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Ultimate Echo Pierce

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So, who is going to be a brave pioneer and test this out for us? :D

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test what exactly?

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I am going to test it out right now

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There is Already a Guy in korea that have made a video about it. 

 

Linking it here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX-OLg86FzA

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Well as I have tested in PVP its approximately a 30% damage increase. Seems viable since I slim to none use the rear poke except in PVE.

 

Grab still bugged tho... /cry and LBP CD still iffy >.>

 

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Well as I have tested in PVP its approximately a 30% damage increase. Seems viable since I slim to none use the rear poke except in PVE.

 

Grab still bugged tho... /cry and LBP CD still iffy >.>

 

I hear the LBP reuse thing is a server issue, swapping channels usually fixes it.  Though I only really see the effect when I'm WW dashing with it.

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c ya later long void combo...t-t hello new and powerful echo peirce ^^

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Skill description is different to KR.  Ult echo = 6x 540%

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you can get more dmg if perfectly positioned normal echo, 

ult echo is too slow to be good and the range increase is too small for it to be relevant

 

its awesome for pve (the best thing ever) but for pvp so far i'm leaning towards old echo cus i can't really see anything this echo is good for 

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you can get more dmg if perfectly positioned normal echo, 

ult echo is too slow to be good and the range increase is too small for it to be relevant

 

its awesome for pve (the best thing ever) but for pvp so far i'm leaning towards old echo cus i can't really see anything this echo is good for 

Yeah, it feels really slow and you're stationary far longer with the new one :(

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Yeah, it feels really slow and you're stationary far longer with the new one :(

you can get more dmg if perfectly positioned normal echo, 

ult echo is too slow to be good and the range increase is too small for it to be relevant

 

its awesome for pve (the best thing ever) but for pvp so far i'm leaning towards old echo cus i can't really see anything this echo is good for 

It is good that you can lock and unlock it , so it is up to everyone to decide if they like it or not :)

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It is good that you can lock and unlock it , so it is up to everyone to decide if they like it or not :)

Yeah except locking it is to accept lower damage. One of my favourite applications pre-patch PvE was echo pierce into black turtle into flow: intimidation. With Ult Echo Pierce enabled it is a lot harder to flow into Black Turtle because that 2nd hit interrupts. It just doesn't flow well enough.

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Yeah except locking it is to accept lower damage. One of my favourite applications pre-patch PvE was echo pierce into black turtle into flow: intimidation. With Ult Echo Pierce enabled it is a lot harder to flow into Black Turtle because that 2nd hit interrupts. It just doesn't flow well enough.

It flows the exact same. The only thing that has changed was the location and size of the second hit. Looks can be deceiving.

 

Edited by Kentigem

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Pre~move... This move SA sucks and and never works because its too short..

After... My god this move sucks because it last too long...

No matter what theres going to be whinners

 

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It flows the exact same. The only thing that has changed was the location and size of the second hit. Looks can be deceiving.

 

The first thing I tested was the speed it is definitely slower. But not in a bad way at least for me. The moveset I use came more precise with the ultimate echo than with normal one :)

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Can the ultimate version be cancelled out of? Because sometimes it's hard to tell if the 2nd hit has landed and I'm worried I'm accidentally cancelling the 2nd hit.

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So if you aren't capping attack speed the ultimate echo takes forever and is super clunky.

I swap helmets for pve, with without boss set bonus I had to start using attack speed food or my kill speed suffers so much the extra 20% exp doesn't seem worth it.

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I've got 5 atk speed and still find it a bit clunky. I got used to it after a little while but for pvp I am certainly worried the flow isn't as smooth (i.e quick) as previous.

 

Mind you, I'm currently running around with duo armour and duo awakening after a TET roullette session so I'm not seeing the full dmg improvements which may be more persuasive :P

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I've got 5 atk speed and still find it a bit clunky. I got used to it after a little while but for pvp I am certainly worried the flow isn't as smooth (i.e quick) as previous.

 

Mind you, I'm currently running around with duo armour and duo awakening after a TET roullette session so I'm not seeing the full dmg improvements which may be more persuasive :P

same happened to me, haha.

 there are some ninja who propose that attack speed doesn't actually cap at 5, but really around 8, maybe their base attack speed buff has something to so with that.

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The first thing I tested was the speed it is definitely slower. But not in a bad way at least for me. The moveset I use came more precise with the ultimate echo than with normal one :)

Is it slower, or have you always been cancelling the second hit of the normal version?

I've only tested it on 5 attack speed

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I've used it its good it pwns people give it a try

 

I'm gonna keep it

 

 

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