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Energy dosen't restore while offline?

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I've logged out for 1 hour and got 0 energy back.. Don't tell me that we need to let our computer on all the time?

It's faster if we're in the game but it also restores when the game is off right?

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I remember my energy being recharged to full after logging back in a day later (during cbt2), but i bought a travelers pack so can't confirm about what's happening on live.  I'd assume it hasn't changed.  

If you're only logging out for an hour, probably better to stay logged in and have your character lay in a bed (increases your energy regen).

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hmmm that is odd. i was told we regen 1 point every 30 minutes while logged out.

and that we regen 1 point every 3 minutes while logged in playing the game (or even afk)

i am finding all of this afk mechanic stuff for a variety of things is a bit silly

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But if you don't stay logged in how can the bean counters at corporate show off all the active play time the game is experiencing?! 

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I've logged out for 1 hour and got 0 energy back.. Don't tell me that we need to let our computer on all the time?

Yeppers.

  • 1 energy every 3 minutes
  • 2 energy every 3 minutes if resting in a regular bed
  • 3 energy every 3 minutes if resting in a cash shop bed
  • 1 energy per hour if offline

The offline energy regeneration is pathetic and needs adjustment.

The energy system itself is built around funneling players to the cash shop to have to buy energy potions, but they decided not to have the cash shop energy potions in the NA/EU version. I am very thankful for that decision, but the energy regeneration needs to be adjusted to account for the change - especially since we have higher energy costs in NA/EU due to processing.

Offline regeneration should be 50% of online (and you should be able to log out in a bed for that bonus). Otherwise you have to leave your PC (and the game) running 24/7 so that you have energy. Which is ridiculous.

The energy system is something I have loathed in every MMO that has employed it.

Not to mention that it still costs us money, cash shop or not, due to the electricity bill we have to pay for having our PC on all night.

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That's pretty disappointing to hear that the regen rate offline is as bad as it is. Do we know if we have the client "minimized" as opposed to quit, does it still grant active energy regeneration? Might have to consider seeing if Teamviewer can work from work.

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That's pretty disappointing to hear that the regen rate offline is as bad as it is. Do we know if we have the client "minimized" as opposed to quit, does it still grant active energy regeneration? Might have to consider seeing if Teamviewer can work from work.

You can minimize it but the client sound doesn't shut off.

The KR version fixed that in a patch, but I've not heard if the NA/EU version has implemented the patch fix yet. Eventually it will, but for now you may be muting your speakers.

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You can minimize it but the client sound doesn't shut off.

The KR version fixed that in a patch, but I've not heard if the NA/EU version has implemented the patch fix yet. Eventually it will, but for now you may be muting your speakers.

Does it end up using less resources or not? Do you know?
Like currently my fans run on high to play... Can't imagine leaving it on 24/7 for energy

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it should recharge offline

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It'd be nice to be ecofriendly. Sure, I may not be paying Daum/PA for more energy, but I am paying the utilities for it.

edit: And Inb4 "Wow your computer wont even be like a 10 dollar dent on your bill"
My monthly electricity bills range from 30~70USD, and I've got 2 desktops set up for my boyfriend and I. Really feels wasteful leaving our towers on over night.

 

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Does it end up using less resources or not? Do you know?Like currently my fans run on high to play... Can't imagine leaving it on 24/7 for energy

Yeah I won't be leaving it on 24/7 either. I also use my PC for more than just gaming, so I can't have the game running 24/7.

I can't say for sure that it would use less resources minimized but my fans whip up when I run games too. When I alt+tab out or minimize the fans do slow down, so I would guess the same would happen in BDO's case.

Hopefully if you're in a bed you won't get auto-kicked for AFKing. With a cash shop bed you would get 60 energy every hour which (as I understand it) is plenty.

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It'd be nice to be ecofriendly. Sure, I may not be paying Daum/PA for more energy, but I am paying the utilities for it.

edit: And Inb4 "Wow your computer wont even be like a 10 dollar dent on your bill"
My monthly electricity bills range from 30~70USD, and I've got 2 desktops set up for my boyfriend and I. Really feels wasteful leaving our towers on over night.

Yeah I won't be leaving it on 24/7 either. I also use my PC for more than just gaming, so I can't have the game running 24/7.

I can't say for sure that it would use less resources minimized but my fans whip up when I run games too. When I alt+tab out or minimize the fans do slow down, so I would guess the same would happen in BDO's case.

Hopefully if you're in a bed you won't get auto-kicked for AFKing. With a cash shop bed you would get 60 energy every hour which (as I understand it) is plenty.

Exactly why I never understood why MMORPGs nowadays love to have different online/offline energy regen rates... What's the benefit of having an extra 1000 players standing around not moving for 10-20 hours? =/

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Yeppers.

  • 1 energy every 3 minutes
  • 2 energy every 3 minutes if resting in a regular bed
  • 3 energy every 3 minutes if resting in a cash shop bed
  • 1 energy per hour if offline

The offline energy regeneration is pathetic and needs adjustment.

The energy system itself is built around funneling players to the cash shop to have to buy energy potions, but they decided not to have the cash shop energy potions in the NA/EU version. I am very thankful for that decision, but the energy regeneration needs to be adjusted to account for the change - especially since we have higher energy costs in NA/EU due to processing.

Offline regeneration should be 50% of online (and you should be able to log out in a bed for that bonus). Otherwise you have to leave your PC (and the game) running 24/7 so that you have energy. Which is ridiculous.

The energy system is something I have loathed in every MMO that has employed it.

Not to mention that it still costs us money, cash shop or not, due to the electricity bill we have to pay for having our PC on all night.

What is the justification of the energy system? You can't buy pots with cash. Why even have it at all. Slow down the hardcore to make it more competitive? It's just such a weird thing.

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Exactly why I never understood why MMORPGs nowadays love to have different online/offline energy regen rates... What's the benefit of having an extra 1000 players standing around not moving for 10-20 hours? =/

"Look at all the online players, the world's so alive"

It also encourages people to buy nice outfits to AFK in and look good. Some vain behavior (that I dont exclude myself from, lets be honest) and so you have a lot of players afking in decent outfits, it makes non-dressed players feel like "wow look at all these ouftits, i must look like a noob without 'em"

And it also adds some of that immersion.

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Did a quick test.

With Black Desert Running:

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With Black Desert "Minimized":

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Doesn't bother me as much since the card isn't working hard at that point. What I also like is that restoring is quick.. Yes, audio still plays, and in that second image, I still had a few others things running too.

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"Look at all the online players, the world's so alive"

It also encourages people to buy nice outfits to AFK in and look good. Some vain behavior (that I dont exclude myself from, lets be honest) and so you have a lot of players afking in decent outfits, it makes non-dressed players feel like "wow look at all these ouftits, i must look like a noob without 'em"

And it also adds some of that immersion.

That's some... Messed up logic... But maybe that outfit thing is correct.

I don't see how people standing still for 20 hours is immersion but okay~

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That's some... Messed up logic... But maybe that outfit thing is correct.

I don't see how people standing still for 20 hours is immersion but okay~

Tons of compounding factors, but the trend is common in a majority of MMOs with no AFK timer, and some sort of customization

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Just buy a house with a bed and lie down. Either while afk or to go eat or something. 

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There is an "energy saving" option in the settings menu. 

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Lots and lots of the misc quests restore energy as well.

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I've logged out for 1 hour and got 0 energy back.. Don't tell me that we need to let our computer on all the time?

It's faster if we're in the game but it also restores when the game is off right?

hehe nocturne, is it just me or everytime you create a thread new thread you are complaining about something or having issues with something?  

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Protip :

Don't go offline.

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Exactly why I never understood why MMORPGs nowadays love to have different online/offline energy regen rates... What's the benefit of having an extra 1000 players standing around not moving for 10-20 hours? =/

It stems from Korean games. Most Korean gamers don't own their own computers, they play socially in PC bangs. (Net Cafes) So, this encourages them to go to the PCbang every day and not skip days so they get better energy. Some games also sell cash shop upgrades that give you/improve your offline energy regen. It's something I wish they'd consider changing as part of localization efforts, but oh well. Same reason we have time consuming "afk tasks" like fishing.

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There was a post by cm_jouska, he said the reason we have the energy cap is basically because it's too easy to level up crafting otherwise.

Apparently he made it from Beginner to Master cooking in 3 days without the energy cap, so the reason it's there is to stop the rapid inflation.

Can still level from 1-50 in 2 days though, and grinding is more lucrative than professions anyway, so it sounds like a non-point, but there it is.

 

EDIT- Inb4 they add a limit of how many monsters you can kill a day.

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For those who are having energy problems. I found out that creating ALTs help a lot. Not sure what there recover rate for your alts when playing on your main. I have 8 alts and its nice to be able to leveling nodes when you have 800 energy in bank in 3-4 days.

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