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Update : Eu mem market improvement

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I dont give a shit what you averaged for over 1,000 hours, I literally just did what I'd consider an incredible succesful grind at Crescents for an hour and got 2.

Crescents is almost as bad as bashims for scrolls, I'd say cry cadries or bandits.

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Do you guys want an increased drop rate or something? 

i'd like an overhaul if the whole mem frag thing, its pretty bs and item degradetion be gone, yeah that'd be nice.

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LOL

I just knew this day would come for NA. KRJPRU were like this long long time ago, welcome to hell boys.

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Damn... Not enough fishbots...

I started a character on the EU servers and the shore lines are a lot cleaner but what I noticed is the Ancient relic crystal shards don't drop in the loot table either. Not like they do in NA server spots.

An hour on any given 49 lock character on NA (depending on the class I want to play around with that day) I can get 3 or 4 of these in a number of spots. Using the same regiments on the EU I have gotten 1 Ancient relic crystal shard after around 5 hours. Other items drop at around the same rate but the crystal shard difference is huge. The only other thing I know is different from NA to EU is I have overkill luck on NA side with 9 points of luck possible from all gear. I don't think I have any on EU.

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I started a character on the EU servers and the shore lines are a lot cleaner but what I noticed is the Ancient relic crystal shards don't drop in the loot table either. Not like they do in NA server spots.

An hour on any given 49 lock character on NA (depending on the class I want to play around with that day) I can get 3 or 4 of these in a number of spots. Using the same regiments on the EU I have gotten 1 Ancient relic crystal shard after around 5 hours. Other items drop at around the same rate but the crystal shard difference is huge. The only other thing I know is different from NA to EU is I have overkill luck on NA side with 9 points of luck possible from all gear. I don't think I have any on EU.

1 test isn't NEARLY enough... You need hundreds in the same parameters to test something like this.

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This is what happens when you think Acc/Eva builds beat AP builds.

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wow so everything is sold out? that must be because the game is dead and there are no players

if memory fragments were listed at min price and nobody bought them it would be a sign of a healthy player population

how do you not forget to breathe?

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Crescents is almost as bad as bashims for scrolls, I'd say cry cadries or bandits.

So it's not, in fact, "all of valencia" as I was promised, but in reality 1 or 2 spots.

Gotcha.

And this is supposed to be ok?

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I haven't bough a single scroll in ages, all from grinding. Without events blackstones are a bit harder to come by, hence I grind a bit harder during BS events!

If you stay at casual level with tri gear it's understandable that you never bought bought scroll. 

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Lol.... Stay ahead of the curve fellas and sell your soul to relics.

 

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All those useless arguments saying to get those relics yourself. Like its possible, if you aim for TET and literally need thousands of fragments and also hundreds of hard sharps and so on. You can't get them all yourself unless you aim for having full TET by the end of 2020.

But according the the posts some of you also get your own Margoria Food, Beer, Farms, Elixirs and whatnot at the same time you already need to acquire those 10000+++ fragments. Seems like some people are just supernatural beings.

I for example am Master 17 cooking and crafted like 50k+ bufffoods which I sell. So other people that have never cooked before can simply buy them without ever having to invest time into that. And as Im a high level in cooking and have thousands of mats and min cooking time Im more efficient than most of the other players crafting them. So I rely on certain other things for example being able to buy pepper or garlic or whatever, since I simply dont have the time to also do that. Same as a horsetrainer relies on relics from ah as he doesn't continually fishs them afk.

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All those useless arguments saying to get those relics yourself. Like its possible, if you aim for TET and literally need thousands of fragments and also hundreds of hard sharps and so on. You can't get them all yourself unless you aim for having full TET by the end of 2020.

But according the the posts some of you also get your own Margoria Food, Beer, Farms, Elixirs and whatnot at the same time you already need to acquire those 10000+++ fragments. Seems like some people are just supernatural beings.

I for example am Master 17 cooking and crafted like 50k+ bufffoods which I sell. So other people that have never cooked before can simply buy them without ever having to invest time into that. And as Im a high level in cooking and have thousands of mats and min cooking time Im more efficient than most of the other players crafting them. So I rely on certain other things for example being able to buy pepper or garlic or whatever, since I simply dont have the time to also do that. Same as a horsetrainer relies on relics from ah as he doesn't continually fishs them afk.

 


Bruh..... All you really need in this game is Beer, Memory frags and Black stones.... Cut the fat and streamline progression.

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Bruh..... All you really need in this game is Beer, Memory frags and Black stones.... Cut the fat and streamline progression.

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What exactly are you attempting to prove by linking a screenshot showing more relic scrolls than you can personally get in a week when they expire unless you go 100% out of your way to grind Manshas and/or actively fish for 20 hours a day?

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So I rely on certain other things for example being able to buy pepper or garlic or whatever, since I simply dont have the time to also do that.

So what do you do when there's no pepper or garlic to be bought, start crying on the forums that the economy is broken...or just grow your own? 

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Now imagine multiplying that with the "unlimited" artisans memory from the pearl store. Just a shame that he cannot actually do it because he lacks the necessarily (real-life) income.

So much for artisan memories being the p2w of the game, right.

#successful-hijack

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I wish i could stop spending blackstones on shitty reblath/grunil

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I started a character on the EU servers and the shore lines are a lot cleaner but what I noticed is the Ancient relic crystal shards don't drop in the loot table either. Not like they do in NA server spots.

An hour on any given 49 lock character on NA (depending on the class I want to play around with that day) I can get 3 or 4 of these in a number of spots. Using the same regiments on the EU I have gotten 1 Ancient relic crystal shard after around 5 hours. Other items drop at around the same rate but the crystal shard difference is huge. The only other thing I know is different from NA to EU is I have overkill luck on NA side with 9 points of luck possible from all gear. I don't think I have any on EU.

1 test isn't NEARLY enough... You need hundreds in the same parameters to test something like this.

I average an hour a run so it was 5 tests and I'm not here to prove the existence of the space time continuum. I just take mental note of patterns. Every thing I say is anecdotal, it's what I have to work with. Most stuff in BDO is server side, hidden and always changing so anyone pretending they have 'proof' is blowing smoke out of their ass.

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Bruh..... All you really need in this game is Beer, Memory frags and Black stones.... Cut the fat and streamline progression.

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And I'm sure you also have several hundred selfmade Elixirs, Bufffood, T8 Coursers and all your Gear is 100% farmed by yourself(in example like 50+ Ogre Rings to get it TRI), since you don't rely on the market. I don't really know what it is so hard to admit that we all rely on the market in some way. It's almost impossible to grind the amount of accessories you need to go for TRI or TET yourself. At least I dont know people that farmed like 100 Crescents 50 Basibelts 50 Ogre Rings and so on themself to have at least a good chance getting it TRI. Most people with TRI or TET Ogre I know bought DUO and tried TRI and then TET. None of them actually farmed even 5 Ogres themself.

What does your beer prove? I have had like ten times this amount, but I sell everything above a certain point, since I mainly cook for CP and there is no reason to sit on 100k+ beer when even my 99 workers only use up to 2k per day depending on how often I can reset them.

Also what's the point sitting on 5k mems? Show us your gear please.

So what do you do when there's no pepper or garlic to be bought, start crying on the forums that the economy is broken...or just grow your own? 

I wait until I can/look for those things once in a while to have them stocked or simply craft a different Bufffood as I will not go through the pain of swapping out parts of  my 99 worker-empire that uses up all my 319CP to set up farms.

Also I don't have the time to do farms everyday as I already gather sheeps for 480-680 energy a day to get at least a decent amount of hards and sharps(and need the meat for cooking), which still aren't enough to actually enchant to TET in a decent amount of time. I'm now trying to get anything to TET for 8 weeks only using the hards and sharps I gathered myself. I have 18 TET-fails and no piece actually TET and now I sit at below 5 hards/sharps. Just doing those about 1500 gathers every day takes a lot of time and on some days you only get 1 or 2 shards out of it. If you are with a job and household tasks and have like 2-3 hours a day to actively invest into this game you will have a lot of afk money, but not the time to farm just about everything yourself. So of course you will buy certain things with the money you have.

I dont cry about the economy, but saying you can do all of the dozens of tasks you have in this game by yourself in a reasonable amount of time just isn't true. Other people can do tasks faster than you because of a higher level or better lifeskill clothes. Its just not effective for someone with 4 or 5 sec cooking time to cook beer himself as people who are cooking all the time only need 1 sec.

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I will get hate for this, but NA market much resembles NA lifestyle itself: A lot of ppl being lazy and just trying to get items the fast way rather working for them. The difference between EU and NA market is huge. Both have flaws, but seems like EU region is lot more active specifically for these products.

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What exactly are you attempting to prove by linking a screenshot showing more relic scrolls than you can personally get in a week when they expire unless you go 100% out of your way to grind Manshas and/or actively fish for 20 hours a day?

you can just buy relics off the market.... But I didn't know the this forum post transition to being an argument about "Not needing to use the market" i'm sorry lol. 

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So it's not, in fact, "all of valencia" as I was promised, but in reality 1 or 2 spots.

Gotcha.

And this is supposed to be ok?

Opposite, all of valencia except the 2 spots you chose to farm (which are known to be the lowest income/shitty drop places of valencia)

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Now imagine multiplying that with the "unlimited" artisans memory from the pearl store. Just a shame that he cannot actually do it because he lacks the necessarily (real-life) income.

So much for artisan memories being the p2w of the game, right.

#successful-hijack

just one hour a day for a month doing just relics and like not selling it. But you still caught me with the no lifeing lol. I'm deeply depressed on the inside

And I'm sure you also have several hundred selfmade Elixirs, Bufffood, T8 Coursers and all your Gear is 100% farmed by yourself(in example like 50+ Ogre Rings to get it TRI), since you don't rely on the market. I don't really know what it is so hard to admit that we all rely on the market in some way. It's almost impossible to grind the amount of accessories you need to go for TRI or TET yourself. At least I dont know people that farmed like 100 Crescents 50 Basibelts 50 Ogre Rings and so on themself to have at least a good chance getting it TRI. Most people with TRI or TET Ogre I know bought DUO and tried TRI and then TET. None of them actually farmed even 5 Ogres themself.

What does your beer prove? I have had like ten times this amount, but I sell everything above a certain point, since I mainly cook for CP and there is no reason to sit on 100k+ beer when even my 99 workers only use up to 2k per day depending on how often I can reset them.

Also what's the point sitting on 5k mems? Show us your gear please.

I wait until I can/look for those things once in a while to have them stocked or simply craft a different Bufffood as I will not go through the pain of swapping out parts of  my 99 worker-empire that uses up all my 319CP to set up farms.

Also I don't have the time to do farms everyday as I already gather sheeps for 480-680 energy a day to get at least a decent amount of hards and sharps(and need the meat for cooking), which still aren't enough to actually enchant to TET in a decent amount of time. I'm now trying to get anything to TET for 8 weeks only using the hards and sharps I gathered myself. I have 18 TET-fails and no piece actually TET and now I sit at below 5 hards/sharps. Just doing those about 1500 gathers every day takes a lot of time and on some days you only get 1 or 2 shards out of it. If you are with a job and household tasks and have like 2-3 hours a day to actively invest into this game you will have a lot of afk money, but not the time to farm just about everything yourself. So of course you will buy certain things with the money you have.

I dont cry about the economy, but saying you can do all of the dozens of tasks you have in this game by yourself in a reasonable amount of time just isn't true. Other people can do tasks faster than you because of a higher level or better lifeskill clothes. Its just not effective for someone with 4 or 5 sec cooking time to cook beer himself as people who are cooking all the time only need 1 sec.

i'll screenshot it for you once I get back from seeing my therapist.

Selling black stones and Mem frags for pearls lol... Since most if you too "busy" to do it yourself. 

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Artisian memory should be a node. That your workers farm. lol

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you can just buy relics off the market.... But I didn't know the this forum post transition to being an argument about "Not needing to use the market" i'm sorry lol. 

Did you LOOK at the first post in the thread?

I'm guessing that's a resounding "----- no"?

Opposite, all of valencia except the 2 spots you chose to farm (which are known to be the lowest income/shitty drop places of valencia)

It's like you think all I've done in Valencia is Crescents and Bashims.

It doesn't matter where I go in Valencia, I'm not *CONSISTENTLY* pulling 4-5 scrolls an hour. I don't know anyone who does.

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Did you LOOK at the first post in the thread?

I'm guessing that's a resounding "----- no"?

It's like you think all I've done in Valencia is Crescents and Bashims.

It doesn't matter where I go in Valencia, I'm not *CONSISTENTLY* pulling 4-5 scrolls an hour. I don't know anyone who does.

The first post in the thread is just a screen shot of the market being empty of Mem frags.... So I responded with a Photo of my mems, Black stones and beer along with a photo of what I do to get those things. ''Relics'' that I bought from the market. I mean; what was your understanding of the first post in the thread? 

Edit- Lololol There were no Relics on the market!! I whoops I missed that part lol sorry haha

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