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Looks like Wizard is still the most op in bdo- and perhaps of any game ive played

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 You can't even compete in a group of 3v3 if the other guy has a wiz and you don't. protected area and tele heals are enough with combined AOE spam to straight up brute force anything. Better still- throw a wizard on a good horse and youve got a highly mobile M1 Abrams with super duper future teleport technology (desync) who becomes harder to kill than a berserker. 

Wouldn't be so bad, but while being required in small groups- you can't even dream of fighting large battles with a wizard disadvantage. Old guild i ran had 2 wizards- just a major lack of wizards but we had everything else. We'd constantly lose guild fights without any chance of winning whatsoever due to meteor showers and heal spams. Once we found some more wizards we started winning- and we were taking any wizard, since the CC and heal is still fantastic with virtually no gear.

This class needs a total overhaul, you cant keep nerfing berserkers, warriors, and blades claiming they fill a "niche" when you blatantly have a class that fills every niche.

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Why are you making a new thread when there are two similiar ones? Also when complaining you would be far better off being specifc and offering solutions than to be a laughingstock with words 'super duper, 'in any game ive played', 'cant even dream of', 'needs total overhaul'. It screams that you dont know how the class work, let alone your own.

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Why are you making a new thread when there are two similiar ones daily since nodewars started and it got worse since they received awakening?

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Eh, we're going to need multiple threads daily about it because apparently these issues aren't communicated to the balance team because the community managers or whoever listens to us and tells this to the balancers aren't listening. You literally do not need any other class apart from wizards, like why would guilds let in assassins, or tanks when wizards pretty much do the job they're supposed to but better? wizard can just one shot aoe which is better than any other assassin except maybe sorc, or a dp stacking wizard who just uses protected area and becomes pretty much invincible.

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Eh, we're going to need multiple threads daily about it because apparently these issues aren't communicated to the balance team because the community managers or whoever listens to us and tells this to the balancers aren't listening. You literally do not need any other class apart from wizards, like why would guilds let in assassins, or tanks when wizards pretty much do the job they're supposed to but better? wizard can just one shot aoe which is better than any other assassin except maybe sorc, or a dp stacking wizard who just uses protected area and becomes pretty much invincible.

perhaps wiz is just the fps friendliest class, in sieges my pc is a toaster but that one button aoe is a lifesaver. 

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Protection needs to be gone, so is that 100% nuke.

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Protection needs to be gone, so is that 100% nuke.

the thing is, you need protected area in siege.

they just need to tone down the damage so it matches up with pre awakening so they can only fill in the utility/support role, but keep the damage for pve (increase pvp damage drop scale).

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hahha someone get rekt by a wizard at pirates :D

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 You can't even compete in a group of 3v3 if the other guy has a wiz and you don't. protected area and tele heals are enough with combined AOE spam to straight up brute force anything. Better still- throw a wizard on a good horse and youve got a highly mobile M1 Abrams with super duper future teleport technology (desync) who becomes harder to kill than a berserker. 

Wouldn't be so bad, but while being required in small groups- you can't even dream of fighting large battles with a wizard disadvantage. Old guild i ran had 2 wizards- just a major lack of wizards but we had everything else. We'd constantly lose guild fights without any chance of winning whatsoever due to meteor showers and heal spams. Once we found some more wizards we started winning- and we were taking any wizard, since the CC and heal is still fantastic with virtually no gear.

This class needs a total overhaul, you cant keep nerfing berserkers, warriors, and blades claiming they fill a "niche" when you blatantly have a class that fills every niche.

Clearly you didn't play Tera on the Brawler release patch. Super mobile tank class designed to hold monster aggro through sheer damage output. Allowed 1 battle ressurection per 5 minutes, permanent frontal block attacking, 75% max HP recovery ability on a 40 second cooldown, 4 different types of CC on basic attacks...

It was amazing and stupid at the same time.

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apples are apples and potatoes are potatoes!

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apples are apples and potatoes are potatoes!

You don't say! What gives you that idea? O.o

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You don't say! What gives you that idea? O.o

i like potatoes 

 

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i like potatoes 

 

 

This is bad, very bad. There is no medicine that cures people from liking potatoes. :D But I bet you do not want to be cured from this, right? ;)

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Remove protection area from wizard/witch and add im to Valkyrie with a 12 seconde duration for 2m cooldown <3

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Remove protection area from wizard/witch and add im to Valkyrie with a 12 seconde duration for 2m cooldown <3

That would make much sense, that is why it will not happen.

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Isn't it only pearl abyss that can touch the game's balance? I figured the non korean game is what it is and we have to deal with it.

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Why are you making a new thread when there are two similiar ones? 

Because this overtuned class needs attention. Perma block while walking, collision bug, insane damage while bathing in SA is too much. They excel everywhere and outshine every class  in sieges/nodewars. 

People are sick of being oneshot randomly because someone pressed shift+space --> s+f. Warrior ultimate is just meme comparing to wiz who can go 1vs7 and wipe them all. 

Still dont understand why is PA available as self buff and not classified as party buff.

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To people who say witchards aren't OP; can you explain why 9 out of 10 people you see grinding are witchards?

 

It used to be warrierks.

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Just wait until DK awakens.. We have two skills that regen health per hit. :D

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Absolute joke of balance. Class excels in support, damage and with buffs tanking. Why roll any other class when you can have it all with witch/wiz.  The post 56 population is mostly witch/wiz at this point 

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i agree as you know from the 10 threads ive posted about it by now

 

witch/wiz/(berserker) are the biggest mockery of computer gaming since the beginning of the internet

 

either nerf their damage by 2, either remove their protection (sa/blocks), either remove their supportive abilities and nerf their superbuffs (heal, prot area, sage , 3min awa buff) either increase their cds 

 

it's been over quarter of a year since this class destroyed the game

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https://clips.twitch.tv/SuperBombasticSowKappa

BDO pvp I have never seen anything so stupid

BDO pvp feels like we playing a early alpha class balance (wouldn't feel so bad if we all could just jump in and pvp!! but NO we have to grind 1 year for gear and lvl 60+)

Click click boom no skill pvp

 

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https://clips.twitch.tv/SuperBombasticSowKappa

BDO pvp I have never seen anything so stupid

BDO pvp feels like we playing a early alpha class balance (wouldn't feel so bad if we all could just jump in and pvp!! but NO we have to grind 1 year for gear and lvl 60+)

Click click boom no skill pvp

 

Tooooo be fair that guy has almost full PEN gear and level 61...

In NA, you can be pretty competetive in full TRI and level 58. It's really not THAT bad.

 

Also #nerfwitchards and #buffvalks

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Its a clown class I get grab and KD on wizard and do 40% of his hp with a full 4 skill combo while the wizard deals 50% of my hp with one aqua jail(no set up) we were both lvl  60 210 ap(acc evasion build)283dp(me) and 200 ap/289 dp(wizard) and if I dont kill the wizard in one grab he will just heal max hp.

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