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Things were better without pearl gifting

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yes i like that i can gift pearls to my friends for they bdays and shit, but this is bullshit, you cant buy ANY boss gear unless you gift that guy with some pearls, fking hell dude i have the money for it ok? ive spend near $6k on this game already in cosmetics for all my alts and shit, but i refuse to give pearls to a stranger just cuz "the system allows it" screw that, pls make this against the TOS or remove it completely , tbh is the only real p2w of this game, and i hate it that i dont see more people complain about it

tl;dr : pearl gifting is ruining the community 

edit: try to get a t8 horse without gifting $50 of pearls to the lucky fellow 

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Then don't do it?

If they remove pearl gifting then they should also remove selling pearl items in the MP.

And ideally rework all the "conveniences" out of the pearl store so we only spend money on cosmetic stuff.

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Then don't do it?

If they remove pearl gifting then they should also remove selling pearl items in the MP.

And ideally rework all the "conveniences" out of the pearl store so we only spend money on cosmetic stuff.

is not the same, selling 5 items for 125m is nothing, 125 is nothing unless you are a really low tier player :))

but this is another thing, this forces you to pay real money if u want to be good, pls do not compare the 2, it makes no sense and its just an effort to divert the attention to elsewhere 

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I've said this once before, and I'll say it here. If gifting pearls wasn't a possibility, the 5 pieces of boss gear that I've sold in exchange for pearls would still be sitting in my storage.

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Personal trade is a better solution than pearl gifting. Asking for pearl = scam. You should never trust anyone that asks for pearls because this game's system doesn't protect u from getting scammed.

I have no idea why does this company condone such fraudulent criminal act. Although with the broken market as it stands today u can't really blame players asking for pearls.

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Setting up back door deals is not a supported deal 

 

so you are asking to exploit the system just as much as pearl sellers 

 

if youre actually serious about setting up these back door deals, the pearls or no pearls both require the exact same monster pre order or 'luck' on the bidding stage, so put your preorder that you otherwise would have been happy to pay without pearl trading and you should win 

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The market sucks yeah, i cant afford to buy pearls. But i can afford to get stuff. I can grind out all the money I need to get what i want buy only playing 4 hours a night.

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Personal trade is a better solution than pearl gifting. Asking for pearl = scam. You should never trust anyone that asks for pearls because this game's system doesn't protect u from getting scammed.

I have no idea why does this company condone such fraudulent criminal act. Although with the broken market as it stands today u can't really blame players asking for pearls.

Also is very easy to scam...

You want a boss armor piece so ask a friend to spam lfg buying, when someone accepts your friend makes a deal paying if preorder is successful but you are the one placing the preorder, so there you are, you have a high chance of getting your piece without paying any pearl. And the guy has no clue.

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Personal trade is a better solution than pearl gifting. Asking for pearl = scam. You should never trust anyone that asks for pearls because this game's system doesn't protect u from getting scammed.

I have no idea why does this company condone such fraudulent criminal act. Although with the broken market as it stands today u can't really blame players asking for pearls.

people can spend their money however they want

 

if people wanna drop RL money on stuff they're free to do so, they only reason outlaw stuff like palpal and other stuff is it directally undercuts their bottem line 

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Also is very easy to scam...
You want a boss armor piece so ask a friend to spam lfg buying, when someone accepts your friend makes a deal paying if preorder is successful but you are the one placing the preorder, so there you are, you have a high chance of getting your piece without paying any pearl. And the guy has no clue.

Like seriously, the only way to prevent u from getting scammed is allowing personal trade. If the devs want to remove gold sellers they could implement some sort of personal trade surveillance system to make sure the 2 ppl trading are not gold sellers.

people can spend their money however they want

 

if people wanna drop RL money on stuff they're free to do so, they only reason outlaw stuff like palpal and other stuff is it directally undercuts their bottem line 

PA or Kakao gonna get sued sooner or later cuz RL money is involved. Just like Blizzard is with Diablo3.

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Personal trade is a better solution than pearl gifting. Asking for pearl = scam. You should never trust anyone that asks for pearls because this game's system doesn't protect u from getting scammed.

I have no idea why does this company condone such fraudulent criminal act. Although with the broken market as it stands today u can't really blame players asking for pearls.

They don't condone it, they've stated that inside a forum thread. They just won't refund your pearls if you're stupid enough to get scammed.

Like seriously, the only way to prevent u from getting scammed is allowing personal trade. If the devs want to remove gold sellers they could implement some sort of personal trade surveillance system to make sure the 2 ppl trading are not gold sellers.

PA or Kakao gonna get sued sooner or later cuz RL money is involved. Just like Blizzard is with Diablo3.

Kakao, maybe. PA? No.

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pearl gifting hasent affected my gameplay in any way, boss armors get posted everyday atleast 2-3 times per piece. If anything pearl gifting is giving you a better chance at getting these items cus idiots are giving these guys pearls to POST it lol...

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They don't condone it, they've stated that inside a forum thread. They just won't refund your pearls if you're stupid enough to get scammed.

Kakao, maybe. PA? No.

Not having a personal trade, and with this broken market system, and with pearl gifting is pretty much asking for a lawsuit.

Well at least I ain't stupid enough to trust scammers so I ain't suing them but there are lots of stupid idiots out there especially those law suit happy dudes in US.

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Like seriously, the only way to prevent u from getting scammed is allowing personal trade. If the devs want to remove gold sellers they could implement some sort of personal trade surveillance system to make sure the 2 ppl trading are not gold sellers.

PA or Kakao gonna get sued sooner or later cuz RL money is involved. Just like Blizzard is with Diablo3.

its not RL money, its pearl shop items, everything was legit purchased and cannot be turned back into RL money

 

and thats the difference between this game and D3, d3 facilitated straight money trade, thats different than two people making a private deal 

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I've said this once before, and I'll say it here. If gifting pearls wasn't a possibility, the 5 pieces of boss gear that I've sold in exchange for pearls would still be sitting in my storage.

Oh no, I play a video game as a hobby and the game randomly allowed me to loot or obtain a pixelated piece of equipment, it must be worth real life money. I worked so hard inside this virtual world, just waiting to finally be able to obtain it in some way, it must be worth real life money.

Oh, I could help fellow gamers out that also want this virtual piece of equipment? Nonono, not unless they give me real life money, because I worked hard for this. No pay? Ok, I also don't want other ppl to slap the shit out of me so I'll just let it sit in my warehouse, so I can stare at my market asset value.

Stop being so entitled kid. It's shitters like you that'll ruin it in the end.

Stop this stupidity of demanding money for virtual items. If anything you could be lucky if he gifts you something out of pure happiness that he finally got the item he wanted, or just to return a kindness of you listing the item and him getting it. 

Your rng luck to have obtained something isn't worth a single goddamn cent.

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I think gifting pearls for rare items is fine the way it is. You never HAVE to give someone pearls for an item. You can wait until one appears on the MP, shows up on night vendor, or drops. To me, these threads just seem like whining cause you can't get the item you want as quickly as you want.

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Not having a personal trade, and with this broken market system, and with pearl gifting is pretty much asking for a lawsuit.

Well at least I ain't stupid enough to trust scammers so I ain't suing them but there are lots of stupid idiots out there especially those law suit happy dudes in US.

Kakao change their ToS specifically to avoid that. You essentially waive all your rights the moment you connect to Kakao's servers now.

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yes i like that i can gift pearls to my friends for they bdays and shit, but this is bullshit, you cant buy ANY boss gear unless you gift that guy with some pearls, fking hell dude i have the money for it ok? ive spend near $6k on this game already in cosmetics for all my alts and shit, but i refuse to give pearls to a stranger just cuz "the system allows it" screw that, pls make this against the TOS or remove it completely , tbh is the only real p2w of this game, and i hate it that i dont see more people complain about it

tl;dr : pearl gifting is ruining the community 

edit: try to get a t8 horse without gifting $50 of pearls to the lucky fellow 

You can use night vendor or/and farm it yourself.

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Kakao change their ToS specifically to avoid that. You essentially waive all your rights the moment you connect to Kakao's servers now.

ToS is not law. ToS is like a local rule for a casino or a night club. If someone does take it to the court that ToS ain't gonna mean jack.

 

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If they remove pearl gifting then they should also remove selling pearl items in the MP.

this 

 

PS:  Be careful what you wish for  @ teh OP,  I got my boss Armor last summer So I'm pretty Lucky Right??  wrong... most pieces are STILL +12 & +13.  So whenever you're seeing some schmuck hitting TRI with Boss armor?....Just know... you're WAY less lucky than that by default if you still haven't gotten the basic piece, and you'd still be taking Months to get it there too even if you did get all the pieces by now.  Don't be in such a hurry for this B.S. it's not as fun as it looks

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yes i like that i can gift pearls to my friends for they bdays and shit, but this is bullshit, you cant buy ANY boss gear unless you gift that guy with some pearls, fking hell dude i have the money for it ok? ive spend near $6k on this game already in cosmetics for all my alts and shit, but i refuse to give pearls to a stranger just cuz "the system allows it" screw that, pls make this against the TOS or remove it completely , tbh is the only real p2w of this game, and i hate it that i dont see more people complain about it

tl;dr : pearl gifting is ruining the community 

edit: try to get a t8 horse without gifting $50 of pearls to the lucky fellow 

Exactly as others have said, why do it?
Those items people are WTS X item for pearls, just put a preorder on that exact item, not like you have to pay pearls for it, if you have a high enough preorder that item is your if it goes to pre.

And for the horses, you wont get one anyways, so no need to pay a guy for a chance, he will put that horse up no matter what, so you can try to snipe that as well.
Us that actually sold horses for pearls for whatever reason is mostly gone with the new market changes, and a lot that mostly did it to sell to friends.
I only sold for pearls since I used around the same amount of pearls to make the horses good. And that also made the silver value become bearable, as it usually is not even worth it over AFK fishing.

Me personally have gone over to processing like everyone else now. 

But yeah, don't fall for people selling X item for pearls is the general idea, these items will be put up anyways, and you'll have your chance like everyone else.

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After last maintenance, trading horses for pearls (or well, trading horses at all) has become nigh impossible.

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ToS is not law. ToS is like a local rule for a casino or a night club. If someone does take it to the court that ToS ain't gonna mean jack.

 

Meanwhile all lawsuits that I've read about where people have attempted to file on games that sell only digital currency have flopped and failed.

@Plunge - Tell this person why it's not possible to file a lawsuit against Kakao right now. You're better at this than I am.

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yes i like that i can gift pearls to my friends for they bdays and shit, but this is bullshit, you cant buy ANY boss gear unless you gift that guy with some pearls, fking hell dude i have the money for it ok? ive spend near $6k on this game already in cosmetics for all my alts and shit, but i refuse to give pearls to a stranger just cuz "the system allows it" screw that, pls make this against the TOS or remove it completely , tbh is the only real p2w of this game, and i hate it that i dont see more people complain about it

tl;dr : pearl gifting is ruining the community 

edit: try to get a t8 horse without gifting $50 of pearls to the lucky fellow 

The worst thing is these -----s want pearls upfront to list the item. 

That's gifting pearls for a chance to get an item your not even guaranteed to get through pre-order.

I asked someone in chat a few days ago that had a dandie box how much he wanted (just out of curiosity) he wanted 3k pearls upfront just to bloody list the item!

I agree get rid of pearl gifting, this will eventually destroy the games community, till the point ppl would probably quit.   

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Kakao change their ToS specifically to avoid that. You essentially waive all your rights the moment you connect to Kakao's servers now.

you cant waive all of your rights.

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