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I wish the Devs would focus on making more rewarding negative karma gameplay

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A TRUE Outlaw town or Pirate Island would make this game 1000x better.

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Maybe a dedicated pvp channel and a dedicated pve channel

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Maybe a dedicated pvp channel and a dedicated pve channel

Um, absolutely not

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A TRUE Outlaw town or Pirate Island would make this game 1000x better.

For 5% of the player base.  Resources better used elsewhere. 

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For 5% of the player base.  Resources better used elsewhere. 

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Because I dont agree with you, you throw what you perceive to be an insult at me?   Your assumptions about me dont make your idea any better.  

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Um, absolutely not

Why not? It's a great idea. All the murderhobos go to the PvP channel, all the carebears will go to the PvE channel, and all the normal people can can enjoy that spicy zest that is the occasional PvP fight during a grind session.

As far as more options for red players, I think it would be neat if they made it so that instead of trade items being destroyed, they become lootable if the killer is neg karma. It would make pirate island a -----ing goldmine for red players, and if you made it so that destroyed vehicles did the same thing, you'd get more ship combat, considering poping someones ship on the ride back could net you millions.

Another great idea would be guild missions revolving around delivering some kind of trade pack to/from magoria that red players can steal and turn in for money as well.

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With node wars and the future miltia system, over world pvp is the least of their concern, and honestly, it's a game of aholes.

With the world getting bigger and bigger it's pretty much limited to very small scrims at this point, since even if you can find someone in red, it's like, whatever.

Karma is rarely an issue anymore, with so many channels, so many rules, and so many ways to make money and get xp.

Anyone perma red, is likely to be reported for harassment before they can live in red very long.

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Why not? It's a great idea. All the murderhobos go to the PvP channel, all the carebears will go to the PvE channel, and all the normal people can can enjoy that spicy zest that is the occasional PvP fight during a grind session.

As far as more options for red players, I think it would be neat if they made it so that instead of trade items being destroyed, they become lootable if the killer is neg karma. It would make pirate island a -----ing goldmine for red players, and if you made it so that destroyed vehicles did the same thing, you'd get more ship combat, considering poping someones ship on the ride back could net you millions.

Another great idea would be guild missions revolving around delivering some kind of trade pack to/from magoria that red players can steal and turn in for money as well.

For this game, it's not. And I'm glad the devs have no intentions of releasing a dedicated PvE channel.

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why go red when you can just dec that persons guild?

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why go red when you can just dec that persons guild?

Some people who keep wanting to be aholes and knock people off horses on the road I guess.

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This was actually discussed like years ago, sadly any sort of deed done that would benefit the pkers will imbalance the scale of the semi-open world mmo called Black Desert.

I myself even proposed  this: http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/20393-hiring-mercenaries-for-protections/ which sadly was rejected because, well its because pkers would get an advantage. 

Though rewarding red players with actual rooms in Maiquun would be a huge, step on providing a safe haven. 


BUT the biggest problem here is, are the life skillers. Should there become any exclusive content for pvpers, the life skillers will cry about that content being unavailable to them.

Just wait for the future sandbox mmos, like CoE, AoC, etc. 

Those games will be true sandbox as in you can do whatever you want. Heck, I remember reading about a mini pk enable on trade runs, a way to play cops and robbers.

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why go red when you can just dec that persons guild?

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This was actually discussed like years ago, sadly any sort of deed done that would benefit the pkers will imbalance the scale of the semi-open world mmo called Black Desert.

I myself even proposed  this: http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/20393-hiring-mercenaries-for-protections/ which sadly was rejected because, well its because pkers would get an advantage. 

Though rewarding red players with actual rooms in Maiquun would be a huge, step on providing a safe haven. 


BUT the biggest problem here is, are the life skillers. Should there become any exclusive content for pvpers, the life skillers will cry about that content being unavailable to them.

Just wait for the future sandbox mmos, like CoE, AoC, etc. 

Those games will be true sandbox as in you can do whatever you want. Heck, I remember reading about a mini pk enable on trade runs, a way to play cops and robbers.

It is very sad. Muiquinn guards also hit positive karma players softer than a wet noodle. Actual residences there would be awesome! 

 

I miss Pirate island from ArcheAge. It was small and hardly took any "resources". Sometimes it'd get raided by carebear do-gooders and everyone banded together. It was a lot of fun.

Margoria would've been a perfect time to implement a Pirate island. 

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Um, absolutely not

why not? A dedicated pvp channel will have zero karma penalties. So you can kill without karma deductions. And a pve channel would be strictly pve.

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A TRUE Outlaw town or Pirate Island would make this game 1000x better.

u can already gank noobs for free kill at desert fogan cuz it's so close to outlaw town already

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why not? A dedicated pvp channel will have zero karma penalties. So you can kill without karma deductions. And a pve channel would be strictly pve.

Because I like killing wagons and lifeskillers on the road

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i agree!

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Because I like killing wagons and lifeskillers on the road

Weird how you like to attack people who dont want to fight back. What ever happened to OW for competitive pvp.

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1. make valencia great.
2. Jailing system for non desert areas, no penalties of any sort in the desert
3. instant better game for everyone.

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Um, absolutely not

why? I guess being on a sever with others who are looking for more pvp is not your idea of fun... You seem to want rewards for attacking the under geared .. vs being on a channel of people more likely able to defend themselves ... 

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Why not? It's a great idea. All the murderhobos go to the PvP channel, all the carebears will go to the PvE channel, and all the normal people can can enjoy that spicy zest that is the occasional PvP fight during a grind session.

As far as more options for red players, I think it would be neat if they made it so that instead of trade items being destroyed, they become lootable if the killer is neg karma. It would make pirate island a -----ing goldmine for red players, and if you made it so that destroyed vehicles did the same thing, you'd get more ship combat, considering poping someones ship on the ride back could net you millions.

Another great idea would be guild missions revolving around delivering some kind of trade pack to/from magoria that red players can steal and turn in for money as well.

They don't want to pvp eachother, that's too much work. They want to kill those who have no idea how to fight back because it makes them feel like gods or something.

Weird how you like to attack people who dont want to fight back. What ever happened to OW for competitive pvp.

There is no competitive pvp, just false ego stretching. They gotta get off somehow.

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Weird how you like to attack people who dont want to fight back. What ever happened to OW for competitive pvp.

People that attack afk people actually need to git gud and learn to actually fight against people that arnt afk.

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Ok SO

 

You dont want to improve bad karma play. You want to bev allowed to freekill

1) lifeskillers (people that play the game a different way that you)

2) Low level / Low gear people (people that didnt play as much time that you) 

 

SO you dont want to PvP but just kill people. PvP is not this. You deserv a bad karma and all the "hard life" that can give. 

I think the PvP away from RedBG and from node war could be improve, BUT This game is not a "PvP game". It is just a important part, and people didnt come to do an activ and serious pvp activity there. because... the game is not this way. For a game mainly PvP i would go BnS for example. If you want see more PvP outside node/RBG... this game can have it easy... with "no PvP channel" (with a need to not fighting PvP during 15 min before able to go this channel)

 

If you cant admit people that would like the game a different way you want the game to be. The matter is not how the game is now but you

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Any change that will add more gameplay options for people is step in right direction... They are adding board games and simulators, new lifeskills, expanding world.. I see no reason to not expand players option of playstyle...

Ofc there has to be drawbacks as well... Cant be much better than classic style, otherwise game will again become uniformed in this way... Many almsot equally good options is what is best...

Btw ----- you carebears and your PvE channels... I am mostly lifeskiller/explorer myself and i dont understand just how shameless you can be with these stupid ideas...

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Why not? It's a great idea. All the murderhobos go to the PvP channel, all the carebears will go to the PvE channel, and all the normal people can can enjoy that spicy zest that is the occasional PvP fight during a grind session.

As far as more options for red players, I think it would be neat if they made it so that instead of trade items being destroyed, they become lootable if the killer is neg karma. It would make pirate island a -----ing goldmine for red players, and if you made it so that destroyed vehicles did the same thing, you'd get more ship combat, considering poping someones ship on the ride back could net you millions.

Another great idea would be guild missions revolving around delivering some kind of trade pack to/from magoria that red players can steal and turn in for money as well.

It absolutely isn't. It funnels more people into certain channels and does nothing to fix the current issues. It also removes pvp completely from some channels. This game was designed around competing for grind spots. Sadly, they removed the idea to help the noobier players and didn't do anything to balance it out for the rest of us, who actually believe in pvp and don't just want everything handed to us just for showing up.

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