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[UPDATED] Daum - Why the hell can't we trade or mail items to friends?


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Does anyone research the games they buy nowadays or does everyone just buy them and then demand them to be turned into the next X clone.

It's not like this was breaking news that you couldn't trade, next time do a shred of research and if it's not what you want ... don't buy it.

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Does anyone research the games they buy nowadays or does everyone just buy them and then demand them to be turned into the next X clone.

It's not like this was breaking news that you couldn't trade, next time do a shred of research and if it's not what you want ... don't buy it.

I knew, I disliked it, I think the game would be better if you could trade.

If you think being able to give items to someone else makes this game a clone of anything, you must have very limited criteria.

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I knew, I disliked it, I think the game would be better if you could trade.

If you think being able to give items to someone else makes this game a clone of anything, you must have very limited criteria.

Your adorable.

The point still stands, if you knew this is what to expect going in then why act like you're shocked and expect it to change?

If you didn't know this is what to expect, do some research in the future.

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Does anyone research the games they buy nowadays or does everyone just buy them and then demand them to be turned into the next X clone.

It's not like this was breaking news that you couldn't trade, next time do a shred of research and if it's not what you want ... don't buy it.

The game had trading in its description last year, and it also had trade steal AND different types of guild. All this thread is trying to do is re-implement what was disabled, we aint asking for a unicorn to come out of nowhere LOL.

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Player1 : dude, imma start cooking today so I can wear that sweet outfit

Player2: cool, is perfect, I got 300 (insert ingredient here) so you can go fluck yoursel and buy this in the market instead of me trading this to you. Obviously thats the best thing, after all I have no care about this ingredients and was actually gonna trow it away BUT why not just sell it to you?



Real life logic, lets apply this:

Dude 1: Dude you got any soda?

Dude2: yep, in the fridge

Duude 1: ok, cool. Can I have it?

Dude2: yea sure dude, lemme just post it on ebay so you can get it later.



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Perfect!  I love it!

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No trading isn't only in place to stop gold sellers.  The entire market system and tax system also relies on all trades going through the market system so taxes can be collected and distributed to the owning guilds. 

Allowing player to player trading will ruin this whole, very important system in BDO. 

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No trading isn't only in place to stop gold sellers.  The entire market system and tax system also relies on all trades going through the market system so taxes can be collected and distributed to the owning guilds. 

Allowing player to player trading will ruin this whole, very important system in BDO. 

Every MMO out there in the last 10 years has had trading and marketplaces in game.  Funny how all those games seem to be doing just fine. 

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Every MMO out there in the last 10 years has had trading and marketplaces in game.  Funny how all those games seem to be doing just fine. 

None of those games have the conquest and guild payment systems BDO does.  It's not even a valid comparison. 

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None of those games have the conquest and guild payment systems BDO does.  It's not even a valid comparison. 

Yeah, none of them have these systems.  BDO is the holy grail of MMOs and can do no wrong and it's perfect in every way.

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Yeah, none of them have these systems.  BDO is the holy grail of MMOs and can do no wrong and it's perfect in every way.

Indeed, and your ad hominem doesn't change the fact that entire game systems were built around restricting player trading. 

It really doesn't matter if every other MMO allows player trading.  This one doesn't and it's to support a lot more other systems in the game than just being a gold seller deterrent. Thinking they can just turn it on shows some real ignorance in BDO game structure.   

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fact that entire game systems were built around restricting player trading.

Bullshit.  Also "Thinking they can turn it on shows real ignorance" really?  Because there's already trading in the game it's just limited.  But yeah, I'm the ignorant one, LOL.

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Because we all know how gold sellers destroyed wow right?  How many people are still playing it?  This is supposed to be a sandbox for ----- sake.  

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havent seen one gold spammer yet and ive been on 24/7.. it has been wonderful.. please do not give in to the very vocal few.

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Your adorable.

The point still stands, if you knew this is what to expect going in then why act like you're shocked and expect it to change?

If you didn't know this is what to expect, do some research in the future.

I'm not acting shocked by it not having trading! If anything, I'm shocked at how vehemently people oppose trading, and the constant insinuation that somehow I'm pro-RMT because I think interpersonal trades can make the game better.

That's my whole angle here. I'm racking up a ton of time in this game, and there's so much about it I love that I've become completely immersed in it and don't even care about leveling up, cause I'm too busy! Who's got time to fight imps when you gotta tend to yo crops after you talk to some dwarves?

My first post on this forum was about how much I loved the game in ways I didn't expect, but wished I could do things like give other players items and play as dwarves. It hasn't changed. I don't play games with a grim acceptance that things I don't like about them will never change and I should just accept it and be done with it. I'm vocal about what I think could be done to improve things when a game is still in active development, and dawg guess what, every MMO is always in active development. 

I want trading because I think the co-operative potential in the non-combat skills is immense, if we could just tag more items as tradeable. Do you say the same things to people who are upset about cash shop prices and the dye system being an insane mess? Because my desire for player to player trade comes from the exact same place: I've fallen in love with this game, but I think there's parts that could be much better if the game just opened itself up.

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I like what PA set out to achieve by not including P2P trading.

I do however feel the lack of any collaboration between players on tasks is a great loss. EG, building a fishing boat together.

I hope ways can be found to allow us to work together to achieve some of the tasks the game offers.

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As far as i can tell from chat and asking around, none of the Gold-sellers have yet delivered anything.

I doubt they will either. And once the guest passes dry up, so will these scammers.

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havent seen one gold spammer yet and ive been on 24/7.. it has been wonderful.. please do not give in to the very vocal few.

There are already gold / RMT sellers in the game, lmao.  "Vocal few" okay that's why the survey for re-enabling trading came in favor of "yes"

I'm not acting shocked by it not having trading! If anything, I'm shocked at how vehemently people oppose trading, and the constant insinuation that somehow I'm pro-RMT because I think interpersonal trades can make the game better.

That's my whole angle here. I'm racking up a ton of time in this game, and there's so much about it I love that I've become completely immersed in it and don't even care about leveling up, cause I'm too busy! Who's got time to fight imps when you gotta tend to yo crops after you talk to some dwarves?

My first post on this forum was about how much I loved the game in ways I didn't expect, but wished I could do things like give other players items and play as dwarves. It hasn't changed. I don't play games with a grim acceptance that things I don't like about them will never change and I should just accept it and be done with it. I'm vocal about what I think could be done to improve things when a game is still in active development, and dawg guess what, every MMO is always in active development. 

I want trading because I think the co-operative potential in the non-combat skills is immense, if we could just tag more items as tradeable. Do you say the same things to people who are upset about cash shop prices and the dye system being an insane mess? Because my desire for player to player trade comes from the exact same place: I've fallen in love with this game, but I think there's parts that could be much better if the game just opened itself up.

I still have yet to figure that out either.  Like if you want to just use the market fine but all these people so against it really just make me scratch my head.  Not sure what the deal is here.

As far as i can tell from chat and asking around, none of the Gold-sellers have yet delivered anything.

I doubt they will either. And once the guest passes dry up, so will these scammers.

Oh well if you asked around and saw it from chat then it's gotta be 100% confirmed fact.

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Because of the "wont want gold selling community, im everyday online, i should be the best player" because i have no life besides playing but with gold sellers casual people get the gear too and thats not supposed to happen obviously because i cant own them then. 

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There are already gold / RMT sellers in the game, lmao.  "Vocal few" okay that's why the survey for re-enabling trading came in favor of "yes"

I still have yet to figure that out either.  Like if you want to just use the market fine but all these people so against it really just make me scratch my head.  Not sure what the deal is here.

Oh well if you asked around and saw it from chat then it's gotta be 100% confirmed fact.

-shrug- Just because it interferes with your narrow minded viewpoint doesn't make it irrelevant.

As to your poll. Completely meaningless since the forum *IS* the vocal minority. A very, VERY small minority. Most players are completely happy to just play the game. INCLUDING NO TRADING.

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Ok Keth so why don't you tell me why you personally don't want trading.  Since you appear to have a strong opinion against it.  I want to hear your personal reason why you think an MMO is fine without trading.  I'm also not narrow minded.  I've in this thread said that the one merit this system has is making things harder for RMT.  Not a good enough excuse to limit trading so hard.  This is a -----ing MMO - social interaction should be encouraged, not limited.

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I've posted it in other threads, feel free to look it up. It's not a secret.

It's 2:20am here now, and my fisher is ready to afk fish, so it's goodnight from me.

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I've posted it in other threads, feel free to look it up. It's not a secret.

It's 2:20am here now, and my fisher is ready to afk fish, so it's goodnight from me.

In other words you have no good reason.  Got it.  You're the one who is so staunchly against the notion of trading so it's not on me to go looking for your reasons as to why, lmao.  Can't even defend your own stance on something you seem so invested in. 

Good night.  May your AFK fishing overnight be more tolerated than trading.

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There are already gold / RMT sellers in the game, lmao.  "Vocal few" okay that's why the survey for re-enabling trading came in favor of "yes"

I still have yet to figure that out either.  Like if you want to just use the market fine but all these people so against it really just make me scratch my head.  Not sure what the deal is here.

Oh well if you asked around and saw it from chat then it's gotta be 100% confirmed fact.

There's a difference between gold spammers and "we steal your account the moment you give it to us and offer no actual service" spammers.

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You guys have been busy little bees since i was asleep. 

I'll just address everything in a concise manner because it's far too much effort to address everyone individually!

 

NEWSFLASH

The game currently has trade, have you seen goldsellers ruining the game?

You can't ruin a fixed market

Unless 90% of players want to avoid the market (LOLOLOLOL) P2P Trade could not upset the market.

(Not to mention if 90% of the people wanted to avoid the market you should just change it)

Was there any other arguments against Trade?

 

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I am sure there is definitely an issue, that's why they didn't bother changing it come from KR >> RU now to NA/EU 

 

B|

Like you have said, trade system is already in this game, do you honestly think the developers did not explicitly design the game so you cannot trade anything else other than potions?

 

Wish there is an active mod that will lock this thread

 

Beside you keep ignoring what other people have said as if they haven't address your concern. Yes, gold-sellers do ruin the game. 

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