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Confirmed Kuno and Ninja THE WEAKEST!!

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See and everyone here on the forums saying we are OP and Ninjas are perfectly fine

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Wooh mae isnt garbage according to the kda chart

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People are too busy rerolling DK to care lol

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Where is sorc?

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fight. me. 

(nobody can argue mah bby needs love now ;-;)

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Where is sorc?

with warrior,ranger,mae and musa :P forgot to add her :P 

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See and everyone here on the forums saying we are OP and Ninjas are perfectly fine

All this shows are ninja & kuno players KR are scrubs, the class is op, unlimited invis, 2 hit KD kill ninja, kuno desync hoolahoop kill in 4 attacks with 190ap  vs players 263dp & 281dp- shown on twitch & youtube
It'd be a shame & pure 
incompetence for devs to use player faults to balanced a op class. Whcih would explain alot to date!
e.g. witch, wizard, warrior & DK awakened (kr) OP'ness

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this is based on rbf data.

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I'm sure very few people are actually surprised at this point.

 

 

All this shows are ninja & kuno players KR are scrubs, the class is op, unlimited invis, 2 hit KD kill ninja, kuno desync hoolahoop kill in 4 attacks with 190ap  vs players 263dp & 281dp- shown on twitch & youtubeIt'd be a shame & pure incompetence for devs to use player faults to balanced a op class. Whcih would explain alot to date!e.g. witch, wizard, warrior & DK awakened (kr) OP'ness

Are you actually trying to refute factual data with your opinion? This sounds like a gear issue, friend. 263 dp is nothing. Tri boss gear is not endgame. It's midgame. Do you really expect 4 dp pieces to outlast 8 ap pieces? Anything under 300 dp is trash. Go watch BJGodna's streams. In his dp set at 320-350 dp, he can take more than a combo from full ap players. Look at the evasion builds doing work in EU.

this is based on rbf data.

If that's true, irrelevant's going to have a fit. According to this, his class is actually better than all the others besides witch, wiz, and dk. Lmao.

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Hmmm, how many times did I say Kuno was objectively the worst class in the game, and people just told me I wasn't good enough.   Hmmmmmm HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Honestly gotta be the class bugs I keep hearing about holding Kuno back + her worse TTK vs Ninja. She's better as a frontliner thanks to the aoe ccs and  super armor and frontal guard on almost every ability.

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kuno far weaker than ninja.

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meh I'll stick with my ninja and dk ,  tried kuno and wiz and musa awakening and after a bit got very very bored

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Sorc in the third one (light green) 소서러 (graph legend)

Sorc is equivalent to giant but just below to DK, wiz, witch, warrior, tamer, ranger, musa, and maehwa.

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I have a kunoichi and witch, so I can only go up from this point.

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lol if they judge class balance by kda then we're all doomed

 

 

who cares about skill and taking things like dedication in consideration anyway?

the only reason why tamer has "good stats" is because the class is so incredibly shit that everyone but the most dedicated players quit and because its also a loli class attracting nolifers and autists who are on average more skilled than normies. Tamer is still teh biggest joke and weakest and shittiest class i've seen or played in a game because it's skills simply do not work in europe. You constantly get hit mid dodge/sa and the damage values on skills is too low in comparison to other classes

 

I wonder if they take rbf stats in account too. So by that logic because im sitting on 56k rbf score that means tamer is op? sick joke, if i played any other class that'd be 2 times more because i wouldn't get tilted every 3 days and have near-quit experience due to how shit tamer is, nor would i attempt to reroll multiple times while at it

 

 

and kuno isn't bad at all, kuno is one of the better classes and these people must be incredibly sad and deluded if they base their class balance off of random RBF data without taking skill or dedication in consideration

 

 

Truth is i've been at my limit about taking how incredibly shitty and trash tamer is for a very long while now which is why i barely play it any more so i can say that i don't really care about their view and comprehension of things. What i do care is how incredibly wrong and shitty and inefficient their way of judging is. 

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and kuno isn't bad at all, kuno is one of the better classes and these people must be incredibly sad and deluded if they base their class balance off of random RBF data without taking skill or dedication in consideration

I already said that before but no one believed in me

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lol if they judge class balance by kda then we're all doomed

 

 

who cares about skill and taking things like dedication in consideration anyway?

the only reason why tamer has "good stats" is because the class is so incredibly shit that everyone but the most dedicated players quit and because its also a loli class attracting nolifers and autists who are on average more skilled than normies. Tamer is still teh biggest joke and weakest and shittiest class i've seen or played in a game because it's skills simply do not work in europe. You constantly get hit mid dodge/sa and the damage values on skills is too low in comparison to other classes

 

I wonder if they take rbf stats in account too. So by that logic because im sitting on 56k rbf score that means tamer is op? sick joke, if i played any other class that'd be 2 times more because i wouldn't get tilted every 3 days and have near-quit experience due to how shit tamer is, nor would i attempt to reroll multiple times while at it

 

 

and kuno isn't bad at all, kuno is one of the better classes and these people must be incredibly sad and deluded if they base their class balance off of random RBF data without taking skill or dedication in consideration

 

 

Truth is i've been at my limit about taking how incredibly shitty and trash tamer is for a very long while now which is why i barely play it any more so i can say that i don't really care about their view and comprehension of things. What i do care is how incredibly wrong and shitty and inefficient their way of judging is. 

Yeah... Tamers are deifnitely the most dedicated players to their class and all other are just carried by OP abilities and bugs... While tamers are th eonly ones who have to actually grind to not be the last...

 

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lol if they judge class balance by kda then we're all doomed

who cares about skill and taking things like dedication in consideration anyway?

I have to say, god, your formatting is so atrocious. Anyway.. Dedication to class has nothing to do with this topic at hand, unless you mean TTAS or time-to-acquire-skill as well as Skill Ceiling. Most classes have a medium to high skill ceiling, but most do not have a high skill entry barrier. Skill isn't something you can really monitor via server stats. That would take a long time and require a lot of polling. Usually, you can look at the big siege guilds, though, and see how their classes are performing and what ratio of them are what class to get a decent metric. As for KDR, uh... you're really shortsighted. This is a pvp game. Class performance is purely dictated by how easily it can kill, how many kills it can get before it dies versus how many times it dies in fights. High KDR is a sign of a powerful class and/or skilled player, low kdr is a sign of a weak class and/or bad players. These numbers are obviously averaged out, so it would take into account players of all skill levels.

the only reason why tamer has "good stats" is because the class is so incredibly shit that everyone but the most dedicated players quit and because its also a loli class attracting nolifers and autists who are on average more skilled than normies. Tamer is still teh biggest joke and weakest and shittiest class i've seen or played in a game because it's skills simply do not work in europe. You constantly get hit mid dodge/sa and the damage values on skills is too low in comparison to other classes

What does that make you, bub? I think you're insulting yourself here more than anything else, including your effort to prove some deluded point that Tamer is the worst class in the game. You still play the class even though it's apparently complete shit in your eyes. The former is a result of desync, which comes from the terrible netcode ingame and the god-awful servers in both regions. The latter doesn't even come into play because skill %s don't reflect actual pvp damage at all. If it did, you wouldn't have any burst as your modifiers are currently the lowest in the game. Tamer burst is incredible.

 

I wonder if they take rbf stats in account too. So by that logic because im sitting on 56k rbf score that means tamer is op? sick joke, if i played any other class that'd be 2 times more because i wouldn't get tilted every 3 days and have near-quit experience due to how shit tamer is, nor would i attempt to reroll multiple times while at it

This is based on kills to deaths, not rbf score. Rbf score isn't a sign of anything. All it means is you picked your targets well and didn't die. You're one person, as well. As I said before, it's averaged out. Tamers have the current highest KDR in RBF after DKs, Wizards, and Witches in that order. Either you're an idiot and a masochist, or your class isn't as bad as you say it is and you just aren't that good.

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and there come the pleb kunos/ninjas who don't know how to pvp and by a pure intellectual lazyness try to show they are the weakest class because the least taken :facepalm: 

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Least popular != weakest

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Least popular != weakest

true, maybe it's more because ppl in mmorpgs tend to choose classes like war or wizard rather than assassin don't you think? and maybe it's because (ninjas at least) they are one of the most difficult classes to master in this game (and in most mmorpgs) and appear like complete shit when you don't know how to play them?

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and there come the pleb kunos/ninjas who don't know how to pvp and by a pure intellectual lazyness try to show they are the weakest class because the least taken :facepalm: 

Your whole statement makes no sense. It's an average taken from each class population...

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Your whole statement makes no sense. It's an average taken from each class population...

an average taken from each population...

excuse me but what does that mean exactly? an average of what

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