• Announcements

    • IMPORTANT - REACH US IN THE NEW FORUM   05/04/2017

      Ladies and gentlemen ATTENTION please:
      It's time to move into a new house!
        As previously announced, from now on IT WON'T BE POSSIBLE TO CREATE THREADS OR REPLY in the old forums. From now on the old forums will be readable only. If you need to move/copy/migrate any post/material from here, feel free to contact the staff in the new home. We’ll be waiting for you in the NEW Forums!

      https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php

      *New features and amazing tools are waiting for you, even more is yet to come in the future.. just like world exploration in BDO leads to new possibilities.
      So don't be afraid about changes, click the link above and follow us!
      Enjoy and see you on the other side!  
    • WICHTIG: Das Forum ist umgezogen!   05/04/2017

      Damen und Herren, wir bitten um Eure Aufmerksamkeit, es ist an der Zeit umzuziehen!
        Wie wir bereits angekündigt hatten, ist es ab sofort nicht mehr möglich, neue Diskussionen in diesem Forum zu starten. Um Euch Zeit zu geben, laufende Diskussionen abzuschließen, könnt Ihr noch für zwei Wochen in offenen Diskussionen antworten. Danach geht dieses Forum hier in den Ruhestand und das NEUE FORUM übernimmt vollständig.
      Das Forum hier bleibt allerdings erhalten und lesbar.   Neue und verbesserte Funktionen warten auf Euch im neuen Forum und wir arbeiten bereits an weiteren Erweiterungen.
      Wir sehen uns auf der anderen Seite!

      https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php Update:
      Wie angekündigt könen ab sofort in diesem Forum auch keine neuen Beiträge mehr veröffentlicht werden.
    • IMPORTANT: Le nouveau forum   05/04/2017

      Aventurières, aventuriers, votre attention s'il vous plaît, il est grand temps de déménager!
      Comme nous vous l'avons déjà annoncé précédemment, il n'est désormais plus possible de créer de nouveau sujet ni de répondre aux anciens sur ce bon vieux forum.
      Venez visiter le nouveau forum!
      https://community.blackdesertonline.com
      De nouvelles fonctionnalités ainsi que de nouveaux outils vous attendent dès à présent et d'autres arriveront prochainement! N'ayez pas peur du changement et rejoignez-nous! Amusez-vous bien et a bientôt dans notre nouveau chez nous

Lieto' pre-Mediah guide on Ranger


347 posts in this topic

Posted (edited)

Hello guys,

Here is my short guide to pre-Mediah ranger, hopefully some of you will find it useful.

The information below is considered to be true on Ru servers among most good rangers. We are behind KR in patches but this is probably a good thing for you because you are likely to have similar stuff on EU/NA although some of it may be different. I consider myself a min maxer, so hopefully you will find the guide useful. It's certainly not the most complete guide but it should get you rolling.

 

Why ranger?

To sum it up: not much cc, squishy, scales insanely well with damage, relatively mobile and easy to get started with. In fact as the damage numbers go up being the one who can deal the damage from distance becomes more valuable. You are less prone to ping and lag issues since you kind of do damage in a huge cone in front of you, so it's harder to miss. That warrior might be able to one shot you but if you can one shot him as well you will do it before he will get to you. It’s not amazing pre-mediah but it’s fine, just expect to die a bit 1v1 vs skilled and geared opponents, you ll have your revenge in Mediah. Playing ranger at high level isn't about pressing the fanciest combinations of buttons (other classes get more of that sht) but rather having good positioning, knowing your limits and farming 24/7 to get insane ATP.

 

Gear:

Pre-mediah BiS is: Chest + Gloves from Hebe set (2x socket, non craft able) and Helm + Boots from Zareth set (the one that gives you +stamina on boots). If you will look into it closely you will probably understand why. Having 2 sockets on gloves and chest is absolutely vital because chest gets +200hp and gloves get +4 attack speed from gems which is the only way to go. Literally. You add Zareth because stamina is vital for ranger, it might not look as such but it's your best choice nevertheless. Agery is a decent starter alternative but it's not as good.

Other parts are pretty straightforward — get stuff with more +attack and possibly some +hit. As a freshly dinged 50 get Bares +1 asap (you can afford it), and then work on BiS: witch earrings, blue cultist rings, ogre neck, tree spirit belt.

Steel offhand vs Bronze. Bronze is better in pvp when unbuffed, steel is better when buffed and in PVE. Also steel becomes the only choice once boss set is available.. Overall i recommend going steel. Having both wouldn't be terrible if you are rich. Having just bronze is probably a bad idea because it will cripple your farming  (and that's what you are going to do 95% of your time in the game)

Weapon: Liverto >>>>> Yuria > Aswoll >>>>>>>> everything else.

 

Gems:

BIS are: Chest (2x 100hp), Helm (+50hp), Gloves (2x +2atspeed), boots (+25% knockdown resist), weapon (+1ats +1crit or/and infinity extraction). Attack speed is the most vital part. Get those asap, it’s next level.

 

Skills:

First of, there is no "skill build". 50 is hardly a soft cap since you ll get to 51 in roughly 25-30 hours of grinding and that will get you massive amount of SP. There are some priorities though, you might not be able to take it all right away but it's not a big deal, just keep working towards it. Evasive explosion shot rank 1 > (personal preference) Bow mastery max > Blasting gust max > Will of wind max > max evasive shot at 41 > Ultimate charging wind max > Spirit healing max. Around level 53 max feather or razor wind or both and consider maxing explosive shot for pvp. By that time you will figure out what to pick next (don’t forget to get Call from Sky and Flow: Kiss of wind when you have SP for it)

As a fresh 50 consider something similar to this: http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator/ranger/7906#

 

Skills awakening:

5% of hp damage on will of win, 10% slow on blasting gust, everything else i d go attack speed or slow (up to you), having crit or +attack isn't the end of the world as well. Same goes for minus enemy attack speed (it's nice to have it on something). To change skill awakening you will need a thing that looks like yellow cookie and should be called "memory fragment" and drops from relic bosses spheres. Basically you use it to get an extra roll. Potentially you might spend a lot of those before you get perfect awakenings. It's might not be your first priority but make sure you do at some point past level 51 or so.

 

PVE:

Level explosive shot to rank 1 on level 20, max bow mastery when you have spare points. Afterwards find a bunch of mobs, hold A (D or S), RMB and keep clicking LMB. You will spend days doing just that. Go to catfish on level 46 and stay there till 53. If you have gem of infinity extraction in your weapon and explosion shot rank 1 and maxed spirit healing your farming should be sustainable (no mana pots required). At 53 you have a choice — max razor wind and go to tree spirits or max feather and stay at catfish. Catfish gives you twice or trice more exp while tree spirits might get you x1.5-x2 more money.

Note: some people do use will of wind for farming cultists — that's legit, but catfish doesn't really need Will of wind.

All purpose sustainable farm, groups of mobs: explosive shot rank 1

Single target sustainable farm: razor wind

Post level 53 weak groups fast eradication: feather

Post level 53 strong groups farm: will of wind + explosive shot

Important: One thing that would increase your farming time DRAMATICALLY is getting high grade knowledge of the mobs you are killing, aim for at least A+. You can drop the knowledge at Calpheon library for 10 labour points, keep doing it till you roll A+ or S, the difference is massive, mobs go from being tough to being paper.

 

Daily PVP:

This topic is covered in many video guides so here are few basics. There are three skills that you will use: Q (Blasting gust), F (Will of wind), Space (Ultimate charging wind). You unlock your combos at level 41 with learning ultimate evasive shot so make sure to learn it. Both Q and F combos into Space which is your main source of insane-wtf damage (Space is). It looks something like: Hold left/right, hold Q, hold LMB, release Q, hold Space…. drink mana pots. Same with F. Learn to do Blasting gust strafe both to the sides and forward/backwards (hold Q+side+LMB). Learn to use Call from Sky — it’s the only thing that makes you immune to damage (for half a second) while you are in the sky.

Note: damage from Q is shared among everyone who is hit so you won’t do much damage with mobs around. Space and F damage do get somewhat reduced but not that much. So your typical encounter on spot would look like Q knockdown - A-F-LMB-Space-Hold until target dies. You got the idea. If you maxed evasive shot (which you should at some point) it will stun enemies around you for a brief moment so whenever something charges into your melee do evasive shot flip + F + LMB + Space while it’s stunned. A more fancy move would be to get close to your target (jump on it's head) with call from sky and as you move forward attack it from the back with the same combo which would do more damage.

 

Mass PVP:

It’s all about picking the right time and right place to go all in (and being full buffed with alchemy). You do most damage with "space" which is relatively low range. So during most encounters you try to flank your enemies, unload your mana, hide your weapon and shift + run away to recover lost hp and mana. Some would do feather, but pre-median it’s relatively inefficient unless 10 archers are doing it back to back. Use Q to chase or run away, use explosive shot backwards to run away (since it stuns those around you). Use Call from Sky to avoid damage. Assist your team mates by using Q for a knockdown and Flow kiss of wind (or kill everyone). Some would say that you need to defend archers, personally i feel better when i am alone. In any case archer should only be exposed for a very brief moment of time: between he goes all in up till the point when he runs out of mana (3 seconds) so i d rather not have giant running around the woods with me to protect me.

Note: remember that your damage will be somewhat split among those who are hit with it, so the more people you hit the less damage they will take. You aim to kill rather than "deal damage" so make sure you engage 1-3 enemies at a time and kill them.

 

Buffs:

Keep as much of those as you can at the same time. Serendian treat is a must for any kind of offensive activity. Calpheon is a good defensive option and consider drinking tea (hehe) as it helps with levelling. Alchemy should be pretty self explanatory. For PVE consider putting experience, health regen on hit and whatever cheap ones you can get your hands on, faster clearing time won't hurt. For PVP absolutely nr.1 "o'sht its PVP time" is +critical damage, it's rather expensive but with this baby your power can double. Overall there are lots of good alchemy options, consider buffing it all when it's time.

 

Spending labour points

First priorities: trying to get liverto weapon from night trader, rolling high knowledge grades on the catfish and levelling the Kaya lake catfish node to at least 5-6. Then spend some to level alchemy, then spend leftover to afk-gather water and process it into purified water which is handy for alchemy. Then look for better ways to spend it yourself: there are plenty.

 

Workers

Depending on your market you might actually earn something with crafting but what you absolutely must do as soon as you have time / having a break from farming is getting at least few human workers in each town and sending them to get wood/ore from nearby nodes. Stay online 24/7 so that they never stop working. Selling whatever they gather is a good source of passive income and you will use some of those to craft things for yourself. It might not look like much but after a week or two when your workers level up you might notice that you are actually richer than you were before. 

Later when you have a lot of wood you might want to start making packs which probably needs a guide on its own. To cover it briefly — you process (chop) the wood through pressing "L", and then use it to do packs through lumber processing facilities in your town. Packs are trade goods so you just carry those to the furthest connected city and sell it.

 

Random stuff:

Consider switching Q and E on your keyboard and assigning middle mouse button to right mouse button and right mouse button to side mouse button (for easier forward strafing) — forward strafing requires you to turn your camera to the side then press middle button and turn camera back forward and hold it that way as you Q strafe. It's not very easy to pull out holding the fiddly mouse wheel.

Lastly, there are Diminishing returns on your control so keep track of that (it's shown next to your character)

Enjoy your ranger.

 

p.s. i did create an account on EU but i am not playing here actively. Feel free to ask if you have any questions.

Edited by li3to
37 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

Damn, thanks a lot dude!

I started playing BDO on sunday and I main ranger, and I was a bit lost.

Thanks for the informations, I would just like to know about canceling or whatever it is.

You've probably already seen this. Well, I guess he is good and I know he has insane gear. But besides that; does he cancel every skill or what? I mean everything looks so smooth and I do not understand how he goes forward while using a skill.

And, do you have any skill tree for 50 PvP? because I'm a bit lost with all thoses skills, I read your post ofc but I mean why this one instead of this one, ect..

 

Thanks man.

@Crit Apparently you know the class well, could you tell me what is this guy doing? I mean in term of the skills he uses, why does he look so fast? He cancels everything? I'm a new ranger player and this looks cool!

Edited by Nocturne

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

 

You've probably already seen this. Well, I guess he is good and I know he has insane gear. But besides that; does he cancel every skill or what? I mean everything looks so smooth and I do not understand how he goes forward while using a skill.

And, do you have any skill tree for 50 PvP? because I'm a bit lost with all thoses skills, I read your post ofc but I mean why this one instead of this one, ect.

 

-This guy is mostly using "Blasting Gust". You can start strafing and cancelling animations once you have "Ultimate: Evasive Shot".

-To strafe forward/backwards you have to camera lock yourself (so you're actually strafing sideways, but you changed your camera angle so you seem to be going forward ;) ).

-Camera locking is possible with the middle mouse button (that wheel thingy you mostly use to scroll).

-The skill when he shoots in the air is "Descending Current", for which you need it's Ultimate (lv 53) to shoot multiple in a row.

Edited by StewieMcGriffin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

This video is good representation of how being ranged gives you an advantage on extreme gear levels. On this kind of gear levels all classes become extremely dangerous, but they still need to get to you and you don't. This is also a good representation of how to act in mass pvp – go in, kill some, go out to recover. It might be that they didn't go for him because he never actually overextended. The idea is to go out before they really notice you.

Animation cancelling on ranger usually happens through pressing "A" and "D" — say you are using a skill, pressing "A" key makes you strafe to the side and combo it with another skill etc. (it becomes available on level 41). Either that or "flows", for example Blasting gust can be cast without animation through one of the flow skills (not sure about the english name) LMB+Back+Q pressed in a rapid succession. Same goes for red arrow — flow kiss of wind makes it pretty much instant cast.

Edited by li3to
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Thanks for the answers.

I'm 41, I just took the last evasion skill.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

could you explain how exactly attackspeed and casting speed work for ranger? it think it's kinda confusing since you cancel everything.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

What do you mean by F? For will of the wind? Isn't it shift Q for will of the wind?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

What do you mean by F? For will of the wind? Isn't it shift Q for will of the wind?

Once you've unlocked Ultimate: Evasive Shot, you can trigger the hidden combo: A+F and D+F to do a smoother version of Will of the Wind. You'll never use Shift+Q after getting that skill.

@li3to Thanks for this guide, really appreciated. Sometimes I read crit gems are preferred, but you suggest attack speed. What is your opinion on socketing crit vs. attack speed?

Edited by Skaldir

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Once you've unlocked Ultimate: Evasive Shot, you can trigger the hidden combo: A+F and D+F to do a smoother version of Will of the Wind. You'll never use Shift+Q after getting that skill.

@li3to Thanks for this guide, really appreciated. Sometimes I read crit gems are preferred, but you suggest attack speed. What is your opinion on socketing crit vs. attack speed?

Wow!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

This is pretty helpful information for Rangers!!! I love how rangers can take on so many mobs. This game gets a little grindy so its good to have a character with a lot of rang.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Once you've unlocked Ultimate: Evasive Shot, you can trigger the hidden combo: A+F and D+F to do a smoother version of Will of the Wind. You'll never use Shift+Q after getting that skill.

@li3to Thanks for this guide, really appreciated. Sometimes I read crit gems are preferred, but you suggest attack speed. What is your opinion on socketing crit vs. attack speed?

What do you mean A+F? I can't do it and I have EES

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

What do you mean A+F? I can't do it and I have EES

EES = Evasive Explosive Shot you mean? I'm talking about Ultimate: Evasive Shot (level 41). That skill allows you to do a lot of hidden combo's, for that I refer to the excellent guide written by @Crit (here). In this example, you hold down A or D (left or right movement) and press F once, this will do a sideways Will of the Wind instantly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

could you explain how exactly attackspeed and casting speed work for ranger? it think it's kinda confusing since you cancel everything.

Yes I would like to know your reasoning for getting Atk Speed over Crit Rate. After lvl41 you can cancel animations, I do not understand why Atk Speed is needed, I seen other guides recommend Crit Rate and HP instead.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Yes I would like to know your reasoning for getting Atk Speed over Crit Rate. After lvl41 you can cancel animations, I do not understand why Atk Speed is needed, I seen other guides recommend Crit Rate and HP instead.

Because you cancel the animation of an attack skill with the animation of a strafe, which still gets benefit from attack speed. Moreover, some skills, such as Descending Current, benefit from attack speed, being mostly uncancelable. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Yes I would like to know your reasoning for getting Atk Speed over Crit Rate. After lvl41 you can cancel animations, I do not understand why Atk Speed is needed, I seen other guides recommend Crit Rate and HP instead.

i am not sure on this but i think all skills you cancel get the 100% crit rate from evasive shot. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

I spent relatively low amount of hours playing without liverto and sub level 50 so i wouldn't theory craft too much about it.

Liverto gives you +3 crit, weapon gem gives you +1 crit +1 attack speed, and you get 4 attack speed from gems in gloves. So you only need 1 crit from food to max both crit and ats. If i would need to choose i would pick ATS over crit any day. Why? After having 5 attack speed going back to 0 feels like playing in slow motion. But again, you NEED to have both if you are any serious about this game at all.

 am not sure on this but i think all skills you cancel get the 100% crit rate from evasive shot

 

Only skill that has 100% crit is Blasting gust.

Edited by li3to

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Thanks for the guide. But one question, is ultimate charging wind not good for pve'ing? I don't see you mention it for the PVE section O.o I'm asking since a lot of the KR vids show them spamming that move.

Second, what skills does spirit healing affect? Does it only affect the normal bow shot or other skills too?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

do you lvl/use tearing arrow or penetrating wind?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

what is the gem of meditation?  and from where?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

What's the reason behind Zereth boots? I went for Head, Chest and Shoes Heve and Agerian gloves for the attack speed.

Thanks!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

Charging wind for PVE: Past 53 on certain mobs it makes sense but even then it's not very mana efficient. I would use it if i were streaming because it looks fancy but efficiency is low

Spirit healing: it restores some mana on every enemy/shot you hit. Basically it makes your grinding sustainable (not needing too much mana pots and thats handy because those eat through your carrying weight and you don't want to leave your spot every 15 minutes)

Levelling: i level using explosion shot only putting few points to razor wind for single target damage and bosses.

Gem of meditation: restores 1 MP on hit or so. You can probably do it with alchemy but usually it comes from AH.

Zareth boots: stamina is a vital stat that you can't replace with gem pre-mediah. By going Agerian gloves it will be harder to reach Attack speed cap because Hebe+2 gems gives you 4 ATS while Agerian + 1 gem only gives you 3.

Edited by li3to

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

 

Zareth boots: stamina is a vital stat that you can't replace with gem pre-mediah. By going Agerian gloves it will be harder to reach Attack speed cap because Hebe+2 gems gives you 4 ATS while Agerian + 1 gem only gives you 3.

Oh that's right! I didn't notice! Thanks for the answer, at what server do you play?

Edited by Gonzalo

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

arigato!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Also one more question what gem on boots is 25% KD resist? 

 

 

Thank you

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Unfortunately i am not familiar with English names. Try looking through Alchemy data base or sort it on AH per item type. It's a green one.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites