• Announcements

    • IMPORTANT - REACH US IN THE NEW FORUM   05/04/2017

      Ladies and gentlemen ATTENTION please:
      It's time to move into a new house!
        As previously announced, from now on IT WON'T BE POSSIBLE TO CREATE THREADS OR REPLY in the old forums. From now on the old forums will be readable only. If you need to move/copy/migrate any post/material from here, feel free to contact the staff in the new home. We’ll be waiting for you in the NEW Forums!

      https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php

      *New features and amazing tools are waiting for you, even more is yet to come in the future.. just like world exploration in BDO leads to new possibilities.
      So don't be afraid about changes, click the link above and follow us!
      Enjoy and see you on the other side!  
    • WICHTIG: Das Forum ist umgezogen!   05/04/2017

      Damen und Herren, wir bitten um Eure Aufmerksamkeit, es ist an der Zeit umzuziehen!
        Wie wir bereits angekündigt hatten, ist es ab sofort nicht mehr möglich, neue Diskussionen in diesem Forum zu starten. Um Euch Zeit zu geben, laufende Diskussionen abzuschließen, könnt Ihr noch für zwei Wochen in offenen Diskussionen antworten. Danach geht dieses Forum hier in den Ruhestand und das NEUE FORUM übernimmt vollständig.
      Das Forum hier bleibt allerdings erhalten und lesbar.   Neue und verbesserte Funktionen warten auf Euch im neuen Forum und wir arbeiten bereits an weiteren Erweiterungen.
      Wir sehen uns auf der anderen Seite!

      https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php Update:
      Wie angekündigt könen ab sofort in diesem Forum auch keine neuen Beiträge mehr veröffentlicht werden.
    • IMPORTANT: Le nouveau forum   05/04/2017

      Aventurières, aventuriers, votre attention s'il vous plaît, il est grand temps de déménager!
      Comme nous vous l'avons déjà annoncé précédemment, il n'est désormais plus possible de créer de nouveau sujet ni de répondre aux anciens sur ce bon vieux forum.
      Venez visiter le nouveau forum!
      https://community.blackdesertonline.com
      De nouvelles fonctionnalités ainsi que de nouveaux outils vous attendent dès à présent et d'autres arriveront prochainement! N'ayez pas peur du changement et rejoignez-nous! Amusez-vous bien et a bientôt dans notre nouveau chez nous

Ninja seems subpar


11 posts in this topic

Posted

So I'm a pretty casual player and someone who likes to at try all the classes a bit. So far I've got a 56 wiz and am working on zerker and ninja. I've enjoyed wiz and zerker pre awakening and expect it to only get better. 

 Ninja looked fun but so far it hasn't been all that great. Maybe I'm just a terrible ninja but I feel like I'm using healing pots on cd. My dmg gets the job done but seems a lil underwhelming. It doesn't seem like it even has a niche thing that it can do better than others. It's just an extra class

My question being does ninja get a lot better after awakening in terms of ability and playstyle?

Any feedback is appreciated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

So I'm a pretty casual player and someone who likes to at try all the classes a bit. So far I've got a 56 wiz and am working on zerker and ninja. I've enjoyed wiz and zerker pre awakening and expect it to only get better. 

 Ninja looked fun but so far it hasn't been all that great. Maybe I'm just a terrible ninja but I feel like I'm using healing pots on cd. My dmg gets the job done but seems a lil underwhelming. It doesn't seem like it even has a niche thing that it can do better than others. It's just an extra class

My question being does ninja get a lot better after awakening in terms of ability and playstyle?

Any feedback is appreciated.

ninja can stealth, and their awak stealth lasts the full 20 sec w/o cd so it doesnt get better than that!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

So I'm a pretty casual player and someone who likes to at try all the classes a bit. So far I've got a 56 wiz and am working on zerker and ninja. I've enjoyed wiz and zerker pre awakening and expect it to only get better. 

 Ninja looked fun but so far it hasn't been all that great. Maybe I'm just a terrible ninja but I feel like I'm using healing pots on cd. My dmg gets the job done but seems a lil underwhelming. It doesn't seem like it even has a niche thing that it can do better than others. It's just an extra class

My question being does ninja get a lot better after awakening in terms of ability and playstyle?

Any feedback is appreciated.

Awakened ninja is much better. Ability-wise you get some hard hitting skills for PvE, one especially hard hitting skill for PvP, but you lack the amount of SA on offensive skills compared to other classes. You will most likely feel squishy unless you build DP to the high 200s. Playstyle-wise, you lose sideways mobility but gain damage. And in PvP you will be switching weapons often compared to other classes.

The playstyle compared to wiz is much different. If you like wiz, you may not like ninja.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

 

When I first started playing ninja it was super easy.  Then post 50 it started to seem a little underwhelming, yeah.  Then i realized I was being terrible.  Ninja between 50-56 relies heavily on killing knocked down opponents.  If you are fighting mobs that can't be put on their back, or cannot be knocked down reliably, your damage will seem subpar.

Conversly, when you DO knockdown enemies, they tend to die very immediately.  Hope that helps.

Edited by Alrikmerc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

ninja is pretty bad at pve, so farming with it bores to death. the class shines when it comes to pk and 1vX

ninja is pretty bad at pve, so farming with it bores to death. the class shines when it comes to pk and 1vX

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

 

When I first started playing ninja it was super easy.  Then post 50 it started to seem a little underwhelming, yeah.  Then i realized I was being terrible.  Ninja between 50-56 relies heavily on killing knocked down opponents.  If you are fighting mobs that can't be put on their back, or cannot be knocked down reliably, your damage will seem subpar.

Conversly, when you DO knockdown enemies, they tend to die very immediately.  Hope that helps.

With good timing and positioning you can still get behind the mobs for that x1.5 though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

With good timing and positioning you can still get behind the mobs for that x1.5 though.

That's true.  Getting back attacks is good.  Though down attacks tend to get the best results with most of our AoE skills, i've noticed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Problem with ninja grinding is, you play like its PvP all the time. if you dont, you will lack insane damage, rendering your grind 50% useful compared to fully active, getting back attack, always using serpent on stance for most dmg, IMO. I mean i have close to 190 ap, and if i dont play hard core, i wont be able to grind pirates properly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Problem with ninja grinding is, you play like its PvP all the time. if you dont, you will lack insane damage, rendering your grind 50% useful compared to fully active, getting back attack, always using serpent on stance for most dmg, IMO. I mean i have close to 190 ap, and if i dont play hard core, i wont be able to grind pirates properly.

but when that player appears you will be prepared! Never underestimate the beast from the slums, for he is hardened by rough environment!

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I can be hardened, but if im worn out, i cant do shit.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I can be hardened, but if im worn out, i cant do shit.

then run some more and level your stamina?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites