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A few changes that would enhance immersion.


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Firstly I would like to address some thoughts that I know many others share and which has been posted about before but it cannot be stressed enough so I'll mention it here again. The most important of the changes I will suggest and really hope get through, as a warrior I know the pain all to well and that is the ridiculously exaggerated warrior running animation. The normal run animation is absolutely hideous to the eye.  When playing it feels like you cant relax playing a warrior and or any other class who uses the same animation simply because he doesnt run. The animation is not a running animation, it's a sprinting animation and it looks bad simply due to the fact that the guy never slows down or takes it even slightly easy, it puts you in the mindset of how exhausting it looks to constantly see it. It would be much better to simply have a fairly neutral running animation for the run and just simply keep the sprinting animations for the actual sprint. 

Secondly I will address the problem with the capes. It's sad to see when a game has so fantastic and beautiful capes like these in black desert online and they get ruined by the fact that Daum hasn't made it work together with actually having weapons. Seriously if we're going to get to have cloaks make it right so that the cloak doesn't just magically pop out of existence as soon as you sheathe the weapons, it should keep showing even when the weapons are sheathed on the back, not disappear. I think I'm not the only one when I say I would like to see this changed. Archeage had the same incredibly annoying issue and these small details may seem small but it is the small details that matter most. Something like this is incredibly bothersome and earns a game quite a few minus points.

Thirdly I want to address the fact that we cannot actually undress into our undies wherever we want. This is just ridiculous, while such a function holds little actual value for any real purpose it's still a freedom players want. It's especially hypocritical to have this feature locked/restricted when they actually sell underwear in the cash shop. People pay real money for these, and then they cant even show them when they want. That's not right. It's also an unnecessary restriction for a game that is for those of ages 16+. So the game should then be adjusted for that crowd and I can assure you there are next to no sixteen year old that hasn't seen or cant handle or even often sees women/men in underwear. If the game was for audiences around 13 or otherwise early teens then it would be more understandable but since it isn't then it should not have restrictions that are suited to crowds of those ages either. It's a bit insulting that we're being treated like children like that and quite annoying that we're robbed of such a simple freedom. 

Being able to take your armor on only in your own home is not good enough, and it's not only for the sake of the freedom of choise but also for the roleplayers. There are no doubt numerous roleplaying situations which could call for that the armor needs to come off (and it is not erp activities that I'm talking about). Someone might want to take a swim, or otherwise wounded and armor needs to be removed, or simply hang their clothes up for drying after a downpour. There are numerous events in which this function would be needed. And having it restricted like this simply ruins all of that. A normal sit animation would be nice too as sitting shouldn't be limited to ledges and chairs.

Fourthly I want to address the walk function. Many thanks for implementing it as I know it wasn't in the game to begin with, but there are a vital change that needs to be made to this function. Walk should not be a press and hold function, it should be a toggle feature so you can walk and type. This is very essential. 

And lastly I want to suggest making the amount of text you can type into the general chat a lot longer. Being able to only squeeze out 1 - 4 lines is way to small, this also cannot be stressed enough, it needs to be tremendously improved. Speaking to anyone as it is now turns into a spam fest and it's hurting our eyes. Please ease up on this restriction. I understand that the reason it is placed is to prevent gold sellers from spamming long commercial posts but to be honest, it's good that you take measures to make it hard for gold sellers to get through, but doing it like this punishes us players more than them and it ruins the game. Please ease it up and find another way.

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I agree completely! 

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Thirdly I want to address the fact that we cannot actually undress into our undies wherever we want... I can assure you there are next to no sixteen year old that hasn't seen or cant handle or even often sees women/men in underwear. If the game was for audiences around 13 or otherwise early teens then it would be more understandable but since it isn't then it should not have restrictions that are suited to crowds of those ages either. It's a bit insulting that we're being treated like children like that and quite annoying that we're robbed of such a simple freedom. 

First of all, I'd just like to say that I agree with pretty much everything you've said apart from your third point.

When I first looked at the cash shop and saw the wide array of underwear costumes, my heart sank. I've played MMORPGs where lingerie/underwear/swimsuit costumes were available and I sincerely cannot think of one where it was beneficial to the overall community/gaming experience. I'm actually a bit of a purist in the sense that I detest any lore-unfriendly elements in an RPG, but let's just stick with underwear for now.

I sympathise with the role-playing community insofar as I understand that there may be times when you'd want to disrobe for whatever reason. I think it's unfortunate that you can't have tasteful means of exploring these areas of role-playing, but you should take that up with the Asian developers who pander to their sexually frustrated teenage boy demographics. I'm willing to bet that 90% of people who will buy lingerie will be doing so purely for sexual gratification or simple titillation; The same people who have yet to grow out of the desire to stick centrefolds to their bedroom walls.

Whether the game is 16+ or 30+, some of us would like to just play a video game without having overtly-sexualised breasts and buttocks in our faces the entire time. Some of us would rather not have a front-row seat to view the latest Korean jiggle physics monstrosity. I don't consider it childish to want to play a medieval-themed RPG without seeing hundreds of players running around in speedos and thongs. It's a similar sentiment to why I wouldn't eat at a Hooters or other such restaurant. I don't want to have someone's backside in my face while I'm trying to eat some chicken wings and I don't want to have some 15-year-old jumping up and down next to me, clad in nothing but a g-string and a smile, while I'm trying to kill wolves in a mystical forest.

A compromise that I can see is to give us the option to choose whether or not we want to see someone else's underwear costume. I'm not sure how easy or difficult that would be. As for you having the "simple freedom" to subject me to the sight of you running around in your briefs? No thanks. 

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First of all, I'd just like to say that I agree with pretty much everything you've said apart from your third point.

When I first looked at the cash shop and saw the wide array of underwear costumes, my heart sank. I've played MMORPGs where lingerie/underwear/swimsuit costumes were available and I sincerely cannot think of one where it was beneficial to the overall community/gaming experience. I'm actually a bit of a purist in the sense that I detest any lore-unfriendly elements in an RPG, but let's just stick with underwear for now.

I sympathise with the role-playing community insofar as I understand that there may be times when you'd want to disrobe for whatever reason. I think it's unfortunate that you can't have tasteful means of exploring these areas of role-playing, but you should take that up with the Asian developers who pander to their sexually frustrated teenage boy demographics. I'm willing to bet that 90% of people who will buy lingerie will be doing so purely for sexual gratification or simple titillation; The same people who have yet to grow out of the desire to stick centrefolds to their bedroom walls.

Whether the game is 16+ or 30+, some of us would like to just play a video game without having overtly-sexualised breasts and buttocks in our faces the entire time. Some of us would rather not have a front-row seat to view the latest Korean jiggle physics monstrosity. I don't consider it childish to want to play a medieval-themed RPG without seeing hundreds of players running around in speedos and thongs. It's a similar sentiment to why I wouldn't eat at a Hooters or other such restaurant. I don't want to have someone's backside in my face while I'm trying to eat some chicken wings and I don't want to have some 15-year-old jumping up and down next to me, clad in nothing but a g-string and a smile, while I'm trying to kill wolves in a mystical forest.

A compromise that I can see is to give us the option to choose whether or not we want to see someone else's underwear costume. I'm not sure how easy or difficult that would be. As for you having the "simple freedom" to subject me to the sight of you running around in your briefs? No thanks. 

I do not disagree with you on any particular point in this. I completely agree, I hate the modernized crap that get's put in the games like this when it is supposed to be a medieval setting, even the fact that so many, even the vast majority if not all female shoe designs are high heels is ridiculous, and equally so the stockings and short-skirts. The reason I would want the freedom to undress wherever however is not to see said bought lingerie, I just think it's scandalous that they sell an item we're then restricted to show off pretty much everywhere. If I could decide, I would say the system you mentioned sounds perfect as a solution, and adding to it I'd rather see all the ridiculous lingerie taken out and proper "time-friendly" underwear take their place.

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I think your third point on allowing people to show their undies where ever they want is actually more immersion breaking than anything. I've played games where there are bikinis and undies that people can fight in and it looks ridiculous.

Not to mention all the alts that would sit in town wearing just undies while crafting, fishing, banking, node working, etc... I don't think it's a good idea.

But if Daum adds it for whatever reason, i really hope they add some sort of game option to not see other peoples underwear costumes. I don't want to be in town watching a bunch of half naked girls run around. : /

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I think your third point on allowing people to show their undies where ever they want is actually more immersion breaking than anything. I've played games where there are bikinis and undies that people can fight in and it looks ridiculous.

Not to mention all the alts that would sit in town wearing just undies while crafting, fishing, banking, node working, etc... I don't think it's a good idea.

But if Daum adds it for whatever reason, i really hope they add some sort of game option to not see other peoples underwear costumes. I don't want to be in town watching a bunch of half naked girls run around. : /

This I agree with.

I think your third point on allowing people to show their undies where ever they want is actually more immersion breaking than anything. I've played games where there are bikinis and undies that people can fight in and it looks ridiculous.

Not to mention all the alts that would sit in town wearing just undies while crafting, fishing, banking, node working, etc... I don't think it's a good idea.

But if Daum adds it for whatever reason, i really hope they add some sort of game option to not see other peoples underwear costumes. I don't want to be in town watching a bunch of half naked girls run around. : /

This I agree with.

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I think your third point on allowing people to show their undies where ever they want is actually more immersion breaking than anything. I've played games where there are bikinis and undies that people can fight in and it looks ridiculous.

Not to mention all the alts that would sit in town wearing just undies while crafting, fishing, banking, node working, etc... I don't think it's a good idea.

But if Daum adds it for whatever reason, i really hope they add some sort of game option to not see other peoples underwear costumes. I don't want to be in town watching a bunch of half naked girls run around. : /

What I mean with being able to undress means just that, to actually remove your power equipment in order to reveal what's underneath. With that running around fighting in your undies would be the same as running around without your power gear on and hence not having any of the protection/bonuses from them so I don't think it would be all that common. And I don't know which previous game's you've played but I can at least tell from my own personal experience of having played many mmo's I've never seen it being a trend that people sit/stand around and or craft naked, sure there's the occasional one or two but imo at least that is acceptable as trade-off for the function. 

Also if it would be made possible with a toggle to yourself decide wether or not to be able to see people undressed then it would pose no problem for those of you that do not want to see it either since you could simply toggle it off, making you unable to see it. That's win win for both sides.

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