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PvP 2017 Tier vote

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Hey guys,

I just want your opinion on which class is better in 1V1 and GvG situations.

If you do respond, to give a good, overall opinion, say which ARE the best, so try to give a list from best to worst, I'm really interested in your thoughts.

Example:

In my opinion

1v1:

S: Sorceress

A+: Ranger

A: Valkyrie/Warrior

B+: Witch/Wizard, Berserker, Tamer

B: Maehwa/Musa, Ninja/Kunoichi

GvG:

S: Wizard/Witch

A+: Sorceress, Warrior

A: Valkyrie, Ranger, Tamer

B+: Maehwa/Musa

B: Ninja/Kunoichi

I haven't put in the Dark Knight since I still don't have any experience fighting with her, but if you do, feel free to add her on your list.

Thanks for your reply !

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@Greelune

1v1:

Ninja > Tamer > Warrior > Witch/Wiz > Kunoichi > Berserker > Ranger > Valk > Sorc > Musa > Maehwa

 

GVG:

Wizard = Witch > Warrior = Sorc > Valk = Berserker = Ninja > Maehwa = Musa > Ranger > Tamer > Kunoichi


Same as you though I am not taking into account DK.
This is my personal view from being in a top tier guild with regular node and siege wars.

 

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@Greelune

1v1:

Ninja > Tamer > Warrior > Witch/Wiz > Kunoichi > Berserker > Ranger > Sorc > Musa > Maehwa

 

GVG:

Wizard = Witch > Warrior = Sorc > Valk = Berserker = Ninja > Maehwa = Musa > Ranger > Kunoichi


Same as you though I am not taking into account DK.
This is my personal view from being in a top tier guild with regular node and siege wars.

 

I totally agree Wizard-Witch are bosses on siege, though I didn't see you add a Valkyrie on your 1V1 list?

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I totally agree Wizard-Witch are bosses on siege, though I didn't see you add a Valkyrie on your 1V1 list?

Added it, just forgot, they are such mythical creatures ;D

I really don't get why you rank ninja so low, most 1v1 tournaments are won by them.
Anyhow you also forgot something, tamer is nowhere to be found ;D

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1v1
S: Warrior, Zerk
A: Sorc, Ranger, Witch
B: Ninja, Plum, Tamer, Wizard
C: Valk, Musa, Kuno
D: DK

Large scale:

S: Wizard
A: Witch, Zerk, Warrior, Sorc
B: Valk, Musa, Kuno. Ranger
C: Ninja, Plum, Tamer
D: DK

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1v1
S: Warrior, Zerk
A: Sorc, Ranger, Witch
B: Ninja, Plum, Tamer, Wizard
C: Valk, Musa, Kuno
D: DK

Large scale:

S: Wizard
A: Witch, Zerk, Warrior, Sorc
B: Valk, Musa, Kuno. Ranger
C: Ninja, Plum, Tamer
D: DK

This, however I'de say Plum should be B in large scale, Maehwa can be extremely useful in large fights if it's in skilled hands.

DK will be higher on the list when it's awakening is released as well, probably will be one of the best large scale classes due to its range and mobility.

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I just wonder why ppl put ranger anywhere above mid tier. Just watching the last couple of months unofficial but still quite entertaining 1v1 and 3v3 tournaments in EU and you can see how "powerful" and used rangers are. In all situations they scale nowhere above B tier at best and even that is much.

 

Top classes that perform well in any scenario are sorcs, wizzards/witches, zerks and warriors. I want to say valks as well but they are so few anyways that probably it doesn't make sense. 

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in 1v1 ranger has a very good initiation and HUGE range on their grab, and damage to kill you in .5 seconds flat. Granted they are heavily reliant on their grab, but their grab is very reliable. This makes them a very good 1v1 class. 

Valks are overall... okay. They are a balanced class surrounded by unbalanced classes.  IMO valk is a C grade on 1v1 but not by a lot, they are almost B, but valk is MUCH more gear reliant than other 1v1 classes and in the hardest class to be good at, tied with maybe ninja. 
520+ gear score + low ping + good player = god teir class. But the same can be said for every other class in the game, generally with lower gear and not ping reliant.
Class is difficult to master and has a lot of weird bugs. It's hard to judge valk for those reasons. 

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1v1
S: Warrior, Zerk
A: Sorc, Ranger, Witch
B: Ninja, Plum, Tamer, Wizard
C: Valk, Musa, Kuno
D: DK

Large scale:

S: Wizard
A: Witch, Zerk, Warrior, Sorc
B: Valk, Musa, Kuno. Ranger
C: Ninja, Plum, Tamer
D: DK

Agree with this, as an "average" geared Witch/Wiz and having playing a Warrior with the same GS but more DP, I would say in one v ones though my War was way less geared I had a great time fighting against almost any class. As Witch/Wizard unless I have a ridiculous gap between my gear and theirs I'm more on the 40/60 losing side of things. However during node war, I feel so useful and great, especially when other classes go in and CC and I just drop AOE's on top. Unless you're a ridiculously overpowered Witch/Wizard they are mostly just hanging out behinds the scenes waiting for that party in the middle during node wars.

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@Greelune

1v1:

Ninja > Tamer > Warrior > Witch/Wiz > Kunoichi > Berserker > Ranger > Valk > Sorc > Musa > Maehwa

 

GVG:

Wizard = Witch > Warrior = Sorc > Valk = Berserker = Ninja > Maehwa = Musa > Ranger > Tamer > Kunoichi


Same as you though I am not taking into account DK.
This is my personal view from being in a top tier guild with regular node and siege wars.

 

In 1v1 Maehwa >> Musa. They simply have more SA/dmg and crit bonuses on their skills, also higher dmg scaling.

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Thing what cause some class is good for mass PvP is AoE DPS, the same thing that affect grind speed. And gear affect 1v1. So make split in 1v1 and mass PvP is pointless - mass PvP classes are in most cases still better in 1v1 because of gear.

S: Wizard, Witch
A: Zerk, Warrior, Sorc, Ranger
B:
C:
D: DK, Valk, Blader, Kuno, Ninja, Plum, Tamer

 

Where is obvious S&A = god tier, D = shit tier.

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This, however I'de say Plum should be B in large scale, Maehwa can be extremely useful in large fights if it's in skilled hands.

DK will be higher on the list when it's awakening is released as well, probably will be one of the best large scale classes due to its range and mobility.

This is very true, both musa and maehwa are extremely useful in largescale, and maehwas can easily delete people in the backlines of the enemyforce before engages even start.
Having a nice team of them is essential in mass pvp, for scouting, breaking traps and general disruption.

1v1
S: Warrior, Zerk
A: Sorc, Ranger, Witch
B: Ninja, Plum, Tamer, Wizard
C: Valk, Musa, Kuno
D: DK

Large scale:

S: Wizard
A: Witch, Zerk, Warrior, Sorc
B: Valk, Musa, Kuno. Ranger
C: Ninja, Plum, Tamer
D: DK

As someone who is a main Kuno, having us on a higher tier for largescale than 1v1 is very very wrong, there is almost nada we can do in largescale anymore, while I frolic in 1v1s and 1vX for the most part.

In 1v1 Maehwa >> Musa. They simply have more SA/dmg and crit bonuses on their skills, also higher dmg scaling.

I somewhat do agree, but again this is personal experience, and I find maehwas abilities more easy to predict and avoid. And their ult is easy to dodge, no doubt though they hurt when things land. While a Musa pops his E buff and runs around like a god for those 30secs.
But overall I'd probably put them equal for 1v1. But perhaps a little higher on GvG due to usefulness.

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1v1

S: Warrior, Wizard, Witch

A: Berserker, Sorceress, Ranger

B: Musa, Maehwa, Tamer, Ninja

C: Valkyrie, Kunoichi

GvG

S: Warrior, Wizard, Witch

A: Berserker, Sorceress, Ranger

B: Musa, Maehwa, Valkyrie

C: Tamer, Ninja, Kunoichi

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The ----- is the point in this? its all subjective and a waste of time.

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The ----- is the point in this? its all subjective and a waste of time.

1v1

S: Blader

GvG

S: Ninja

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1v1 hands down zerker and warrior

GVG wizard/witch

The ----- is the point in this? its all subjective and a waste of time.

Lol..really?  It's just someone wanting to hear some thoughts, subjective is why the conversation is there...chill

in 1v1 ranger has a very good initiation and HUGE range on their grab, and damage to kill you in .5 seconds flat. Granted they are heavily reliant on their grab, but their grab is very reliable. This makes them a very good 1v1 class. 

Valks are overall... okay. They are a balanced class surrounded by unbalanced classes.  IMO valk is a C grade on 1v1 but not by a lot, they are almost B, but valk is MUCH more gear reliant than other 1v1 classes and in the hardest class to be good at, tied with maybe ninja. 
520+ gear score + low ping + good player = god teir class. But the same can be said for every other class in the game, generally with lower gear and not ping reliant.
Class is difficult to master and has a lot of weird bugs. It's hard to judge valk for those reasons. 

You nailed in on gear,...valks struggle early on, but with high level, extremely high level gear valks are beasts.

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1v1 hands down zerker and warrior

GVG wizard/witch

Lol..really?  It's just someone wanting to hear some thoughts, subjective is why the conversation is there...chill

Pointing out that this is a waste of time doesn't imply that im angry :) 

No one explains why they have put certain classes into certain tiers, this isnt a conversation, this is just peoples lists based of personal opinion. If you give me reasons for each placement then we can argue points and have a discussion. Currently, this thread is a waste of time :) 

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Tamers are a class that excel in 1v1 with their absurd burst, so that means they're better suited to roaming and picking off things in gvg. Classes such as musa, maewha, ninja and kuno are similar to them, however stealth classes and sorcs excel at sniping rebuilds. Classes such as warrior, valk and giant are there to peel for the rangers and wiz/witches, while the later are there to sprinkle and protect (having this skill alone is reason enough as to why wiz/witch are so valuable in gvg). I don't think any particular class is bad in a 1v1, it's just that all classes have their share of difficult match ups.

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1v1

S - Berserker | Ninja | Tamer | Witch

A - Ranger | Maewha | Sorc | Wizard

B - Warrior | Musa | Kuno | Valk

 

GvG / Node wars

S - Wizard | Witch | Warrior | Zerker

A  - Sorc | Maewha | Musa

B - Ranger | Valk | Kuno

C - Tamer | Ninja

 

I based my list not on an individual players skill. But on which classes have a better tool set.

 

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DONT SAY MUSA/MAEHWA AND NINJA/KUNO!!!!!!!!

Musa is just shit anyway

Maehwa 1v1 S , GvG A+

bc im maehwa (61)

 

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DONT SAY MUSA/MAEHWA AND NINJA/KUNO!!!!!!!!

Musa is just shit anyway

Maehwa 1v1 S , GvG A+

bc im maehwa (61)

 

bruh fite me, musa better than maehwa...

in all seriousness some classes rely on the server being good and their opponents not being desyncy as fck, large scale not gonna happen, 1v1s maybe...

 

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bruh fite me, musa better than maehwa...

in all seriousness some classes rely on the server being good and their opponents not being desyncy as fck, large scale not gonna happen, 1v1s maybe...

 

im on eu server and you? name Dolvina

many musa are reroll cause is shit

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im on eu server and you? name Dolvina

many musa are reroll cause is shit

im on eu as well, the reason many musa reroll is because most ppl who dont even play it say its bad; it really isnt, it takes effort and time to make it work.

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im on eu as well, the reason many musa reroll is because most ppl who dont even play it say its bad; it really isnt, it takes effort and time to make it work.

idc about musa's what ever just meet me today im at home around 15:00 

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lol these 1v1 tier lists with tamer/plum near the bottom............ starting to think this forum is only straight up trolls or people who don't even play rofl a good tamer/plum a long with ninja can roll like every other class pretty easily. good way to tell a decent-good tamer from a bad one is if they beat warriors or not. the oh so praised op warriors are pretty easy for a good tamer. witches/wizards are just food to anyone competent 1on1. ofc zerkers good too just because of their kit.

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