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When you thought they couldn't make the marketplace system worse

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I saw them drop below 600k to around 580k during the event. It's not "a few hours" to snipe. It takes all but 30 minutes, big deal. We have multiple relics that go up at the same time maybe 10-20. Sometimes even the full page is available for bidding. And what did I just say? When I don't feel like grinding and I want to watch anime, I do scrolls. I buy about 20 relic scrolls worth sniping them all in that time. So hard, right?  Maybe in EU but not NA, doesn't make what I say less valid. And no there is none that are "part for 700k, part for 750k and only part for around 800k." I usually get them all for the same price MAYBE I get lazy for the last 5 or so at 680k because some idiot is buying up the page because they're impatient and it boosts the min price. You have to know what time to snipe them at for less competition and even so there are tricks to get around it that raise your odds of successful chances. Good luck doing that at 6pm though and EU i guess sucks for relics. =)

We currently have 22.7k mem frags on the market right now. 


 

Do we have event right now? No? Then why you use it as argument? We talk about what we have now, not how it was... Until there will be new gathering event dont use it as argument pls... 

You snipe 100 scrolls for 650k in 30 minutes? Right... Do you know how much time i usually need to get 100 scrolls when im doing it fast and buy all i can? 15-20 minutes (7-10 minutes for first 10x party and 7-10 minutes for second 10x party)... And you want me to believe that you need only 10-15 mins more then me to buy them for cheapest price? Or you talk about 20 scroll parts now? But 20 will not save you magically 22,5m...

Man when i was talking about buying part for 650k, part for 700k, part of 750k and part for 800k i wasnt talking about you!! i was talking how ppl like me who buy them fast do it!! Pls read my posts properly... And cause a lot of our scroll parts are quite cheap too- average price we buy them is a lot lower then 800k and difference between you buying it cheap and me buying it fast isnt that big in end... Even if i buy them fast average price of my relic scroll parts is more like 740k, which means you save less then 100k on one part and for 100 scrolls (2x10 party) its less then 10m saved...

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im curious why i pre-order for the price listen as max, i wont get my item but if i pre-order for it 10% more the price i get it. Con wep stone for ex. i pre-order it at 4mil nothing, then i tried 4.5mil still nothing and yes 4.8mil but when i have it at 5mil i get pre-order complete in 10-15mins. My curiousity comes in at what happens to the 1mil extra ive been paying for them because i dont get whats left back. 

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Do we have event right now? No? Then why you use it as argument? We talk about what we have now, not how it was... Until there will be new gathering event dont use it as argument pls... 

You snipe 100 scrolls for 650k in 30 minutes? Right... Do you know how much time i usually need to get 100 scrolls when im doing it fast and buy all i can? 15-20 minutes (7-10 minutes for first 10x party and 7-10 minutes for second 10x party)... And you want me to believe that you need only 10-15 mins more then me to buy them for cheapest price? Or you talk about 20 scroll parts now? But 20 will not save you magically 22,5m...

Man when i was talking about buying part for 650k, part for 700k, part of 750k and part for 800k i wasnt talking about you!! i was talking how ppl like me who buy them fast do it!! Pls read my posts properly... And cause a lot of our scroll parts are quite cheap too- average price we buy them is a lot lower then 800k and difference between you buying it cheap and me buying it fast isnt that big in end... Even if i buy them fast average price of my relic scroll parts is more like 740k, which means you save less then 100k on one part and for 100 scrolls (2x10 party) its less then 10m saved..

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"Before our back to back event they went back up to 835k a piece.  so that's *4.5mil* extra per 5x relic scroll group wasted.[instead of it being on average 650k right now on what i buy them at] What if I feel lazy and don't want to grind and want to afk relic group and make passive good income and getting mem frags while watching anime? Well hell look at that I'd do a full 5-6 hours of relics. so 4.5 * 5" [5-6 hours of relics = 5 x Relic scroll groups] You may do them with pugs so there's your confusion right? Quick math (Before event shards avg; Stabilized) 835,000-650,000 (after event shards price what I buy them for on bid) = 185,000 
185,000 * 25(5 scrolls) = 4,625,000 * 5 (for 5 groups = 25 scrolls not 100; 5 hours is plenty of time I have FRIENDS not pugs we pvp other groups and each other and watch anime in between that's why it takes so long. Easy shit to get together.)  = 23,125,000 I SAVED from buying them all cheap on bid. When did I buy them? After each scroll group? Who said I did? What do I have inventory spaces for then?]

- me

"And bcs you are "cheap asshole" you waste few hours to snipe 100 relic scroll parts per day?[Where did i say 100 scrolls?] Also normal price right now on Eu is 800k, 4,5m/25=180k... Yea ofc you are able to snipe 100 scrolls daily for 620k price per one, seems legit... Dont remember when it was last time i saw one relic scroll part for 620k.*Explanation A*..  Sniping for some time that scrolls when you are busy in town processing is ok, but not wasting time when you are doing nothing else... And realistically you save a lot less then you think, especially since even if *you* buy[you mean everyone else and yourself,right?] scrolls fast[I don't have to buy scrolls fast they keep popping up at 650k after each bid phase], part of them are from bid for 650k, part for 700k, part for 750k and only part for around 800k..."[You're the exception not the rule for everyone else]
- idiot [you]

"I saw them drop below 600k to around 580k during the event. *Explanation A* It's not "a few hours" to snipe. It takes all but 30 minutes, big deal. We have multiple relics that go up at the same time maybe 10-20. Sometimes even the full page is available for bidding. And what did I just say? When I don't feel like grinding and I want to watch anime, I do scrolls. I buy about 20 relic scrolls worth sniping them all in that time. So hard, right?  Maybe in EU but not NA, doesn't make what I say less valid. And no there is none that are "part for 700k, part for 750k and only part for around 800k." I usually get them all for the same price MAYBE I get lazy for the last 5 or so at 680k because some idiot is buying up the page because they're impatient and it boosts the min price.[ You have to know what time to snipe them at for less competition and even so there are tricks to get around it that raise your odds of successful chances. Good luck doing that at 6pm though] and EU i guess sucks for relics. =)" 
- me

"Do we have event right now? No? Then why you use it as argument? We talk about what we have now, not how it was... Until there will be new gathering event dont use it as argument pls... "

Do we have an event? No, did they drop the prices almost 200k? Yes. Are they still 650k even though event is over? Yes. Argument is still valid because it's still ongoing prices. Just because EU is back to 800k. NOT MY PROBLEM. There's your math. Would you like some screen shots of my marketplace to see how many go up at 650k at a time? Do you want a video too of when I snipe them all in 30 min? How about I come over and bid on them for you to show you how it's done? Or maybe just come join the NA server. It seems to be more robust in the MP.

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Just because EU is back to 800k. NOT MY PROBLEM. 

Must. Resist. Joke. About. EU vs NA. "Not my problem".

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. Just because EU is back to 800k. NOT MY PROBLEM. There's your math. 

How selfish. So following your logic I can make the following statement "just because you want to save a few silver 90% of the player base has to stay frustrated with the marketplace"

Not my problem ^_^ 

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[ All Added Text So you Don't Get Confused]

"Before our back to back event they went back up to 835k a piece.  so that's *4.5mil* extra per 5x relic scroll group wasted.[instead of it being on average 650k right now on what i buy them at] What if I feel lazy and don't want to grind and want to afk relic group and make passive good income and getting mem frags while watching anime? Well hell look at that I'd do a full 5-6 hours of relics. so 4.5 * 5" [5-6 hours of relics = 5 x Relic scroll groups] You may do them with pugs so there's your confusion right? Quick math (Before event shards avg; Stabilized) 835,000-650,000 (after event shards price what I buy them for on bid) = 185,000 185,000 * 25(5 scrolls) = 4,625,000 * 5 (for 5 groups = 25 scrolls not 100; 5 hours is plenty of time I have FRIENDS not pugs we pvp other groups and each other and watch anime in between that's why it takes so long. Easy shit to get together.)  = 23,125,000 I SAVED from buying them all cheap on bid. When did I buy them? After each scroll group? Who said I did? What do I have inventory spaces for then?]
- me

"And bcs you are "cheap asshole" you waste few hours to snipe 100 relic scroll parts per day?[Where did i say 100 scrolls?] Also normal price right now on Eu is 800k, 4,5m/25=180k... Yea ofc you are able to snipe 100 scrolls daily for 620k price per one, seems legit... Dont remember when it was last time i saw one relic scroll part for 620k.*Explanation A*..  Sniping for some time that scrolls when you are busy in town processing is ok, but not wasting time when you are doing nothing else... And realistically you save a lot less then you think, especially since even if *you* buy[you mean everyone else and yourself,right?] scrolls fast[I don't have to buy scrolls fast they keep popping up at 650k after each bid phase], part of them are from bid for 650k, part for 700k, part for 750k and only part for around 800k..."[You're the exception not the rule for everyone else]
- idiot [you]

"I saw them drop below 600k to around 580k during the event. *Explanation A* It's not "a few hours" to snipe. It takes all but 30 minutes, big deal. We have multiple relics that go up at the same time maybe 10-20. Sometimes even the full page is available for bidding. And what did I just say? When I don't feel like grinding and I want to watch anime, I do scrolls. I buy about 20 relic scrolls worth sniping them all in that time. So hard, right?  Maybe in EU but not NA, doesn't make what I say less valid. And no there is none that are "part for 700k, part for 750k and only part for around 800k." I usually get them all for the same price MAYBE I get lazy for the last 5 or so at 680k because some idiot is buying up the page because they're impatient and it boosts the min price.[ You have to know what time to snipe them at for less competition and even so there are tricks to get around it that raise your odds of successful chances. Good luck doing that at 6pm though] and EU i guess sucks for relics. =)" 
- me

"Do we have event right now? No? Then why you use it as argument? We talk about what we have now, not how it was... Until there will be new gathering event dont use it as argument pls... "

Do we have an event? No, did they drop the prices almost 200k? Yes. Are they still 650k even though event is over? Yes. Argument is still valid because it's still ongoing prices. Just because EU is back to 800k. NOT MY PROBLEM. There's your math. Would you like some screen shots of my marketplace to see how many go up at 650k at a time? Do you want a video too of when I snipe them all in 30 min? How about I come over and bid on them for you to show you how it's done? Or maybe just come join the NA server. It seems to be more robust in the MP.

It's interesting because prices on relics in NA are climbing, around a week after the event ended there were only 500 shards posted.

 

Now it stays around the 4k range but get sold for max price constantly, I'm patient enough to sell my shards for max price. Since they currently sell. Hopefully the prices rise more.

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Many things in this game are so weird. I noted the same Marketplace "bug" or "weird mechanic", but i dont think its my priority to fix/change.

Just wait for the bid phase or buy at higher price as soon as the bid phase ends.

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It's interesting because prices on relics in NA are climbing, around a week after the event ended there were only 500 shards posted.

 

Now it stays around the 4k range but get sold for max price constantly, I'm patient enough to sell my shards for max price. Since they currently sell. Hopefully the prices rise more.

Now, now... Dont embarass him even more... He went as far as to start counting already... Dont tell him he has wrong numbers...

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Now, now... Dont embarass him even more... He went as far as to start counting already... Dont tell him he has wrong numbers...

Just found it interesting since I try to keep tabs on the relic market to see how it fluctuates based on day to day activity.

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Just found it interesting since I try to keep tabs on the relic market to see how it fluctuates based on day to day activity.

It fluctuates and I never deny the prices going up it's my current buy price at min price that I go for, they rise up to 6k~ on the market. At min price 641k(today's min price). I never denied it will go up eventually maybe up to 680k-700k in a couple of weeks. If you're talking about selling them during peak hours. That's a different story.

Now, now... Dont embarass him even more... He went as far as to start counting already... Dont tell him he has wrong numbers...

So no, I'm not embarrassed at all. 

Must. Resist. Joke. About. EU vs NA. "Not my problem".

How selfish. So following your logic I can make the following statement "just because you want to save a few silver 90% of the player base has to stay frustrated with the marketplace"

Not my problem ^_^ 

He gets it. You can scroll back to one of my response to another person in which I agree certain items should be removed. However, items that are spammed on the market that are always on high demand should not.

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[ All Added Text So you Don't Get Confused]

"Before our back to back event they went back up to 835k a piece.  so that's *4.5mil* extra per 5x relic scroll group wasted.[instead of it being on average 650k right now on what i buy them at] What if I feel lazy and don't want to grind and want to afk relic group and make passive good income and getting mem frags while watching anime? Well hell look at that I'd do a full 5-6 hours of relics. so 4.5 * 5" [5-6 hours of relics = 5 x Relic scroll groups] You may do them with pugs so there's your confusion right? Quick math (Before event shards avg; Stabilized) 835,000-650,000 (after event shards price what I buy them for on bid) = 185,000 185,000 * 25(5 scrolls) = 4,625,000 * 5 (for 5 groups = 25 scrolls not 100; 5 hours is plenty of time I have FRIENDS not pugs we pvp other groups and each other and watch anime in between that's why it takes so long. Easy shit to get together.)  = 23,125,000 I SAVED from buying them all cheap on bid. When did I buy them? After each scroll group? Who said I did? What do I have inventory spaces for then?]
- me

"And bcs you are "cheap asshole" you waste few hours to snipe 100 relic scroll parts per day?[Where did i say 100 scrolls?] Also normal price right now on Eu is 800k, 4,5m/25=180k... Yea ofc you are able to snipe 100 scrolls daily for 620k price per one, seems legit... Dont remember when it was last time i saw one relic scroll part for 620k.*Explanation A*..  Sniping for some time that scrolls when you are busy in town processing is ok, but not wasting time when you are doing nothing else... And realistically you save a lot less then you think, especially since even if *you* buy[you mean everyone else and yourself,right?] scrolls fast[I don't have to buy scrolls fast they keep popping up at 650k after each bid phase], part of them are from bid for 650k, part for 700k, part for 750k and only part for around 800k..."[You're the exception not the rule for everyone else]
- idiot [you]

"I saw them drop below 600k to around 580k during the event. *Explanation A* It's not "a few hours" to snipe. It takes all but 30 minutes, big deal. We have multiple relics that go up at the same time maybe 10-20. Sometimes even the full page is available for bidding. And what did I just say? When I don't feel like grinding and I want to watch anime, I do scrolls. I buy about 20 relic scrolls worth sniping them all in that time. So hard, right?  Maybe in EU but not NA, doesn't make what I say less valid. And no there is none that are "part for 700k, part for 750k and only part for around 800k." I usually get them all for the same price MAYBE I get lazy for the last 5 or so at 680k because some idiot is buying up the page because they're impatient and it boosts the min price.[ You have to know what time to snipe them at for less competition and even so there are tricks to get around it that raise your odds of successful chances. Good luck doing that at 6pm though] and EU i guess sucks for relics. =)" 
- me

"Do we have event right now? No? Then why you use it as argument? We talk about what we have now, not how it was... Until there will be new gathering event dont use it as argument pls... "

Do we have an event? No, did they drop the prices almost 200k? Yes. Are they still 650k even though event is over? Yes. Argument is still valid because it's still ongoing prices. Just because EU is back to 800k. NOT MY PROBLEM. There's your math. Would you like some screen shots of my marketplace to see how many go up at 650k at a time? Do you want a video too of when I snipe them all in 30 min? How about I come over and bid on them for you to show you how it's done? Or maybe just come join the NA server. It seems to be more robust in the MP.

Like i said its never 835k to 650k, cause even if someone buy them fast big parts of scrolls he buy are for 650k,700k,750k etc... I said you already average is way below 835k even on NA and you never save as much as you thing you are (compared to someone who buy them fast)... Even if you want to buy them all for 835k you cant, cause bid with cheaper ones pop up like every 30 sec!! Do you really think everyone is buying them for 835k and you are only one who buy for 650k? Just logged in on NA, cant even see any cheaper then 750k... 

Now you talk about of 125 scroll parts (5x5 party) instead of 100? Ok nvm... if you get them all for 650k you save around 11m at best compared to me when i buy them fast (with average 740k and looking at NA prices average i could get here would be even better!!)... And no way you can buy 125 scroll parts for 650k in just 30 minutes... I need at least 25 minutes to buy 125 scroll parts when i buy them fast... 

 

Btw when you spend time trying to snipe cheap relic parts i just earned another 1B from items i enchanted last night and sold when i wake up...

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I'd be happy if they just made it so the "goes to a bid phase" checkbox gets unticked on items that're already in quantities greater than a certain amount on the market. 

We really don't need the bid option for things like blackstones, some crafting materials, etc.

This is like the most valuable thing that has been said on the forums all year.  Thank you.

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