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Green Vs Blue Awak

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Is there any difference between a green awak and a ulted blue one besides the human damage vs every species damage, and the slight bit more ap?

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Besides the differences there are no differences.

Enchanting costs a lot more for blue, and even more fur ult as you only get one durability repair per mem frag, so do you enchanting before you upgrade. Personally I didn't think it was worth wasting my time on blue, get a Dande and live with the green while you wait.

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not really might have some hidden accuracy but unlikely, green is better for budget players whilst blue/yellow for those who want that little extra kick. (also that have cash to burn too.)

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At what point does the Green's bonus to "all species" become irrelevant to the Blue's "Against humans"? At a certain point the AP difference between Green and Blue becomes recognizable. So at what point should you dump the green awakened because the added AP of Blue is significant enough that it exceeds the benefit you'd receive against non-humans? Assuming that at one point it actually does exceed it at some point.

 

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At what point does the Green's bonus to "all species" become irrelevant to the Blue's "Against humans"? At a certain point the AP difference between Green and Blue becomes recognizable. So at what point should you dump the green awakened because the added AP of Blue is significant enough that it exceeds the benefit you'd receive against non-humans? Assuming that at one point it actually does exceed it at some point.

 

Here's your solution.  If you can spend money on Artisan's memories... go for the blue.  If you can't, go green.  simple. 

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Here's your solution.  If you can spend money on Artisan's memories... go for the blue.  If you can't, go green.  simple. 

The question wasn't a "cost" issue. It was more of a, when does Blue outweigh Green if you're more of a PvE player. Green is better for pve because it has bonuses against all species, whereas blue only has a bonus against humans  (albeit a slightly higher buff than green, but more specialized). I was curious as to at what point the AP difference in blue outweighs green, to the point that it's no longer a question.

 

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At what point does the Green's bonus to "all species" become irrelevant to the Blue's "Against humans"? At a certain point the AP difference between Green and Blue becomes recognizable. So at what point should you dump the green awakened because the added AP of Blue is significant enough that it exceeds the benefit you'd receive against non-humans? Assuming that at one point it actually does exceed it at some point.

 

As far as i can tell, im just gonna buy a good green(tri) and then try to snipe a Dande since blue just isnt worth it 

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Blue and Green are both SHIT. There is a big chunk of hidden accuracy on Dande that is not on Blue and Green. That is why in end game PVP nobody even use Blue and Green, maybe if ur a WZ u can get away with them but definitely not other classes. U can never have enough accuracy in PVP.

For PVE though they are about the same, so use the Green one cuz it's so much cheaper.

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i spent some money to pass from green to blue (and then yellow)

but difference is not (in general) perceptible

considering that to raise a green is cheap (you find from vendor for 100k)  , you could reach tet with little more economical efforts compared to a TRI blue (in my case the blue was very cheap, just to contextualize) ... so you can save money for a dandelio which is >>>>

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As a wizard, I think, for me personaly, the green one has by far the most benefits.

Firstly, I do very few/short grinding sessions so I dont rly need great gear.

Secondly, its the best looking awakening weapon for wiz...

Ofc it being cheap is a nice bonus.

 

Was rly easy to get a +15 one from the market along with additional ones for repair. Gonna get it to at least tri the next time I dare touching the enchanting system :| 

 

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Blue and Green are both SHIT. There is a big chunk of hidden accuracy on Dande that is not on Blue and Green. That is why in end game PVP nobody even use Blue and Green, maybe if ur a WZ u can get away with them but definitely not other classes. U can never have enough accuracy in PVP.

For PVE though they are about the same, so use the Green one cuz it's so much cheaper.

I don't want to steal Plunge's line but source?  I'm genuinely interested to see any tests as I haven't so far and it would mean I'd have to change my plans and attempt to get Dande as the stats don't appear to back up the huge cost.

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I don't want to steal Plunge's line but source?  I'm genuinely interested to see any tests as I haven't so far and it would mean I'd have to change my plans and attempt to get Dande as the stats don't appear to back up the huge cost.

I've yet to find any English document about this. But if u have a Dande u can try it by urself it's fairly easy. Or ask anyone that is hardcore PVPer it's pretty much common sense. If u have enough accuracy Blue and Dande should be equal in damage.

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@FapperJack - ok cool man thanks for reply :)

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nope the difference is what it is.. does it mean anything? no. game is balanced. 1 ap > 4 dp

get used to it, because if you suggest positive changes for the calculations your post will be blocked

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I planned to stay with green until i get a dande and i tend to believe the increased +species damage on enhance should be higher than the slightly higher ap the blue gives. I regularly use green aw weapons to failstack on up to tri. The only reason i switched to a blue ultimate one was because i accidentally succeeded one to tri while failstacking (i had a couple of aw weapon boxes, so why not fs on those... i alrdy made 2 tri blue ones while failstacking)

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The question wasn't a "cost" issue. It was more of a, when does Blue outweigh Green if you're more of a PvE player. Green is better for pve because it has bonuses against all species, whereas blue only has a bonus against humans  (albeit a slightly higher buff than green, but more specialized). I was curious as to at what point the AP difference in blue outweighs green, to the point that it's no longer a question.

 

The AP difference is the same at all enchant levels though. Whether it's +0 or PEN, the difference is 5 AP for blue, 7 AP for ultimate blue.

As for whether blue gets more human damage per enhance than green gets all-species, well, we don't have those numbers so it's hard to say. It could be that they get the same so it stays a difference of 2 species damage at all enhances just like how the AP difference is always the same; they do tend to favor consistent enhance gains between items so that wouldn't surprise me.

What I can say is that ultimate blue isn't a huge increase over green against humans, and green is better against non-humans from at least +15, haven't tested lower.

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The question wasn't a "cost" issue. It was more of a, when does Blue outweigh Green if you're more of a PvE player. Green is better for pve because it has bonuses against all species, whereas blue only has a bonus against humans  (albeit a slightly higher buff than green, but more specialized). I was curious as to at what point the AP difference in blue outweighs green, to the point that it's no longer a question.

 

Well the one factor that is missing that we really don't have any stats on is the evasion increase you get with the blue awakening weapon vs the green.  I imagine it's probably fairly significant the same way there is a big jump between green main hands and a liverto. 

So that is something you have to factor in.  Also there is a significant AP increase going from green to blue which combined with the most likely hidden accuracy buff of the blue weapon ends up outweighing the green weapon.  Granted if you have a grean awakening weapon that is much higher than your blue then keep using that but once the blue awakening's AP equals that of the green version I'd switch over. 

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