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NA Region Guilds Exploit node war system

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per forum policy refrain from using said region guilds names please.

an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game designers.

Game designers have developed a tiered node system in which guilds are locked out from participating in lower tiered wars. This creates a atomosphere of fairness and lets lower tiered guilds progress. Region war guilds on NA have found a way of working around this mechanic. They all drop their region guilds and join their own alternate guilds so they can participate in wars they were locked out of before. Some of these guilds are in it for pure additional profit. Some of the guilds are there to give t3's to their ally guilds. One guild locked out an 50% of the t3 nodes this way by purposely throwing the war to give it to the allies.  These guilds are destroying the lower tier pvp.  Gms please take actions against these guilds.

 

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per forum policy refrain from using said region guilds names please.

an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game designers.

Game designers have developed a tiered node system in which guilds are locked out from participating in lower tiered wars. This creates a atomosphere of fairness and lets lower tiered guilds progress. Region war guilds on NA have found a way of working around this mechanic. They all drop their region guilds and join their own alternate guilds so they can participate in wars they were locked out of before. Some of these guilds are in it for pure additional profit. Some of the guilds are there to give t3's to their ally guilds. One guild locked out an 50% of the t3 nodes this way by purposely throwing the war to give it to the allies.  These guilds are destroying the lower tier pvp.  Gms please take actions against these guilds.

 

Its not an exploit to make another guild.

Its not an exploit to join said guild.

It's not an exploit to team up with other guilds.

It's not an exploit to lose on purpose for another guilds benefit.

 

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per forum policy refrain from using said region guilds names please.

an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game designers.

Game designers have developed a tiered node system in which guilds are locked out from participating in lower tiered wars. This creates a atomosphere of fairness and lets lower tiered guilds progress. Region war guilds on NA have found a way of working around this mechanic. They all drop their region guilds and join their own alternate guilds so they can participate in wars they were locked out of before. Some of these guilds are in it for pure additional profit. Some of the guilds are there to give t3's to their ally guilds. One guild locked out an 50% of the t3 nodes this way by purposely throwing the war to give it to the allies.  These guilds are destroying the lower tier pvp.  Gms please take actions against these guilds.

 

Agreed.
Having a siege guild hand off nodes destroys the whole point of node wars. To actually fight.

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Its not an exploit to make another guild.
Its not an exploit to join said guild.

It's not an exploit to team up with other guilds.

It's not an exploit to lose on purpose for another guilds benefit.

 

yes but it is an exploit to work around the intended node war system. If you win a region you are locked into the region. You are not allowed to partake in anything else. You are skirting the system by taking your guild and having everyone drop and join your alternate guild so you can win more pay outs.

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yes but it is an exploit to work around the intended node war system. If you win a region you are locked into the region. You are not allowed to partake in anything else. You are skirting the system by taking your guild and having everyone drop so you can win more pay outs.

Still not an exploit.

 

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an exploit is the use of bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game designer.

 

If it was intended by the designer there would be no restrictions on region guilds from dropping on t1,t2,t3 after winning a region. You guys are literally destroying the game.

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an exploit is the use of bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game designer.

 

If it was intended by the designer there would be no restrictions on region guilds from dropping on t1,t2,t3 after winning a region. You guys are literally destroying the game.

They are clearly aware that you can do that its still not an exploit.

They aren't going to punish people for it if thats what you want.  If they dont want it to be done they will change it to be account bound

 

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They are clearly aware that you can do that its still not an exploit.

They aren't going to punish people for it if thats what you want.  If they dont want it to be done they will change it to be account bound

 

let me get this right. You are argueing because there is a work around to an in game mechanic and you are using this work around to compete in node wars you should not be in that this is acceptable.

why would game designers have a lock out to region guilds in the first place? Your logic makes no sense.

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your using the wrong terminology

this is not an exploit

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your using the wrong terminology

this is not an exploit

an exploit is the use of bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game designer.

This would be a use of the game system by the player for advantages not intended by game designer.

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Its not an exploit, but it is horrible game mechanics 

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Its not an exploit, but it is horrible game mechanics 

That's what the shoveler's said when they logged onto their banned accounts.

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They just need to increase time penalty for leaving a guild that partake in node war. Problem easy solved.

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They just need to increase time penalty for leaving a guild that partake in node war. Problem easy solved.

I would agree. I think the publisher should come out with a broad warning to these guilds. Stop the exploiting until we can fix the problem. No bans/punishment. If they continue then punishment should happen.

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an exploit is the use of bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game designer.

This would be a use of the game system by the player for advantages not intended by game designer.

your using the wrong terminology

this is not an exploit

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ok. I will humor you. Lets pretend for a moment that this is not an exploit. How would classify this mechanic/work around?

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So many stupid people 

 

the term 'exploit' refers to any person or guild that is better than you 

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ok. I will humor you. Lets pretend for a moment that this is not an exploit. How would classify this mechanic/work around?

----- ass way to not bother fighting and/or make money while screwing up literally every other guild? Or how about - buncha kids not having actual balls to try and fight for once and just trade the nodes around like a hooker?

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It was a game designer flaw. The whole system needs to be scrapped and a new system needs to be put in. Current guild wars are only a few guilds and a few merc guilds that work for those guilds in exchange for assistance securing a node. It's dumb. It's not PvP, it's politics.

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It was a game designer flaw. The whole system needs to be scrapped and a new system needs to be put in. Current guild wars are only a few guilds and a few merc guilds that work for those guilds in exchange for assistance securing a node. It's dumb. It's not PvP, it's politics.

would you say people are using the game designer flaw to their advantage?

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would you say people are using the game designer flaw to their advantage?

Guild A promises guild B a tier 3 node in exchange for their support of securing a territory. Guild B builds a fort at the Tier 3 node. If you're in guild B and you get the message that your fort is being destroyed you're told by guild leadership to ignore it and that it's guild A trying to secure the territory. No PvP happens at all. Guild B gets a fat 750 mil paycheck.

This was not what the builders of this PvP system envisioned when they built it. Guilds are playing politics, getting fat paychecks and most of the time there isn't even a fight over the node itself.

Currently there are guilds that bypass guild B and just put their alts in an alt guild. This allows them to double dip on their paycheck. They disband it and go back to their main guild after collecting. Like stated above this is most certainly an exploit. I left my guild over it. I joined them for PvP, not political games. I put an alt account in another PvP guild to see if they were doing the same thing. Yup, sure enough. I disbanded that guild before even taking a cut of the taxes. It's cheating and I didn't want to get banned. From now on I'll stick to life skill guilds that want to occasionally PvP instead of PvP guilds that play stupid games and never PvP.

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Guild A promises guild B a tier 3 node in exchange for their support of securing a territory. Guild B builds a fort at the Tier 3 node. If you're in guild B and you get the message that your fort is being destroyed you're told by guild leadership to ignore it and that it's guild A trying to secure the territory. No PvP happens at all. Guild B gets a fat 750 mil paycheck.
This was not what the builders of this PvP system envisioned when they built it. Guilds are playing politics, getting fat paychecks and most of the time there isn't even a fight over the node itself.

actually there was a lot of pvp in t3's before the region guilds push all of them out to t2/t1. Now there is a domino effect that is pushing the other lowered tiers out of the t1's. Most guilds are happy to stay out of region wars to stay clear of the no life/dig exploiting/fishbotting mega guilds.

All because a few of the elite region guilds want to exploit the system.

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Seeing as how there is already a similar thread currently about the topic, and it is clear the primary goal of this new one is to spark arguments while skirting the edge of the forum rules, I'll be closing it. Please refrain from creating duplicate or similar threads when an active thread covering the topic is still ongoing.

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