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I'll eat humble pie - We do need player trading


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I based my prior opinion on the delights of having zero gold seller spam in chat and gold buyers owning everything.

Now I have played the game I have to admit my albeit honest opinion, was totally misguided and incorrect.  Lack of player trading has really cut off a huge reason to be social in this game, and I mean especially in this game where the world is so rich and lifelike.

Now I'm still not sure about full and unrestricted player to player trading, but how about a mid-way deal where we can trade with people in our guild?  To stop or restrict as much as humanly possible abuses of the system, Daum could get put in place a 72 hour cooldown after leaving a guild before you can join another maybe?!

I don't know but there really should be trading beyond what we have now and somewhere between everyone's head they should be able to come up with a system that a complete pain in the arse for sellers..

Can I have some gravy to go with this pie please?

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Nope still better not having gold sellers.

 

----- off pls.. The Marketplace works just fine.

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I like the fact that everything in game is what I earned.   Not just logging in and having some powerlevelling guildie give me everything I need.

I feel like I am accomplishing something, and not just leeching off of friends/guildmates.

 

You can still be social.  Too low level to go farm certain mats?  HIgh level friend comes with you to protect you while you gather.

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YES, and cash shop items on the AH, and black stones on the marketplace.

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I see players being social all the time. If you are looking for goods to be sold, the marketplace should suffice, regulated prices make most goods easily affordable.

The only thing no trading hampers is trading items to players but at a non enchanted level even the gear sells very cheap on the marketplace.

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Honestly I'd love to be able to trade more items with other players.  Been playing a lot with my girlfriend and I keep getting drops that she needs but I can't trade them to her because "gold sellers might use it".

 

Wish they could just figure out a better way to keep gold sellers out but still let people socialize in the game.

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This game has more social aspects to the game than most mmo's with player trading enabeld.. and that is because it's complex and partying up actually gives more benefits. 

The problem with enabeling trade will be the gold spammers that return and the spam that will go on in the chat.. the social aspect of each other helping will be lost.

 

Now I do think there should be something added to the marketplace and that is to input a BUY order instead of a selling order.

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YES, and cash shop items on the AH, and black stones on the marketplace.

No to cash shop items on the AH and black stones have been there since day 1.

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Nope still better not having gold sellers.

 

----- off pls.. The Marketplace works just fine.

We do have gold sellers.

Restricting trade does nothing.
Every single attempt a MMO has made to reduce gold sellers only -----s with legit players.
Gold sellers will find a way just like they have.


Using that as an argument is ridiculous.

 

You guys are delusional if you think restricting trade will stop gold sellers. lol.

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No to cash shop items on the AH and black stones have been there since day 1.

Yes to cash shop items on the AH and where are these black stones.. You're going to make me look

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Yes to cash shop items on the AH and where are these black stones.. You're going to make me look

You do realize the Market place is the Auction House?

 

and the cash shop is the Pearl Store.
I'm going to assume whoever responded to you initially was referring to that.

Yes blackstones are on the Marketplace no they are not in the pearlstore.

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Gold sellers will find a way just like they have.

They found a way because there is trade. See how that works? 

If they removed the ability to trade potions, or made traded potions unsellable then there would be no way for gold sellers to have a business.

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We do have gold sellers.
Restricting trade does nothing.
Every single attempt a MMO has made to reduce gold sellers only -----s with legit players.
Gold sellers will find a way just like they have.


Using that as an argument is ridiculous.

 

You guys are delusional if you think restricting trade will stop gold sellers. lol.

Fully restricted trade does stop gold sellers. What it doesn't stop are powerleveling services and account selling, which have less of an impact on the game and are also stopped in much different ways.

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We do have gold sellers.
Restricting trade does nothing.
Every single attempt a MMO has made to reduce gold sellers only -----s with legit players.
Gold sellers will find a way just like they have.


Using that as an argument is ridiculous.

 

You guys are delusional if you think restricting trade will stop gold sellers. lol.

Yeah how do you sell gold without gold to sell?  Can't trade it, can't sell it.

 

There is only 1 loophole with an easy fix currently. All they need to fix is making it so pots/consumables cannot be sold for silver after being traded.

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Ok if not payer to player trading, just some way I can make stuff for guildies...  I'm not an up front PvP'er, I've always been more of a support type with lots of crafting.

Just looking for a system that allows me to support the guild within my sphere of particular interest and skills.

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Yes to cash shop items on the AH and where are these black stones.. You're going to make me look

They specifically sold this version on the promise that there would be no cash shop items on the AH; if they did that they'd have to honor a whole lot of refunds and possibly be on the hook for false advertisement.

Check the section marked "black stones" to find the black stones ;)

Weapon stones have been averaging 400-500k, armor 200-300k

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You do realize the Market place is the Auction House?

 

and the cash shop is the Pearl Store.
I'm going to assume whoever responded to you initially was referring to that.

Yes blackstones are on the Marketplace no they are not in the pearlstore.

Maybe a mis-read. I want to buy black stones with real money, but that's off topic.

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Or if you're not going to have player trading, help us at least make it easier to level with our friends if they're just getting into the game. 

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They specifically sold this version on the promise that there would be no cash shop items on the AH; if they did that they'd have to honor a whole lot of refunds and possibly be on the hook for false advertisement.
Check the section marked "black stones" to find the black stones ;)

I certainly do NOT want CS shit on the Market - No way, but thats not what this thread is about..

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Maybe a mis-read. I want to buy black stones with real money, but that's off topic.

Oh, then absolutely hell to the f**king no.

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Maybe a mis-read. I want to buy black stones with real money, but that's off topic.

Me too.
 

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Yeah how do you sell gold without gold to sell?  Can't trade it, can't sell it.

 

There is only 1 loophole with an easy fix currently. All they need to fix is making it so pots/consumables cannot be sold for silver after being traded.

That OR make the current potions unreadable and add new ones that CAN be traded but have zero resale value by default. If you buy them you have the option to trade them, but never the option to resell.

old potions just stay as normal, not tradable but able to be resold if you want to.

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Why not make everything worth 1 copper or 1 silver like Blade and Soul does.

Doesn't matter what it is it -----ing sells for 1 copper. GG. lol.

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They specifically sold this version on the promise that there would be no cash shop items on the AH; if they did that they'd have to honor a whole lot of refunds and possibly be on the hook for false advertisement.
 

NO, they said no CS items on AH for launch. So they already honored that statement.

No way for it to be false advertisement. If they change, I don't know. But they haven't lied about this part.

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Why not make everything worth 1 copper or 1 silver like Blade and Soul does.

Doesn't matter what it is it -----ing sells for 1 copper. GG. lol.

I heard BnS had more gold sellers than players already, haven't played myself though...

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