing at this very thread atm.

 

What I dont get however is all the "get rekt" comments here from certain ppl that sound completely different in the various p2w threads that pop up. Heres the thing: selling pearl items on the market is just as much RMT as trading horses for pearls via gifting with the exception of not having a smooth ingame system set up especially for that transaction.

See above...

none of this would happen if they disabled gifting.

OP would have sold or not the horse for the silvers he actualy got.
this is QQing from people who tries to sell stuff for pearls which = pay2win.

I'll say again, get rekt by greediness.

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I even mentioned that he probably used a burner account meaning there was no need to do anything with the horse - he just bought and gifted the pearls on the burner account and bought the horse on the main account. 

Selling pearl items on the MP is different in that it's a supported method and doesn't have any room for scammers. The seller of a horse/dandy/whatever is just as likely to be a scammer as the buyer. You could negotiate with 15 people to send you 500 peals up front and another 2000 pearls if they win to buy your T8 horse, and none of those 15 would be the wiser. 

Good point.

 

I was merely pointing out that both methods are similar from a real-money-for-ingame-items perspective.

none of this would happen if they disabled gifting.
OP would have sold or not the horse for the silvers he actualy got.
this is QQing from people who tries to sell stuff for pearls which = pay2win.

I'll say again, get rekt by greediness.

Well we all know who it is that actually make money from gifting thats why Im confused when a lot of the "rekt" comments seem to be directed towards OP.

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this is what you deserve for trading ingame items for pearls :)

i hope they will also ban u

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