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Memory Fragment market (Eu)

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I started doin daily quests for hunter marks again... :D Thats how desperate i am... :D 5 minutes = armor stone... :D

Oh dear lord, thankfully I graduated them so that's not an option for me ;p

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Pretty sure it's due to the DK awakening.

Everyone is trying to get weapons as high + as possible they sell for max value atm and are instantly sold. NA might just not care about that at all. Who knows.

Nope. Memory frags, Black Stone Armor as well as Hard&Sharp Crystal Shards are permanently sold out on EU. Been that way for at least 6+ months.

Only exception is during drop events, than it's possible to buy Black Stone Armor(but still no Sharp&Hards or Mem Frags).

Pretty obvious that NA has a higher percentage of players that prefers to sell enchantment materials over using it themselves. So I'm guessing bigger overall population, but also more life skillers, casuals and hardcore fishers not to bothered about upgrading their own gear. They're the only playertypes that's willing to sell items like Memory Fragments, in my experience.

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Na players god so many bad new on the RNG to use their stuff to upgrade, imo, NA players will sell their memory frag for silver to buy already upgraded stuff.  Thats the funny thing you dont know...

Edited by Sempei

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I started doin daily quests for hunter marks again... :D Thats how desperate i am... :D 5 minutes = armor stone... :D

Well, I have ~4000 hunter's seals but I'm always out of memory fragments...

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Fish bot

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Well, I have ~4000 hunter's seals but I'm always out of memory fragments...

Same.. I have over 6k hunters seals and ive never used them... But always short on mem frags! - started saving the mem frags for TET attempts 

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Not sure on EU but on NA people constantly run x10 disco/pila/book groups because you can literally just buy them off the MP and sell the total frags at a profit even after market loss. And a lot of people hate doing the groups and just sell all of their relics/books/pila fe. I also wouldn't be surprised if a larger portion of NA has given up on enhancing gear and has just opted to buy it out right which will lead to our own problems in the future.

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NA fish bots confirmed :D well who knows...

@CM_Aethon any idea whats up ?

 

Doesn't really look normal at all. 12mil sold memory fragments vs 7mil. 

 

Edited by Tulpa

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Compare NA market (left) with EU market (right):

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There's an accumulated trade difference of >1M for Ancient Relic Shards, but other numbers are within 200k range. Relic runs and cartian runs supply more hunter's seals than pila fe runs, which means more black stone (armor); that can also explain why there's a >1M difference in black stone (armor).

The amount of mem frags on the NA market is ridiculously high. Assuming NA and EU act similarly except EU actually uses the ancient relic shards, then EU would be hoarding that excess of >30k mem frags. But that's probably not the case since people are still complaining. The likely reasons are as others have stated, more NA fish botters for relic shards and greater usage of artisan memories.

Considering the accumulated trades for other items are not that far apart, it's uncertain whether population difference would really make that huge of a difference.

 

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There is extemely simple explanation for this:

 

NA players are selling and buying more frags while EU players are doing more relics by themselves.

 

Check relics sold on market too.

 

Doing relics is more worth than buying frags from MP also you're missing one fundamental point. If NA has more players then well sold frags should be a lot higher

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Alright, find someone to link me a PEN Cadry ingame. Full discretion promised, 5k beer to you and the person linking it. Should be easy enough, there's 24 of them after all.

I'm under no obligation to give you any proof. 
As far as I know Gamescom gear included PEN Crescents, not Cadry and on top those numbers would be way different if the statistics were influenced by GC-Gear. 
Furthermore I didn't say that the data was fully correct. I suspect that some items were produced when the exploits happened a while ago. 

Edited by BloodyPleasure

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I'm under no obligation to give you any proof. 
As far as I know Gamescom gear included PEN Crescents, not Cadry and on top those numbers would be way different if the statistics were influenced by GC-Gear. 
Furthermore I didn't say that the data was fully correct. I suspect that some items were produced when the exploits happened a while ago. 

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Gamescom gear

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I'm under no obligation to give you any proof. 
As far as I know Gamescom gear included PEN Crescents, not Cadry and on top those numbers would be way different if the statistics were influenced by GC-Gear. 
Furthermore I didn't say that the data was fully correct. I suspect that some items were produced when the exploits happened a while ago. 

the gear fits exactly. and as a nice side effect, it shows what kind of setup the devs preferred for a showcase.

which was 155ap and 390dp, and not what we usually see, 240 ap and 300 dp :-) maybe even the devs found the 2sec pvps too silly to show off

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1. Many players from EU left the game after they implemented the option to sell Cash shop items in-game's marketplace.

2. Enchant success rate on EU is lot higher than NA

3. EU players dont give a shniet bout boss weapons/armors 

Those are my thoughts, but also you should check the server's population, and from there you could get your answer.

They are using them and not selling stuff. 

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So is this worth looking into by PA yet?

 

The difference in enchanting experience between Eu & NA and even KR, other regions, i myself enjoy enchanting despite i have very bad rng so far but managed to have a go at Pen kz/dand (failed) Link and surprisingly i am more motivated to keep going but the mem gate is killing it for me, sharps/hards are easy cuz i gather decent (master 5) and silver is a lot but to force me to run scrolls is just stopping me unlike in NA and other regions, can i please have a region transfer coupon?

Does not matter the reason of other regions having a better market, they spent more money or use fishy methods or eu is lazy etc etc, the outcome is better experience for enchanting, i just think the eu community is no speaking out this issue, even with the log in rewards is no solving it.

 

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Eu

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Remember this is not about NA vs Eu vs KR, more about solving an issue in Eu and maybe one of the gms can help us by bringing this to PA's attention!                  @GM_Dew @GM_Caramel @CM_Aethon

NA confirmed carebear fisherman server! :ph34r:

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NA

 

 

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Edited by Prochilles

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just had a look, both markets look about the same, except for fragments really.

and a bunch more rangers and musas rerolling on NA, it seems

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 The likely reasons are as others have stated, more NA fish botters for relic shards and greater usage of artisan memories.

this is the answer to the thread

 

some people just like cheating more than others and then theres artisan memories 

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I'm under no obligation to give you any proof. 
As far as I know Gamescom gear included PEN Crescents, not Cadry and on top those numbers would be way different if the statistics were influenced by GC-Gear. 
Furthermore I didn't say that the data was fully correct. I suspect that some items were produced when the exploits happened a while ago. 

9_9

I'm sure if there'd been an enhancement exploit people would NOT have made 24 cadry rings anyway. Cmon, show the court you have an ounce of sense. They're cadrys for -----s sake.

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It appears as if NA does a lot more Relic groups. We see spammers in chat all day long. Maybe you guys in EU should get the Relic trend going. It's interesting that they are more popular in the NA server. I'm not sure why. Starved for money I spose. They drop like candy in the Calpheon territory (relics). Forbidden books are failry common as well. Pila Fe Scrolls drops like candy at Fogans. A little less reliable than the Relics tho.

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It appears as if NA does a lot more Relic groups. We see spammers in chat all day long. Maybe you guys in EU should get the Relic trend going.

It's the same shit here, there's just less players overall. You're not going to fix less overall players by running more relic groups.

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For most, relic shards isn't the problem, it's the incredible boredom of doing so many bosses

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Maybe Americans have a greater tolerance to being bored outta their skulls? :thinking:

I jest, but the generalizations in this thread are getting a tad out of touch ;p

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It's the same shit here, there's just less players overall. You're not going to fix less overall players by running more relic groups.

It's not that much less. 

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It's the same shit here, there's just less players overall. You're not going to fix less overall players by running more relic groups.

player numbers were always growing. it's about the ratio, not the total number. if you would double EU numbers with same amount of people that do relics, buy and sell shards etc, nothing would change.

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