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More random stuff about Musa and Maehwa


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More history and RL related stuff. If you are not interested in history and RL, then there's nothing interesting here for you. Move along.

 

First I am going to talk about Musa's awakening weapon, Woldo. I'm not going to talk about Maehwa's awakening weapon because I don't know where the heck they got the idea of a wavy spear. The only weapons with wavy blades I know are Flambard, a Renaissance European weapon, and the Kris knife, which is a Philippines weapon. Kind of straying away from the original topic, but looking at the awakening weapons makes me think PA is sexist. Musa (Korea inspired character) with Woldo (Korean weapon), Ninja (Japan inspired character) with multiple Katanas (Japanese sword, but even the Japanese only used 2 max.) And then there we have Maehwa (Korea inspired character) with Kerispear (Origin unknown weird spear), and Kunoichi (Japan inspired character) with a hula hoop nicknamed chakram (People claim it's India inspired, but Chakram is a small ring shaped throwing weapon, not a hula hoop with blades.) Of course BDO is a fantasy game and PA can do whatever they want to do with their game, but when this creative freedom only occurs when it's a female character then it's a little fishy. Back to the Woldo. https://youtu.be/q55H_3otHCc This is a video of people performing the sequences written in Muyedobotongji. I tried to find a better video, but there aren't much videos of it out there. Anyway as the video shows there are a lot of spinning motions. The woldo weights 3근 14냥 (1근 is 16냥 and 1근 is approximately 600 grams so it should be 2.3 kilograms. For U.S. people who use pounds it is 5.1 pounds. DISCLAIMER: I used the conversion written on Wikipedia because I have no idea what 근 and 냥 is. So the calculations could be off.) and when the mass is mostly focused on the end of the weapon it is hard to control the motion of the weapon, so they do a lot of spinning the blade to take advantage of the momentum and make it easier to control the blade. Spin 2 win is confirmed. Totally legit, historically accurate spin2win never seen before in other games (I am joking.)

 

Next topic is the stub arrow. The Korean name of this skill is 편전 (pronounced Pyeonjeon) and well... It is a very very misleading name. Pyeonjeon is a special arrow used with a tool called 통아(tong-ah? pronounced something like that. Not pronounced like the nation Tonga.) https://youtu.be/LgmBO-TeC-8 This is a video of a random man using the 통아 to shoot a Pyeonjeon. As you can see in the video, pyeonjeon is a very short arrow and needs a special rail in order to fire it without the arrow going through your arm. Pyeonjeon is definitely a fitting skill for Musa and Maehwa, but the problem is the skill name is Pyeojeon and yet Musa and Maehwa shoots normal arrows. If PA made Musa and Maehwa use real Pyeonjeon then it would have made them much more unique than now. Ranger using a longbow and normal arrows, Musa and Maehwa using a recurve horn bow with Pyeonjeon. Makes them much more unique, but PA decided to just name it pyeonjeon and give them normal arrows. Very very disappointing.

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I'm not going to talk about Maehwa's awakening weapon because I don't know where the heck they got the idea of a wavy spear.

And then there we have Maehwa (Korea inspired character) with Kerispear (Origin unknown weird spear),

Psst, i think its a old Japenese polearm: Like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naginata

wich was the favorite weapon of a legendary Female Japenese Warrior (Nakano Takeko)

The Naginata were originally used by the Samurai class.

Samurai are also known to be good archers as well (Horn Bow).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakano_Takeko

 

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Psst, i think its a old Japenese polearm: Like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naginata

wich was the favorite weapon of a legendary Female Japenese Warrior (Nakano Takeko)

The Naginata were originally used by the Samurai class.

Samurai are also known to be good archers as well (Horn Bow).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakano_Takeko

 

The Kerispear in game has a wavy blade, which is only seen in Flambards and Kris knifes. The naginata has a curved blade, which is closer to the Woldo or the Guandao. Naginata is often viewed as a weapon used by females and many females in Japan learn using Naginata instead of the Katana because of the stereotype that exists in modern Japan, although historically males used the Naginata very often due to Naginata being a long reach pole weapon.

Also in Japan traditionally the bows are made only with wood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumi Japan is much more humid than Mongol and Korea, so horn bows were not common. The Korean horn bow uses Croaker bladder glue to keep the materials together and I am assuming other horn bows use similar material as well. The problem of croaker bladder glue is that it is sensitive to humidity and heat, and the strength of it's adhesiveness becomes weaker when exposed to too much heat and humidity, making it useless in Japan. That is why the Samurais used the Yumi. Since it is made with wood or bamboo it is more resistant to humidity so it suits the environment in Japan much more than horn bows do.

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I see you did some research xD, who knows what was in the dev. heads. Maybe they copied it from the knives just to make it look cool. 

About the bows, i have no idea all i know if the yumi is like a daikyo then its defintly not a horn bow since Daikyo are long / large long range bows.

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I see you did some research xD, who knows what was in the dev. heads. Maybe they copied it from the knives just to make it look cool. 

About the bows, i have no idea all i know if the yumi is like a daikyo then its defintly not a horn bow since Daikyo are long / large long range bows.

Yumi() means bow and Daikyu() means big bow. Since the term Yumi is used to refer bows only in japan we call the Japanese bow Yumi.

I wish I could know what the devs were thinking. First they name the character Maehwa which means nothing more than the name of the flowers of Prunus mume, then they give that character a spear with a weird wavy blade of unknown origin. I feel like the devs thought people will just play Maehwa and Kunoichi no matter what they do just because they are female characters, and they actually put effort in Musa and Ninja because they think unless they are cool nobody would play them.

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yea the good old days Blader / Plum

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I feel like the devs thought people will just play Maehwa and Kunochi no matter what they do just because they are female characters, 

They're on to me

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They're on to me

lol also one interesting fact about Maehwa is that Maehwa had biggest breast in game because originally Maehwa had a male body with breasts on them which made their breasts bigger because of the male chest. After they fixed the body to look more like a female body they decided to keep the big breast thing because that's why many people originally started playing Maehwa.

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lol also one interesting fact about Maehwa is that Maehwa had biggest breast in game because originally Maehwa had a male body with breasts on them which made their breasts bigger because of the male chest. After they fixed the body to look more like a female body they decided to keep the big breast thing because that's why many people originally started playing Maehwa.

Jokes on everyone else. Flat is justice and my Maewha is Batman.

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