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Do we really need a liverto?

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How can you not see the irony in this? Are you not assuming that Rosar has a lot more accuracy than Yuria? Are you not assuming that Rosar has a "small difference in accuracy" compared to Liverto? I asked you for evidence and all you had was feels...

yet you are assuming the same shit that rosar has the same kind of accuracy as yuria, point being liverto is not worth it if you are on a budget , and rosar is by far the best budget sword. i dont know how many ways i can explain this to not be made evident.

Everything was provided.. Links, numbers... Just you are complete dumb-----... Same thing like now with sockets.. You just ignore it and cry here that people are mean to you, when you are right... Really you are one of the stupidest people i ever saw... Same shit like Plunge.. Making things up, while having no clue about basic math, lying, crying and then ignoring facts when they make you look like an idiot... :D

then where are these links and numbers you so proudly claim to have posted , because you never posted it in reference to any of the shit you have said to me. not once.

but really ignoring shit? im calling you flat out , to prove your shit in person and your dodging, i mean ffs either post your god damn test or stfu about it, come and prove your shit , or stfu about it. otherwise im done trying to bother with you or chors. because as far as ive been concerned neither of you have shown any kind of ''evidence'' on DR being pure garbage, neither of you. as they say put your money where your mouth is.

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yet you are assuming the same shit that rosar has the same kind of accuracy as yuria, point being liverto is not worth it if you are on a budget , and rosar is by far the best budget sword. i dont know how many ways i can explain this to not be made evident.

then where are these links and numbers you so proudly claim to have posted , because you never posted it in reference to any of the shit you have said to me. not once.

but really ignoring shit? im calling you flat out , to prove your shit in person and your dodging, i mean ffs either post your god damn test or stfu about it, come and prove your shit , or stfu about it. otherwise im done trying to bother with you or chors. because as far as ive been concerned neither of you have shown any kind of ''evidence'' on DR being pure garbage, neither of you. as they say put your money where your mouth is.

Weren't you the one saying Nouver dealing more damage on evasion targets than Vangertz and in general against evasion players?

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yet you are assuming the same shit that rosar has the same kind of accuracy as yuria, point being liverto is not worth it if you are on a budget , and rosar is by far the best budget sword. i dont know how many ways i can explain this to not be made evident.

then where are these links and numbers you so proudly claim to have posted , because you never posted it in reference to any of the shit you have said to me. not once.

but really ignoring shit? im calling you flat out , to prove your shit in person and your dodging, i mean ffs either post your god damn test or stfu about it, come and prove your shit , or stfu about it. otherwise im done trying to bother with you or chors. because as far as ive been concerned neither of you have shown any kind of ''evidence'' on DR being pure garbage, neither of you. as they say put your money where your mouth is.

4 posts above you -----ing retarded insect...

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You are asking people to prove you wrong while they showed you evidence (i did also in past and you still asked me for more or totally ignored it) while you didnt showed anything yet. 

If you dont take tests seriously or you trust yourself more than others (lol remember how you claimed Kutum is pure DR shield while i told you its not and you were calling me out) You should stop asking people for tests or any kind of evidence if you never provided anything. And if someone asks you , you are ignoring him or saying "test it yourself". Not sure if there is anyone taking you seriously. I remember how StarChief destroyed you on discord while ago because you was claiming, again, some shit about DR and when we asked you for evidence, you said that you didnt used any spreadhseet because it was test done just purely for you but you shared it on discord lol. You was trying to argue with him but it was just pure comedy. Claiming that you did tests but you wasnt able to back up your words while still convicing us that you are right / or "dont believe me if u dont want to" / "test it yourself". 

If you cant provide any evidence or cant back up your claims, stop sharing your stupid tests where you even didnt bother to use spreadsheet.

Anway, this is your legendary discord post. So why you are even bothering ? You are just one big hypocrite. And dont tell my im cherrypicking out of context because this is what you are doing for past months. Asking for evidence and providing none while spreading your truth pulled out of your ass.

in regards to tests , i dont take ANYBODYS tests seriously for 2 reasons, 1- alot of people have no idea how to do a realistic test for the purpose they are getting at. like people will do full attack combo's and use that as a test for accuracy and 2- i trust myself more than others.

i didnt use a spread sheet while doing the test because it was originally purely for me the guildie and anybody in the guild who wanted to know the results. it was intentionally a relatively small sample size because the trend in all the tests was relatively close. 

 

 

Cherry on top. Asking for evidence but when someone asks you 

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Arguing with flat-earthers is seldom worth the time and effort. 

 

To the OP; this is a question about your ingame economy, and your goals in game. If you want to participate in the so-called pvp endgame, you'll be wanting a kzarka either way, so you may aswell grab a rosar and keep it until you can afford a kzarka. There are plenty of tests around, and there has been shown a fair deal of datamining results. Go read up a little, and make up your own mind about what you want to do. The worst you  can do is take the word of people that have biased feelings one way or the other.

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Weren't you the one saying Nouver dealing more damage on evasion targets than Vangertz and in general against evasion players?

i remember saying it had THE POTENTIAL to, i.e. if you had enough accuracy from earrings/belt/gloves/gems/sword

4 posts above you -----ing retarded insect...

the post about DR that you have claimed ot have tested for weeks, you -----ing retarded insect......

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i remember saying it had THE POTENTIAL to, i.e. if you had enough accuracy from earrings/belt/gloves/gems/sword

the post about DR that you have claimed ot have tested for weeks, you -----ing retarded insect......

Is tehre as are other thing you are ignoring, bcs they make you look even more dumb, than you make look yourself... Not my problem you are illiteral...

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Is tehre as are other thing you are ignoring, bcs they make you look even more dumb, than you make look yourself... Not my problem you are illiteral...

So are you admitting you tested DR? Because surely you haven't.

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Is tehre as are other thing you are ignoring, bcs they make you look even more dumb, than you make look yourself... Not my problem you are illiteral...

as i said , many things you say are not even worth the time to reply , because all you'll do is make up some other excuse to not do what i propose talk some shit , and try to insult me (or somebody else who might agree with me as you have previously)

so once again, post your DR test that you probably didnt do, or come do the test i propose where me and some other evasion stacked warrior (or you) and see who can actually tank more consistently , or even if eva is that much better at all. cause you seem very determined that DR isnt even half as efficient as stacking eva

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as i said , many things you say are not even worth the time to reply , because all you'll do is make up some other excuse to not do what i propose talk some shit , and try to insult me (or somebody else who might agree with me as you have previously)

so once again, post your DR test that you probably didnt do, or come do the test i propose where me and some other evasion stacked warrior (or you) and see who can actually tank more consistently , or even if eva is that much better at all. cause you seem very determined that DR isnt even half as efficient as stacking eva

What propose? 1v1 me bro? :D I really won waste time with some simpletone who wont even know what he is seeing... Everything you want i provided in toher thrad.. The only thing keeping you form it is your own stupidity... There si no reason for me to waste more time with some troll, who is only for fun on these subforum and even that already got old... If you didint have shit for brain you would already realized it and shamefully shut up...

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What propose? 1v1 me bro? :D I really won waste time with some simpletone who wont even know what he is seeing... Everything you want i provided in toher thrad.. The only thing keeping you form it is your own stupidity... There si no reason for me to waste more time with some troll, who is only for fun on these subforum and even that already got old... If you didint have shit for brain you would already realized it and shamefully shut up...

if you actually bothered to read what people said , i said i proposed to do a real test, one that could easily be recorded and posted. that or you could actually post the test you claimed to have done that determined that like 120 DR or something is a 27% damage reduction or something along those lines.

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