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just confirm F2P

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-i mean you spread out 5€ saleevents like sick, i cant immense you earn the big money with it.
-F2P means more money from cashshop, whats the real moneyprinter for you.
-the community is alrdy absolut garbage like in every other F2P Game, so it wont be worse
-the servers are alrdy absolut garbage.....

there are no reasons to not change the game to F2P...

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-i mean you spread out 5€ saleevents like sick, i cant immense you earn the big money with it.
-F2P means more money from cashshop, whats the real moneyprinter for you.
-the community is alrdy absolut garbage like in every other F2P Game, so it wont be worse
-the servers are alrdy absolut garbage.....

there are no reasons to not change the game to F2P...

Bots.

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Bots.

alrdy there

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BD is just another cancerous P2W trash masquerading as a P2P from the initial purchase and some free candy at the beginning. Their shady dual currency system and rng trash should be ilegal or taxed as a gambling service. The publisher staff should be jailed imo.

Kakao's revenue for 2016: $1.3 billion.

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-F2P means more money from cashshop, whats the real moneyprinter for you.

How? Is there a real analysis behind that? Because I don't understand how the players who can't be bothered paying $10 will bring money.

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BD is just another cancerous P2W trash masquerading as a P2P from the initial purchase and some free candy at the beginning. Their shady dual currency system and rng trash should be ilegal or taxed as a gambling service.

Kakao's revenus for 2016: $1.3 billion.

There is a problem with your statement: Is it raw income, brut income, all charge deduced income?

Because if we only use my raw income, I should be millionaire already...

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-F2P means more money from cashshop, whats the real moneyprinter for you.

Not with these prices... Your "argument" is invalid...

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How? Is there a real analysis behind that? Because I don't understand how the players who can't be bothered paying $10 will bring money.

yes thousand analysis are made since every dieng MMO is switching to F2P to stay alive anyhow.

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yes thousand analysis are made since every dieng MMO is switching to F2P to stay alive anyhow.

And of those F2P models, how many are successful exactly and have a similar system as BDO?

Let's apply the same system of a FPS in a RPG, everything will be alright! /s

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And of those F2P models, how many are successful exactly and have a similar system as BDO?

wait i cant remember my mother gave me the name: google 

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BD is just another cancerous P2W trash masquerading as a P2P from the initial purchase and some free candy at the beginning. Their shady dual currency system and rng trash should be ilegal or taxed as a gambling service. The publisher staff should be jailed imo.

1) Why are you still here if it's trash?

2) Game isn't P2W, not even close

3) Dual currency isn't shady, many MMOs do this to stop people like yourself getting upset after 6 months of playing and charging back their cash. If they were shady they wouldn't offer a 72 hour period where you can change the cash shop items you buy (as long as you don't use them) if you make a mistake and a 14 day refund period if you don't open the pearl box. It's called following the law.

4) There's no gambling, what you pay for is what you get.

Kakao's revenue for 2016: $1.3 billion.

They are also a huge company that has other sectors, you're crying about one Xbox game being bad and then pointing to the fact that Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar company as some form of justification. Here comes the insult riddled reply. :) 

How? Is there a real analysis behind that? Because I don't understand how the players who can't be bothered paying $10 will bring money.

When you go F2P you no longer have a reliable source of income through subscriptions or game purchases, so you have to change the cash shop to make it more enticing for people to spend money. The best way to do this is to make the cash shop P2W, a lot of players may complain but more than enough will want to buy the power to make the gamer profitable. The difficulty is keeping enough players in the game with this change to still make it a lively game. A person's much more likely to spend $10 if it means they have an edge over other players than to spend $10 and be on the same level as everyone else. 

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wait i cant remember my mother gave me the name: google 

So you're implying that it's me, someone who is saying the contrary, have to search to prove the point of the opposed idea?

Do you even debate, nup?

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So you're implying that it's me, someone who is saying the contrary, have to search to prove the point of the opposed idea?

yes coz u WANT the info, so search for it. you have to prove your point since nobody needs to prove about facts.

Do you even debate, nup?

if there is a point

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yes coz u WANT the info, so search for it. you have to prove your point since nobody needs to prove about facts.

if there is a point

 

Apparently there is for you: You want to prove that Black Desert Online should have a free to play model.

Since when a comment stating no source is an established fact btw? Cuz for me, tis simply a theory unless data proves it.

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Apparently there is for you: You want to prove that Black Desert Online should have a free to play model.

Since when a comment stating no source is an established fact btw? Cuz for me, tis simply a theory unless data proves it.

maybe its a theory coz u cant prove a thing thats not real #lel

You want to prove that Black Desert Online should have a free to play model.

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maybe its a theory coz u cant prove a thing thats not real #lel

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So, you don't want it then?

Why make this thread insisting you want it and then backing out of it saying you don't want it anymore? :D

At least try to be more of a challenge.

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it IS a f2p p2w trash, the 10 euro purchase can hardly be called P2P

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i wont be a challange for anyone whos challaged in reading maybe. i rather would have some real minds going on here instead of a kawaii dreadqueen rotating on useless words

eh, now you're resulting to insults to prove your claims?

We're hitting a new.... wait, no, that's usual around here.

Btw, you want it, or you want it not? Make yourself clear about what you want, at the moment, you looks like trying to obtain sweets from its parents.

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Let me tell you something about this "P2W" subject. I'm pretty sure most people just defend the game to hide the fact they payed so much money to be able to enjoy this game. Try to play without pets, inventory slots and weight limit. Your argument most of the times is that "oh, get yourself a pet, its like a 10er", exactly, it costs me money and that is of course not the definition of pay2win, that's pay2convenience, right? Or for example the horse skill resets, if I have a trash T8 and you have a trash T8 with around I don't know, 150 euro to spend on the resets, you can just go ahead and have yourself a courser, but if I want a courser without paying money, I'll need to breed horses and spend weeks, months. Yes, that's totally not pay2win, why would it be? What about artisan memory, I know, it's not really a big deal, but it gives you 3 times more resources for enchanting, nope, still not pay2win. The other argument I love is that "other games are even more pay2win", so if I fail an exam with a 39% result and John Doe fails with a 15% result, is that going to change the fact that I failed, is that supposed to make me feel better? These are facts, you either live with it or leave the game. While I was playing Black Desert, I had no problem with this aspect of the game, but I'm happy I changed over to WoW at least they are not bullshitting with that "p2w", they let you buy gold for a very reasonable price... Seeing people sill don't understand or DON'T WANT TO understand is just ridiculous. 

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are you guys really taking seriously someone with a "BUFF WITCHES" avatar?

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Try to play without pets,

Events, mileage

inventory slots

quests and loyalties

and weight limit

 

loyalties and lifeskill(or w/e it is called...)

Next?

And for the rest of your post... Actually AM are the biggest offender of p2w we have... Costume selling is limited, horses are terrible income even with resets, but AM allows you to profit of garbage like Liverto without any limits (well until you play on EU currently and cant even buy one blackstone... but it used to be free cash-silver exchange) Valks cry would be better than AM...

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Events, mileage

sure, get me 4 T4 pets from events

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sure, get me 4 T4 pets from events

What about full PEN gear as attendance as well? Even buyers cant get 4 T4 with this shitty RNG, so no reason for free T4s...

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Events, mileage

quests and loyalties

 

loyalties and lifeskill(or w/e it is called...)

Next?

And for the rest of your post... Actually AM are the biggest offender of p2w we have... Costume selling is limited, horses are terrible income even with resets, but AM allows you to profit of garbage like Liverto without any limits (well until you play on EU currently and cant even buy one blackstone... but it used to be free cash-silver exchange) Valks cry would be better than AM...

Blind white knight post :)

The game is not p2w. it's very expensive, but not "p2w".  But you "have to" pay pets, buy inventory slot, weight limits.Loyalty and questing are very limited sources of this "elements". If you want to be the best in one thing you have to pay more: pay2ganking and win more in PvP, pay2be  in the top of life skills, pay2be effective in marketplace selling and in "logistic". If you pay more you can spend more energy: more character, RM bed (amity game, node upgrades or night vendor gamble). If you pay more you get more in high-end enchants too (more repairs). But you see the right. This is not p2w. After your first 2-400 euros you don't have to buy more items. Dozens of maids, T4 pets, doubled breeding, horse skill reset and +100 million silvers are only cosmetic changes and not gamebreakers or p2w things.

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-i mean you spread out 5€ saleevents like sick, i cant immense you earn the big money with it.
-F2P means more money from cashshop, whats the real moneyprinter for you.
-the community is alrdy absolut garbage like in every other F2P Game, so it wont be worse
-the servers are alrdy absolut garbage.....

there are no reasons to not change the game to F2P...

Well,I hope they don,t change for f2p.If u don,t like game and u complain like old woman just stop playing simple answer

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