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There are more elegant ways to earn money with cosmetic transactions, rather than going in at the highest possible price, evaluated by experts.

Still, it is a strategic call to go in high and react to the market. What you gain is obviously more money at first, but you will certainly lose out in the long run. That is why there are other theories about going in at a mediocre price range (like 15€ per costume, or account bound costumes) and get more sales due to higher interest rate (more people buying) plus it would create less of an outrage in the community.

In the latest interview (that streamer with jouska and Rick van Deem), Rick made it pretty clear, that he is convinced the price tags were fair. They are not. They are set at "max price" and will go lower in small steps, IF the community keeps up the pressure (either vocally or due to not buying the costumes).

Keep up your voice and let us stomp that price tag to a win win place, where Daum makes more sales and we happily buy more costumes.

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Costumes are there to be exclusive, its the most expensive and valueable item on the market, it was meant for people  who really want it, to save up and get it.

they arent sox, and their value stands well priced compared to other items.

If you are not willing to pay this price, then its simply not worth it in your eyes, and its okay. they want to make costumes feel PREMIUMS rather than cheap and disposable.

This isnt tera cashgrab greedy companies, who sell costumes as cheap as possible as stupid looking as possible just to cashout on the back of poor kids. 

Daum rather respect their community and offer high quality, in small quantity and price tag that will make people appreciate their "investment" into the costume. they stated that they dont want costumes to become sox, where people change them every 1 hour.

almost every post of yours is defending Daum. You sure you arent being payed to spread bullshit?

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almost every post of yours is defending Daum. You sure you arent being payed to spread bullshit?

So people who do not cry about nonsense must be getting paid off. 
Got it. 

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almost every post of yours is defending Daum. You sure you arent being payed to spread bullshit?

Either buyers remorse or s/he has stock... ;)

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So people who do not cry about nonsense must be getting paid off. Got it. 

he/she blatantly agrees with EVERYTHING from Daum. Idk whats worse. Seeing this person spreading bs on the forums or that one guys response to the cash shop prices question on the Daum Q&A

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he/she blatantly agrees with EVERYTHING from Daum. Idk whats worse. Seeing this person spreading bs on the forums or that one guys response to the cash shop prices question on the Daum Q&A

As I said, you can't really hate on the PR guys, they have to sell it, whether they like it or not... apologetics on the forums on the other hand.

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he/she blatantly agrees with EVERYTHING from Daum. Idk whats worse. Seeing this person spreading bs on the forums or that one guys response to the cash shop prices question on the Daum Q&A

This person says things that you don't agree with and does not agree with you, thus they must be "spreading bs"  just because they have a different and favorable opinion about the game they enjoy. 

I think I'm starting to understand all the ppl who post the word "fanboy" in every other sentence and bash people for enjoying the game and not complaining every .5 seconds about something stupid. 

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almost every post of yours is defending Daum. You sure you arent being payed to spread bullshit?

nonsense there are no shills here. Just look the other way, nothing to see here.

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This person says things that you don't agree with and does not agree with you, thus they must be "spreading bs"  just because they have a different and favorable opinion about the game they enjoy. 
I think I'm starting to understand all the ppl who post the word "fanboy" in every other sentence and bash people for enjoying the game and not complaining every .5 seconds about something stupid. 

They purposelessly kept every thing cosmetic on the cash shop. They also kept helpful utility items on the cash shop. Now i wouldnt mind about the utility items but their price tag is silly. If someone agrees to them making you look the same from lvl 1 to whatever and no matter how many hours you spend playing the game, you still look the same unless you SPEND. How does one defend this?!?!?! How does one defend a big part of people playing a mmo being horrendous? The point of mmos are to be able to have as much freedom as possible with your character. The looks/pets/dyes/full skill reset are ALL behind $$$. Two days of loyalty points for ONE DYE. Lets not forget that the single dye could be ANY DYE. 

 

If this doesnt scream -----ed up to you then you must either be a 1% or a ignorant fool. It's that simple. 

nonsense there are no shills here. Just look the other way, nothing to see here.

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They purposelessly kept every thing cosmetic on the cash shop. They also kept helpful utility items on the cash shop. Now i wouldnt mind about the utility items but their price tag is silly. If someone agrees to them making you look the same from lvl 1 to whatever and no matter how many hours you spend playing the game, you still look the same unless you SPEND. How does one defend this?!?!?! How does one defend a big part of people playing a mmo being horrendous? The point of mmos are to be able to have as much freedom as possible with your character. The looks/pets/dyes/full skill reset are ALL behind $$$. Two days of loyalty points for ONE DYE. Lets not forget that the single dye could be ANY DYE. 

 

If this doesnt scream -----ed up to you then you must either be a 1% or a ignorant fool. It's that simple. 

Cosmetics being in a cash shop is not new. You just don't like the prices.
Your armor does indeed change, and there are different sets to get, and gear that can be milled into costumes.
The cosmetic parts of this game being put into the cash shop was common knowledge once they announced the B2P model, and yes it was on purpose b/c they need revenue to continue to pay employees, keep up servers, and continue working on localization for the current build and future patches, and they  decided to just sell cosmetics in an effort to not make the CS a P2W nightmare like it is in KR and JP.
The "point" of MMOs is up to the player, esp in a game like this. 
You get more than one dye for your two days of loyalty. 


 

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Cosmetics being in a cash shop is not new. You just don't like the prices.Your armor does indeed change, and there are different sets to get, and gear that can be milled into costumes.
The cosmetic parts of this game being put into the cash shop was common knowledge once they announced the B2P model, and yes it was on purpose b/c they need revenue to continue to pay employees, keep up servers, and continue working on localization for the current build and future patches, and they  decided to just sell cosmetics in an effort to not make the CS a P2W nightmare like it is in KR and JP.
The "point" of MMOs is up to the player, esp in a game like this. 
You get more than one dye for your two days of loyalty. 


 

Exactly! All the MMORPG titles I've played, F2P, B2P and P2P, had more options when it came to armor, huge varieties between design and colors, and on top of that- FREE dyes and glamour! In all MMORPGs only dyes you could get from Cash Shop were "special" dyes, that apart from changing color had a "special" effect, like making your cotton rob look metallic or glow at night. We're talking about basic colors in BDO.

Search "Blade and Soul armor" or "Vindictus armor" or "Final Fantasy XIV armor" or "TERA armor" or even "4 Story armor" in Google images. There's so much variety, so many different models and colors for you to choose from, and if you don't like the armor you got on a higher level, you can glamour it for absolutely free!

Saying "Daum/Pearl Abbyss have to earn money to keep the game going"- yes, they do have to earn money, but they don't have to remove features from the game or limit our options. Just make cute outfits and cool pets and we'll buy them as soon as they hit the store! Although with prices as high as that- maybe they do have to push us to purchase. .-.

 

And to people saying "BDO has armor variety"- I know some classes have more variety when it comes to armors than others, but look at all free armors you can try on Ranger in CC:

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Oh look! It's the SAME DRESS with different accessories on top of it! 5/6 armors! Short, green in white dots, potato-sack-like dresses, just with different stuff put on top! Do you know how 6th one looks like?

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Like a different short, green dress! This one just doesn't look like a potato sack! Success! Variety!

How long did it they take them to do those armors?! 5/6 are the same thing! WHY?! They didn't even bother to change the colors to make them look different! >-<

 

I'm not going to spam more pics here, but just take a look at classes in CC:

- Sorceress has some variety, but you can see elements from basic, default armor recycled to higher lvl armor. 4/6 armors share same pants texture repainted, other 2 share same pants model together, 3/6 armors share same "potato-sack" shirt, 2/6 share same turtle-neck shirt, 1 has unique shirt (success!), 2/6 share same shoes model repainted, rest of shoes are similar but they're not the same

 

- Valkyrie has 3/7 same dress with different accessories, 2/7 same dress repainted, 2/7 same dress with different accessories. 1 dress has unique shoes so that's something, seeing how other dresses have 2/7 same shoes (1 has armor thrown on top) +2/7 same shoes repainted +2/7 same shoes... 

 

- Witch has 4/7 same robes (exact same model) repainted and with different accessories, 3/7 same robe repainted and they share one hat model (3/7), 4 remaining hats are unique, 3/7 same shoe model, 3/6 same shoe model (those dress-like robes are literally the same thing but repainted), 1 unique shoe model

 

- Wizard is same as Witch, 4/7 same robes repainted with different accessories, 3/7 robes only repainted, 3/7 same hat model repainted, 4 unique hats. Same situation as Witch with shoes aswell

 

- Tamer has 5/6 same armors, repainted and with different accessories (2/6 share a bit different shape of the skirt), sometimes leggings, 3/6 have same shoes, 2/6 share same shoe model (though one is a short boot and one is a tall boot), 1 armor is unique (success)

 

- Warrior has same situation as Ranger, 5/6 same green tunic, brown pants armor with stuff thrown on top of it, 1 armor unique, 2 unique shoe models

 

- Berserker has similar situation to Sorcerer, 3/6 same shirt, 3 unique shirts, 3/6 same "skirt", 2/6 same "skirt", 1 unique "skirt", 3/6 same shoe models, 3 remaining... kinda unique shoe models? They're in the same fashion, but they have different models

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Cosmetics being in a cash shop is not new. You just don't like the prices.Your armor does indeed change, and there are different sets to get, and gear that can be milled into costumes.
The cosmetic parts of this game being put into the cash shop was common knowledge once they announced the B2P model, and yes it was on purpose b/c they need revenue to continue to pay employees, keep up servers, and continue working on localization for the current build and future patches, and they  decided to just sell cosmetics in an effort to not make the CS a P2W nightmare like it is in KR and JP.
The "point" of MMOs is up to the player, esp in a game like this. 
You get more than one dye for your two days of loyalty. 


 

This isn't the first b2p in history... You're blindly defending it just like that other person. I don't care about the prices but for how much they are going for just shows what their true intentions are. I don't mind looking like a pleb since stated armor isn't on the cash shop. Armor BARELY changes and you will most likely be using one main set till the new armors with media/valencia arrive and after that? You will have those armors for many more months and guess what? You ill look 99% the same as the other armor with some different lines or maybe a tiny metal piece on your gear. Currently there is no way to turn that gear into a costume and guess what? The ticket have a big chance of being in the cash shop. 

Our version is the only b2p version and on top of that we get ass-----ed to pay the same prices as other areas where the game is free. This is not a b2p model. Its a money grab to enter and then you get rekt by the f2p price model which exists even AFTER you payed to get in. 

Don't bring that ppl need to get payed bullshit. They sold an ass ton of copies because they know how the game ended up in other regions. So they did b2p without changing the f2p bs just to be sure they made money off of people in case the game ends up like the other regions. Every patch is already made in Korea so all they are doing is giving us stuff that's already been made and they have to only keep balance in check and keep the servers up. They aren't doing much but demand these prices. Silly don't you think? 

 

Every other game with a cash shop has armor in the game you can get and not look like how you did at level one. EVERY GAME. Also! Those games arent selling their cash shop stuff for more than $15. 

Oh and its one dye you might want to at least know what you're trying to argue with. Because it says one in nice big letters. 

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This isn't the first b2p in history... You're blindly defending it just like that other person. I don't care about the prices but for how much they are going for just shows what their true intentions are. I don't mind looking like a pleb since stated armor isn't on the cash shop. Armor BARELY changes and you will most likely be using one main set till the new armors with media/valencia arrive and after that? You will have those armors for many more months and guess what? You ill look 99% the same as the other armor with some different lines or maybe a tiny metal piece on your gear. Currently there is no way to turn that gear into a costume and guess what? The ticket have a big chance of being in the cash shop. 

Our version is the only b2p version and on top of that we get ass-----ed to pay the same prices as other areas where the game is free. This is not a b2p model. Its a money grab to enter and then you get rekt by the f2p price model which exists even AFTER you payed to get in. 

Don't bring that ppl need to get payed bullshit. They sold an ass ton of copies because they know how the game ended up in other regions. So they did b2p without changing the f2p bs just to be sure they made money off of people in case the game ends up like the other regions. Every patch is already made in Korea so all they are doing is giving us stuff that's already been made and they have to only keep balance in check and keep the servers up. They aren't doing much but demand these prices. Silly don't you think? 

 

Every other game with a cash shop has armor in the game you can get and not look like how you did at level one. EVERY GAME. Also! Those games arent selling their cash shop stuff for more than $15. 

Oh and its one dye you might want to at least know what you're trying to argue with. Because it says one in nice big letters. 

...and your head is clearly, and firmly placed in the sand with your blinders still firmly in place. 
Somehow you know insider information on the exact motivations behind every decision made for this game, so clearly you are right. 
Good day sir.

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...and your head is clearly, and firmly placed in the sand with your blinders still firmly in place. Somehow you know insider information on the exact motivations behind every decision made for this game, so clearly you are right. 
Good day sir.

Do your research before you want to be a big boy and go out insulting people blindly. Ignorant and clueless ''good sir'' 

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Wow, you have really drunk the Daum Kool-aid, haven't you?

 

If Daum "respected their community" then they would offer the costumes at a reasonable price, or they would make appropriate changes to them so they could, for example, be traded between characters on an account, or be available account-wide, or something of that nature.

They clearly haven't done this and have shown no intention of doing so, so clearly they don't respect their community, at least where the cash shop is concerned.  They've stuck the highest price tag they think they can get away with on literally everything in the store (BDO is by far the most expensive cash shop in all of gaming) which leads me to believe that they didn't do any market research.  This topic is so prevalent and so controversial precisely because it looks really damn greedy.  Personally, I'll spend my complementary pearls and then I'm out.  I won't make a cash shop purchase until Daum's policies and attitude change.

 

lol I'm not even spending my conquerer pearls.

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Do your research before you want to be a big boy and go out insulting people blindly. Ignorant and clueless ''good sir'' 

lol right, right, 

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Im leaving because of the costumes as well but for a different reason. I will not support their choice to make us wear crap looking armor with no hope of ever "looking cool" unless we spend real money. No other games tries to force you into spending like that. Part of the fun in games for me is finding/using cool looking stuff. Not possible here.  M

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TL:DR from the recent Q&A.

The prices are the price, they are a company and need to make money. Plenty are buying at this price, don't expect a change. If you're not buying, others will.

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I didn't even read the replies but I already know there's a ton of fanboys/trolls defending the game they've only been playing for a week.

Costumes are there to be exclusive, its the most expensive and valueable item on the market, it was meant for people  who really want it, to save up and get it.

they arent sox, and their value stands well priced compared to other items.

If you are not willing to pay this price, then its simply not worth it in your eyes, and its okay. they want to make costumes feel PREMIUMS rather than cheap and disposable.

This isnt tera cashgrab greedy companies, who sell costumes as cheap as possible as stupid looking as possible just to cashout on the back of poor kids. 

Daum rather respect their community and offer high quality, in small quantity and price tag that will make people appreciate their "investment" into the costume. they stated that they dont want costumes to become sox, where people change them every 1 hour.

Daum isn't a greedy cashgrab like Tera? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Daum is even worse imo, and the game's been out for 2 weeks.

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I didn't even read the replies but I already know there's a ton of fanboys/trolls defending the game they've only been playing for a week.

Daum isn't a greedy cashgrab like Tera? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Daum is even worse imo, and the game's been out for 2 weeks.

Hi, player here that spent a year on both KR and JP (split time between groups of friends) and if you would like to play those free versions they are there for you, Free, and you will deal with a game breaking cash shop, among other things that are way over the line of "P2W"  but hey, at least it's free. 
You'll just have to pay for all the extra hairstyles, inv and weight upgrades, and a few other things before you have everything that we get included with our version's B2P model.

But by all means, play the free versions, please.  

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Their cash shop plan is the path to failure.  Offering lower prices on outfits would mean that people would buy more, it is that simple.  I am the sort who buys cosmetic goodies for my characters but at these prices my wallet is closed.  No amount of fanboi flailing justifies those prices.

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If you learn the LORE behind the fish costume, you would know. but you dont, and make urself look stupid.

and everything you said is one big pile of nosense. if you want tera go play tera, dont try to change this game into that.

So fish cosplay costumes has lore behind them now?

Ok... C'mon man, please don't be such a whiteknight.

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Their cash shop plan is the path to failure.  Offering lower prices on outfits would mean that people would buy more, it is that simple.  I am the sort who buys cosmetic goodies for my characters but at these prices my wallet is closed.  No amount of fanboi flailing justifies those prices.

Ok, don't buy, that's your choice, that's why they are optional items.

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So fish cosplay costumes has lore behind them now?

Ok... C'mon man, please don't be such a whiteknight.

... they do though? There's like a whole -----ing island devoted to the fish lore stuff. You obviously haven't played enough.

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Uhhh

*hides all his costumes when he notices hostile about it*

*joins conversation to blend*

Yeah! Reduce prices!

*walks away slowly*

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