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Black Desert comes out on Steam!

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& spots taken everywhere

 

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They look how to milk new players but still do nothing for the game

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They look how to milk new players but still do nothing for the game

Aye i agree, and i don't like MMO's making their way throught steam.... usually comes a "F2P" model after and full P2W features....

I don't want this game to be killed now... but i guess the choice is already made. (long ago i bet)

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i wonder what item they would dangle to get new players and current players to restart on steam. I know in dfo it was some limited edition aura that had whales in a uproar.

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lol. cant even link to steam. guess they'd have to accurately reveal how many peeps actually play the game if they did xD

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dont worry, it wont catch on if this lag is the first thing the new influx of players experience 

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Thats lame as hell!  I mean I like steam fine and all but no way in hell I'm starting over lol.  Why cant we just use our current accounts on the steam version?  I dont even mind paying for the game again, but I'm not forfeiting literally like 320 days worth of playtime...  GTFO here with that nonsense.

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This game is a cash shop casino.  They got lucky on no other big MMOs out atm.  CF/CU etc. taking max time to develop.

Stop giving these guys money until they start putting in content and fix the lag.

 

 

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So... It will be separate server or what? If it wont lag as much as ours, RIP Kakao EU...

Pre-existing Black Desert Online accounts created from methods other than Steam will not be able to play via Steam.

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 and full P2W features....

 

we have thoses crap "p2w" features since a while tho...

 

Pre-existing Black Desert Online accounts created from methods other than Steam will not be able to play via Steam

 

The way they wrote that is indeed pretty confusing about what that really mean

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So... It will be separate server or what? If it wont lag as much as ours, RIP Kakao EU...

I don't think it means different servers, just that if you don't pay for the client via steam, you can't download the client via steam.  (therefore, cant play via steam)

But they also say you have to make a new account, which is extra puzzling. However, still may all be same server...either way oh wells  RIP.  Don't really have the support we need now, can't imagine it gets better.

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we have thoses crap "p2w" features since a while tho...

True but not as bad as KR where you got Boss Boxes for sale.

P2W is "acceptable" (tho i think it made a lot of good ppl leave back then) as long as it dosen't become a need.

But frankly, going full TET + 61 without Arti Mems, well.... have fun trying competing with 0 money....

I just want them to stop adding "P2W little convenience" things, but i know it's a lost cause already.

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True but not as bad as KR where you got Boss Boxes for sale.

P2W is "acceptable" (tho i think it made a lot of good ppl leave back then) as long as it dosen't become a need.

whatever if its not "as bad as kr" its still not acceptable because the game still is heavyly walled behind RNG to """strongly motivate players""" to use the cash shop.

+ since the game is designed around the rng & cash shop shortcut, for all the p2w sh#t we dont have, thoses guys didnt even "balanced" the game, meaning "our version" is even more a pain in the #ss at some point.

Note : I do not mean we should have all p2w crap, but they should balance more the game for "our market"

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Maybe this will get the game the exposure it needs for people to complain about the real issues.. Nah, I'm just kidding. A lot of those guys won't even leave Olvia and won't see the issues.

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whatever if its not "as bad as kr" its still not acceptable because the game still is heavyly walled behind RNG to """strongly motivate players""" to use the cash shop.

+ since the game is designed around the rng & cash shop shortcut, for all the p2w sh#t we dont have, thoses guys didnt even "balanced" the game, meaning "our version" is even more a pain in the #ss at some point.

Unfortunately yes, but the current Customer base makes it work and accept it, for how long tho....

If every player had stopped playing when the Value damm Pack was released well.... maybe that would have changed it a bit, but again, i'm just dreaming.

I'll remember their: "Convenience asset" maketing plan, it worked wonders at first.

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Unfortunately yes, but the current Customer base makes it work and accept it, for how long tho....

If every player had stopped playing when the Value damm Pack was released well.... maybe that would have changed it a bit, but again, i'm just dreaming.

I'll remember their: "Convenience asset" maketing plan, it worked wonders at first.

yeah and saddly that kind of "buisiness" model also attract credit card warrior ready to pay to be better than other ingame... That indeed doesnt help to have a clean buisiness like some other games

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yeah and saddly that kind of "buisiness" model also attract credit card warrior ready to pay to be better than other ingame... That indeed doesnt help to have a clean buisiness like some other games

I don't think there's a "clean" game nowadays, money pleases them too much (MMO's companies) these days.

I miss vanilla versions without Cash Shop and only craftable costumes.

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I don't think there's a "clean" game nowadays, money pleases them too much (MMO's companies) these days.

I miss vanilla versions without Cash Shop and only craftable costumes.

GW2 have a pretty clean buisiness with the cash shop.  You are milked hard only if you look to get cash shop 100% skin ( not saying the game do provide a fair amount of customization ability +  free dye )

the rest of the cash shop is really convenience ( and not VERY borderline p2w "convenience" like in BDO )

+ if you farm gold ( ingame currency ) enough in the game you can convert that into cash shop currency and get anything you want.. so... yeah.

 

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GW2

 

Thing is... i don't like GW2, i wanted BDO to be "that" game.

Next MMO maybe.

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Thing is... i don't like GW2, i wanted BDO to be "that" game.

Next MMO maybe.

that's another topic, but, it do show there is "clean" buisiness ;)

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that's another topic, but, it do show there is "clean" buisiness ;)

Others should do the same, money makes them create hype around a game that will last 3 years then trashed like a can to make space for the next milking hyped machine....

Great market guys, no wonder why the genre is dying, they destroyed the core with money, core being comittement and time.

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lol the P2W cry again. 

Should we start talking about the hundreds of players who managed to get to decent 180+/250+ (even encountered a 230/300 level 59) without ever using the cash shop? or nah those people dont exists, that you cant become strong without spending cash in this game 

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@OP It might be good since its going to expand the population, but its also bad because its  going to expand the population. Lagging and more competitiveness will happen, thats for sure.

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lol the P2W cry again. 

Should we start talking about the hundreds of players who managed to get to decent 180+/250+ (even encountered a 230/300 level 59) without ever using the cash shop? or nah those people dont exists, that you cant become strong without spending cash in this game 

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@OP It might be good since its going to expand the population, but its also bad because its  going to expand the population. Lagging and more competitiveness will happen, thats for sure.

No need to panic, just "karma bomb" them and watch them stumble over each other trying to post angrily on steam hub. You can also alternatively PK/war dec them on sight, carebears and pvp dark lords together hand in hand join forces for the cause. 1.0

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lol the P2W cry again. 

Should we start talking about the hundreds of players who managed to get to decent 180+/250+ (even encountered a 230/300 level 59) without ever using the cash shop? or nah those people dont exists, that you cant become strong without spending cash in this game 

And they'll remain mid-tier players.

Good luck against good guilds with your mid tier squad bro. Can't wait to see them leave.

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