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Patch Notes - March 22nd 2017

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It's more the fact that we seem to get shit KR has had for ages and sometimes we get shit before they do in KR.

For example, KR has had red helper circles for bosses since before Kutum came out (and ironically, they're a massive help for Kutum, not so much for the other bosses). This is nowhere in sight in our version.

A couple of weeks back we got a mainhand buff they'd gotten in KR the previous week.

Not long before that an event started earlier in EU/NA than it did in KR.

So basically, they're throwing shit at us at complete random and it's messy cause of it.

We are, for example, missing a pretty big optimization patch they had in KR some 6 months ago? You would think our publisher would emphasize how important it would be to get this through to us ASAP since performance is one of the top concerns out playerbase has, but it's a complete no-show.

I get that we get their left overs. (I was like.. what the heck is this pepsi tatoo?) But we can't really expect them to implement new items just for us as they try to catch us up to KR so that they can release all new items and patches at the same time for all servers. It's unrealistic to expect NA/EU to be where KR is when we are what.. a year behind them in launch. I hope that they will, in the future, not give us any korean items at all. But until we are caught up, I will just let it slide and see how things are then. I got Cherry Blossom Earrings at Christmas time and was like.. what the heck is this? and now I'm glad I have them for this Spring Event.

Red helper circles.. well all I can say to that is things take time. They cannot implement an entire KR software program in NA and EU and expect it to run perfectly for us.. small steps building up helps things run smoother. With issues that are much easier to fix as patches are released in time.

Ok so what's the problem? that we are getting stuff later then KR or earlier? Why can't we appreciate that they are implementing things and as quickly as they can?!

I don't believe its random. You have to stop and think.. what's easier on everyone's computer and easier to implement without risking too many errors/issues? The fact they are releasing these things is a step forward. Trust the software engineers. BDO is a bad ass game so they must be doing a hell of a lot right.

Again.. trust that they know what they are doing when releasing new content in a game that has a lot of bugs and issues that they are dealing with as quickly as they can. We get a lot of free stuff without a monthly gaming fee. Have a little faith. These professionals know more about what they are doing than we do.

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I get that we get their left overs. (I was like.. what the heck is this pepsi tatoo?) But we can't really expect them to implement new items just for us as they try to catch us up to KR so that they can release all new items and patches at the same time for all servers. It's unrealistic to expect NA/EU to be where KR is when we are what.. a year behind them in launch.

Content wise we're literally 1 patch behind them.

Feature wise with quality of life stuff, who knows how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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and again, someone target the wrong group. If you want to blame someone for this, it's NOT Kakao, it's Pearl Abyss.

Also, please do keep in mînd CM are employed to serves a punching ball between you and Kakao, so please do not be harsh on them, they have no influence on what the game will have in the future.

Well done on misreading the nuance behind the post...

It doesn't matter who is to blame, as there is no blaming occurring. While I understand your passion to seem like you're standing up for the CM's or Kakao or whomever, I'm afraid your enthusiasm is misplaced. And also, you are incorrect to assume that the CM's are employed to serve as punching bags between the players and the company. They do, however, represent the company and are, in simple terms, there to liaise and communicate back and forth any issues that may arise. If you, and anyone else are content with the Pearl Shop/Costumes then that's fine. But by the same token, it doesn't seem proper for you or people like "Yasfan" to comment on those who aren't as satisfied with what we see. If you read the post again, you'll find that my post provides an opportunity for the CM to make transparent what drives the reasoning behind the Cash Shop as it currently exists.

Rather than leaving to rumors and speculation as to whether or not the player designed costumes/outfits in KR will appear on our NA server, it would be nice to hear what they have planned. If you don't care so much about this topic, then once again, you may carry on as usual. But certainly don't try to knock on someone who is genuinely interested in the matter. It would be nice, for once, to not see people stand on false pretenses as though they're trying to stick up for something. Looking at you, @yasfan. You must have skimmed through the post, otherwise you would have noticed the suggestion accounts for an alternative possibility of both releasing the same costume as last year's as well as a newly designed one. The point being, it would be nice to see some effort being placed into designing new outfits for us to waste our money on. But rather than misunderstanding the company by thinking that no effort was being made in either implementing new outfit designs exclusive to NA or even providing us with ones that are in KR, if the BDO team were to come out and say they do NOT in fact have staff allocated for the purposes of new designs, then that would at least be understandable. The problem is, we're not informed enough..... and I don't think a little transparency is too much to ask.

If Pearl Abyss came out and said they don't have the budget to design new outfits for us, I'd be okay with that. Who am I to question their finances? ^_^

I'm not particularly impressed with the likes of those that insist on being satisfied with only what they're given. But then again, not everybody dreams in color....

Do you ever go to the grocery store and scream at them for having the same old holiday candies every year?

Just wondering.

 

Haha, perhaps. But I don't really like sweets.

But even Willy Wonka has the good sense of changing things up every now and then. Wouldn't you say?

It's nice to see some of us have the luxury to sit behind our monitors and wonder about such frivolous things. Maybe Pearl Abyss will give you a cookie for being their loyal defender. It's got to be worth at least a Blackstone or two as a reward...

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Content wise we're literally 1 patch behind them.

Feature wise with quality of life stuff, who knows how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Are you taking into account all the glitches, errors, bugs and issues that are still current? Do you really want them to add more without first fixing the remaining issues? So many people cry "Stop giving us new content and fix the problems first" and then so many others cry "Give us what WE want and give it to us now" Seriously?

Are you even taking into account all the work and countless hours that have gone into this game from the beginning days before it was even launched on any server at all?  I can pretty much guarantee you've never worked that much in your life so far. Yet you think you have all the answers to everything? Really?!

Why are you hell bent on defaming them? In believing the worst in them? You who did not create the game nor put any work into it yet you reap the benefits and still play then have the nerve to complain when they release a new patch and give free stuff away. You are not being forced to play, or forced to buy anything.

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Are you taking into account all the glitches, errors, bugs and issues that are still current? Do you really want them to add more without first fixing the remaining issues? So many people cry "Stop giving us new content and fix the problems first" and then so many others cry "Give us what WE want and give it to us now" Seriously?

Are you even taking into account all the work and countless hours that have gone into this game from the beginning days before it was even launched on any server at all?  I can pretty much guarantee you've never worked that much in your life so far. Yet you think you have all the answers to everything? Really?!

Why are you hell bent on defaming them? In believing the worst in them? You who did not create the game nor put any work into it yet you reap the benefits and still play then have the nerve to complain when they release a new patch and give free stuff away. You are not being forced to play, or forced to buy anything.

A lot of the issues would be fixed by bringing over the fixes that they've already applied in KR. Such as, for example, the optimization patch they had in Korea ages ago that we still have no sight of.

The only issues unique to our version has been caused by bad localization. Everything else already has fixes, we just aren't getting them.

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A lot of the issues would be fixed by bringing over the fixes that they've already applied in KR. Such as, for example, the optimization patch they had in Korea ages ago that we still have no sight of.

The only issues unique to our version has been caused by bad localization. Everything else already has fixes, we just aren't getting them.

You really have no idea what you are talking about. Do you think our internet here in the states or even in EU can come close to the internet they have over there? HELL NO. They are dealing with crappy internet here in NA/EU that they have to make adjustments for.

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You really have no idea what you are talking about. Do you think our internet here in the states or even in EU can come close to the internet they have over there? HELL NO. They are dealing with crappy internet here in NA/EU that they have to make adjustments for.

What in the actual ----- does our internet speeds have to do with the speed at which we're getting updates to the game?

Or the horrible state of the servers? Or ANYTHING said in this thread? 

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What in the actual ----- does our internet speeds have to do with the speed at which we're getting updates to the game?

Or the horrible state of the servers? Or ANYTHING said in this thread? 

Let me try to explain it this way... You have a personal computer made back in 1978. You are trying to run BDO 2016 on this computer. Think you can?

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Let me try to explain it this way... You have a personal computer made back in 1978. You are trying to run BDO 2016 on this computer. Think you can?

For someone calling themselves anything computer related your ignorance is.. shocking.

My computer, your computer, the computer BDO is hosted on, none of this has anything to do with internet infrastructure, and it's frankly shocking that you'd think so.

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Let me try to explain it this way... You have a personal computer made back in 1978. You are trying to run BDO 2016 on this computer. Think you can?

Hell yeah, bad graphic optimization is hardly related to internet speed. Tell me more.

@CM_Aethon @CM_Serenity

As I said in every topics:

PC Specs

  • GTX 1070
  • i7 6700K
  • 16gb RAM DDR4 3200
  • Game installed in SSD Samsung Evo 850
  • 300/300Mbps FFTH with 31ms latency with the BDO Server


Cant go to kill karanda because desync + graphic lag + body blocking + tons of stuff in ground making me unable to "run".
My skills casts few seconds later than I did. The skill appear, the animation appear but the damage is 0.5~s later.
Knockdown someone and hit it .... but wow IS NOT THERE! is 1 meter away to where is supposed to be.

As many of us, we paid for the valuepack for example, every single month, which is like a monthly suscription. And every end-game place is the worst game experience I've had. 
Nodewars with:

  • Invisible hawtcha
  • Invisible flametowers
  • Ruberbanding
  • People which is invisible and you MUST watch the radar inorder to run or hit someone (yes, because the game is really bad optimized and people load few seconds later)
  • Freezing gaphics (few times, but still there)
  • Graphic lag
  • Pop-in (few times I got stuck because a fence or fame loaded over my horse LOL)

Same for Redbattlefield
Same in Raidbosses plus wasting of Gems and Eliontears if you do main.

Yesterday was a perfect example of really bad infrastructure where people got a tons of D/C unable to relog again because the launcher didnt work.
Today I was D/C like few guildmates, my electrical company is proud of you.
@CM_Aethon @CM_Serenity

Crowded servers which allow more people to enter but the lag is insane.

I have the feeling you're waiting for the casuals or newbies to leave the game and things related to server load go back to the normality, but patience is finite and you're taking ours.

What the hell do you want? a x3 GTX 1080 Ti + 2 XEON CPU + optical fiber attached direct to the server?

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why do i have a delay until my spells starts their cds ? it's like 0.5 seconds before the actual cd start counting...

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What the hell do you want? a x3 GTX 1080 Ti + 2 XEON CPU + optical fiber corded direct to the server?

Dont see your point with an optical fiber attached to a potatoe (server), nothing would change...

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Dont see your point with an optical fiber attached to a potatoe (server), nothing would change...

THAT is the point!!!! :D

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Those of us who weren't around for it last year are thankful for it.

I believe that idea should not exclude an option to bring somehting new...

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For someone calling themselves anything computer related your ignorance is.. shocking.

My computer, your computer, the computer BDO is hosted on, none of this has anything to do with internet infrastructure, and it's frankly shocking that you'd think so.

Your stupidity is shocking! This game was created in Korea where their internet is freakin mind blowing. Bring that same game over to NA/EU where our internet cannot even compare and you will have issues.. Like the lag and the crashing. Take your same computer and go over there and play. You will see a huge difference.

Hell yeah, bad graphic optimization is hardly related to internet speed. Tell me more.

@CM_Aethon @CM_Serenity

As I said in every topics:

PC Specs

  • GTX 1070
  • i7 6700K
  • 16gb RAM DDR4 3200
  • Game installed in SSD Samsung Evo 850
  • 300/300Mbps FFTH with 31ms latency with the BDO Server


Cant go to kill karanda because desync + graphic lag + body blocking + tons of stuff in ground making me unable to "run".
My skills casts few seconds later than I did. The skill appear, the animation appear but the damage is 0.5~s later.
Knockdown someone and hit it .... but wow IS NOT THERE! is 1 meter away to where is supposed to be.

As many of us, we paid for the valuepack for example, every single month, which is like a monthly suscription. And every end-game place is the worst game experience I've had. 
Nodewars with:

  • Invisible hawtcha
  • Invisible flametowers
  • Ruberbanding
  • People which is invisible and you MUST watch the radar inorder to run or hit someone (yes, because the game is really bad optimized and people load few seconds later)
  • Freezing gaphics (few times, but still there)
  • Graphic lag
  • Pop-in (few times I got stuck because a fence or fame loaded over my horse LOL)

Same for Redbattlefield
Same in Raidbosses plus wasting of Gems and Eliontears if you do main.

Yesterday was a perfect example of really bad infrastructure where people got a tons of D/C unable to relog again because the launcher didnt work.
Today I was D/C like few guildmates, my electrical company is proud of you.
@CM_Aethon @CM_Serenity

Crowded servers which allow more people to enter but the lag is insane.

I have the feeling you're waiting for the casuals or newbies to leave the game and things related to server load go back to the normality, but patience is finite and you're taking ours.

What the hell do you want? a x3 GTX 1080 Ti + 2 XEON CPU + optical fiber attached direct to the server?

Actually NO. The speed of a pc back in 1978 would not even be able to install the game. If speed was never an issue we'd all have the same internet no matter where we live.

My point.. My computer is not as good as yours at all, yet I never have a problem killing Karanda and I am able to run all over the place. I never have an issue killing any boss no matter how crowded it is or how much snow and so on is going on.

You don't have to pay for the valuepack. You chose to therefore it is not a subscription.

Everything you are listing does involve speed. If you cannot keep up then you will run into lag and freezing and loading issues. Again this game was created in Korea where speed isn't an issue like it is here. Yesterday I faced no problems what so ever. Today again no problems what so ever and many people have a better pc then I do. My friends get annoyed because I do not have the problems they do and yet their pc is by far greater than mine. How is it i do not crash and lag and have loading issues like you and many others then? I live in an area where my speed is greater than most.

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Why? Why is this garbage 'feature' even in the game?

So what if i want to buy 100 blackstones that are 1 silver more than the 45 single listed ones on the market? What does it matter?

Please get rid of this and stop forcing us to buy the lowest price. On high demand items like memory frags which get listed all the time its a pain.

At least give us a range like the bottom 20% of prices or something....

The marketplace has been adjusted so that items, even those in the bidding phase, will be checked with the lowest priced item of the same type.

  • If an item of the same type with the lowest price (or within lower price range) is in the bidding phase, you will only be able to purchase/bid that lowest-priced version of the item.

  • If an item of the same type is available for a lower price and is not in the bidding phase, you will only be able to purchase that lowest-priced version of the item

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There is a increase in de-sync, rubber band, dc, deja-vus. If you see a black cat doing the same thing twice, changes has been made.

 

 

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Your stupidity is shocking! This game was created in Korea where their internet is freakin mind blowing. Bring that same game over to NA/EU where our internet cannot even compare and you will have issues.. Like the lag and the crashing. Take your same computer and go over there and play. You will see a huge difference.

Actually NO. The speed of a pc back in 1978 would not even be able to install the game. If speed was never an issue we'd all have the same internet no matter where we live.

My point.. My computer is not as good as yours at all, yet I never have a problem killing Karanda and I am able to run all over the place. I never have an issue killing any boss no matter how crowded it is or how much snow and so on is going on.

You don't have to pay for the valuepack. You chose to therefore it is not a subscription.

Everything you are listing does involve speed. If you cannot keep up then you will run into lag and freezing and loading issues. Again this game was created in Korea where speed isn't an issue like it is here. Yesterday I faced no problems what so ever. Today again no problems what so ever and many people have a better pc then I do. My friends get annoyed because I do not have the problems they do and yet their pc is by far greater than mine. How is it i do not crash and lag and have loading issues like you and many others then? I live in an area where my speed is greater than most.

Since I said "which is like a monthly suscription" and no "is a monthly subscription"...

If you're the kind of people which play games at 10-20fps or with BIG fps drops, I am happy for you :) And my speed is greater than most :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Avg: South Korea: 26.7Mb/s

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Mine: 35.6Mb/s

You have no idea how servers works. This is the first game where I've faced this issues in years as MMORPG player, with worse internet speed and PC specs..

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Your stupidity is shocking! This game was created in Korea where their internet is freakin mind blowing. Bring that same game over to NA/EU where our internet cannot even compare and you will have issues.. Like the lag and the crashing. Take your same computer and go over there and play. You will see a huge difference.

Okay, we'll pretend I'm stupid.

Explain to me, very slowly and very precisely  how internet infrastructure affects the rate of updates we're getting for BDO, and how it affects the order in which we're getting said updates.

Treat me like a toddler.

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Are you kidding me with this patch? All it looks like is a please give us your money for old re-hashed stuff. Not even outfit for DK to go with event is how little work they put into this. I say stop buying Pearl Shop items till they actually start looking to what the player base is saying. A company that made $100 million profit and can't even put money into fixing server issues doesn't deserve your money.Classes are broke, gave us lack luster Magoria, servers are laggy and dumping people all the time, events lately have shown the same "we'll just throw something out their to distract them from the issues." mentality, and really this game is starting to feel like any other where give us your money cause we just don't feel like trying anymore. Fix the damn game and get it moving forward again. Fix the damn server and make them playable again. Till then I think my wallet has become overcrowded, overheated, desynced, and BDO is disconnected from it.

this guy gets it. +1000000000000

ive been faithful over a year now and the server issues have been a constant since launch. In fact they are now worse. To hear there is a stabilization patch that wasn't implemented is kinda sad news. Cuz for me it's the only problem with this game and development seems to be ignoring it completely. I don't even do world bosses because I get disconnected as soon as 100 players suddenly spawn in from their previous channel kill. First entering a boss fight is like 3 fps til it "finds itself". Or disconnects. It wasn't like this 2-3 months ago.

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this guy gets it. +1000000000000

ive been faithful over a year now and the server issues have been a constant since launch. In fact they are now worse. To hear there is a stabilization patch that wasn't implemented is kinda sad news. Cuz for me it's the only problem with this game and development seems to be ignoring it completely. I don't even do world bosses because I get disconnected as soon as 100 players suddenly spawn in from their previous channel kill. First entering a boss fight is like 3 fps til it "finds itself". Or disconnects. It wasn't like this 2-3 months ago.

I think you misunderstood.

The optimization patch doesn't do anything for desyncs cause that's not physically possible, only better servers can do this.

It DOES increase performance client side though.

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It would be nice, for once, to not see people stand on false pretenses as though they're trying to stick up for something. Looking at you, @yasfan. You must have skimmed through the post, otherwise you would have noticed the suggestion accounts for an alternative possibility of both releasing the same costume as last year's as well as a newly designed one. The point being, it would be nice to see some effort being placed into designing new outfits for us to waste our money on. But rather than misunderstanding the company by thinking that no effort was being made in either implementing new outfit designs exclusive to NA or even providing us with ones that are in KR, if the BDO team were to come out and say they do NOT in fact have staff allocated for the purposes of new designs, then that would at least be understandable. The problem is, we're not informed enough..... and I don't think a little transparency is too much to ask.

If Pearl Abyss came out and said they don't have the budget to design new outfits for us, I'd be okay with that. Who am I to question their finances? ^_^

I'm not particularly impressed with the likes of those that insist on being satisfied with only what they're given. But then again, not everybody dreams in color....

Haha, perhaps. But I don't really like sweets.

But even Willy Wonka has the good sense of changing things up every now and then. Wouldn't you say?

It would be equally nice to see people make requests rather than demands, since they don't actually have the power to force others to meet their demands.

It's nice to see some of us have the luxury to sit behind our monitors and wonder about such frivolous things. 

I'm not the one demanding more transparency in how their allocate their costume design resources, bro. That's a mighty big glass house you're throwing those rocks from.

Maybe Pearl Abyss will give you a cookie for being their loyal defender. It's got to be worth at least a Blackstone or two as a reward...

Neither Pearl Abyss nor Kakao is perfect and I'm perfectly willing to let my views be known when I think that they're making a mistake. 

I just understand that constructive criticism and requests are more likely to be well-received than insults and demands, I don't assume that every decision they make is driven by shameless greed and an insatiable desire to unfairly gouge their customers, and I don't expect them to drop everything and come running when I snap my fingers.

You might want to try it some time.

 

 

 

 

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It would be nice if they would fix the freeze up and logged off when you first enter BDO and everything pops up, then when you get logged off can't click any the buttons to log in from the log off screen, and have to restart all over again, but it keeps happening, am lucky to even fully log in!!

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