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Your thoughts on PvP

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So,  many of you are already 50+ by now.

Could you share your thoughts on how well/bad is the ranger doing in pvp?

I'd like to hear some ''pros'' if they are facerolling as in korea or struggling vs other classes.

Thanks-

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We dont stand a chance against Sorcs, but everyone else its either advatange or equal.

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We dont stand a chance against Sorcs, but everyone else its either advatange or equal.

Skill of both the ranger and the sorcerer, along with who has the opening advantage play a big part in this matchup. Sorcs can be evapourated by ucw just like any other.

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Skill of both the ranger and the sorcerer, along with who has the opening advantage play a big part in this matchup. Sorcs can be evapourated by ucw just like any other.

UCW?

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UCW?

Ultimate Charging Wind

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ranger can burn anything, it's all about good timing of skills, you need accuracy though, no accuracy = no dmg for rangers.

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Warrior/Valk is the hardest match-up imo if they're geared.
Sorcs can 2 shot you if they land a knockdown but they'll also get 2 shot if they miss an iframe.

Giants are a joke for ranger, wizard's only chance is to land a 100% on top of you. Tamer will lose if you have enough space to move around.
Basically a really strong class. Anything can be beaten if you play well enough. 

I have NO accuracy though. Not sure how much it influences my PvP damage not to have bronze dagger but it's possible I won't be as efficient as I should be until mediah boss gloves and kzarka/liverto.

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I'm level 52 currently, haven't had many issues with PvP. Only people that seem to have a strong advantage over me are sorcs, having the space to kite them for a long period of time makes them easier, but open world fighting isn't always in opportune areas. Besides the odd sorc, as most are pretty bad and walk into shotgun, only thing that ever gets me is a level 53 wizard on my channel. 

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I have some issues with Tamers (a least one of them) they got a ranged stun that somehow always manages to hit me, i really need to train against them but there are really to few of them to effectively duel them in Arena to see what they are all about.

Sorc seems to be really weak against EES spam, the iframe seems to be useless against it.

Valkyrie is probably the hardest for me if she knows how to play.

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It's nice to see that everyone has found his/her nemesis but its also nice to hear that people are enjoying the class and are winning some and losing some : ).

I found that accuracy is super important , especially when fighting good geared/higher level opponents. It makes it or breaks it , so when I engage a fight and see that i miss a lot i switch to bronze and come back. The loss in AP is noticeable but hitting for some is definitely better then not hitting at all.

I find sorceress and good warriors annoying the most, sorc twitching all over the place is hard to land a good chain on them while getting behind a warrior can be really demanding!

 

 

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I'm level 52 currently, haven't had many issues with PvP. Only people that seem to have a strong advantage over me are sorcs, having the space to kite them for a long period of time makes them easier, but open world fighting isn't always in opportune areas. Besides the odd sorc, as most are pretty bad and walk into shotgun, only thing that ever gets me is a level 53 wizard on my channel. 

Could you post a link to your current build? If it doesn't bother you, trying to get build together from a few people to see what people go for!

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I can't say since I'm still a two weeks old newb :P but other high lvl rangers in my guild don't seem to have big problems in pvp.

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My first few encounters I was using steel dagger and got annihilated. After switching to bronze I've two or three shot everyone I've faced. Sorcs, as many have said, seem to be our biggest issue. 

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ranger can burn anything, it's all about good timing of skills, you need accuracy though, no accuracy = no dmg for rangers.

How high should my accuracy before I stop worrying about it

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Could you post a link to your current build? If it doesn't bother you, trying to get build together from a few people to see what people go for!

This is my current build. I dropped $30 on reset tokens last weekend, so I've been screwing around with different things. I'm probably going to use 1 to remove the points in Spirit Healing and Moving Shot, transitioning those points into Descending Current. I didn't notice any significant change in damage from taking Moving Shot (There was a discussion thread on whether it was worth putting points into), and Spirit Healing just saves me money. Having 20mil+, I don't really need it anymore. 

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@Ayl, having only one point in Bow Skill is enough? Just curious, since most builds I have seen have it maxed out, is it really that irrelevant? O.o

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@Ayl, having only one point in Bow Skill is enough? Just curious, since most builds I have seen have it maxed out, is it really that irrelevant? O.o

In the link I provided, I have Bow Skill maxed out at rank 10. Double checked just to make sure. Dunno what you're looking at. 

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In the link I provided, I have Bow Skill maxed out at rank 10. Double checked just to make sure. Dunno what you're looking at. 

Oh ok, that is strange, the first time I saw it, it was a completely different build...sorry about that, the internet gremlin must playing tricks on me. :o

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How high should my accuracy before I stop worrying about it

i don't want to share this information, however.. you can easely discover how

How high should my accuracy before I stop worrying about it

i don't want to share this information, however.. you can easely discover how

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i don't want to share this information, however.. you can easely discover how

So useful. 

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Koreans also called this period the golden time of rangers. It gets much harder for ranger once other classes get their awakening, since ranger awakening is considered the worst one with tamer, its pretty much useless for the ranger playstyle. So right now ranger was so powerful it was even nerfed in korea, i guess na/eu already got these nerfs. But ranger doesn't it the need the awakening anyway, even after 56 ranger is still able to stand his ground, just not so easy like currently anymore.

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Warrior/Valk is the hardest match-up imo if they're geared.
Sorcs can 2 shot you if they land a knockdown but they'll also get 2 shot if they miss an iframe.

Giants are a joke for ranger, wizard's only chance is to land a 100% on top of you. Tamer will lose if you have enough space to move around.
Basically a really strong class. Anything can be beaten if you play well enough. 

I have NO accuracy though. Not sure how much it influences my PvP damage not to have bronze dagger but it's possible I won't be as efficient as I should be until mediah boss gloves and kzarka/liverto.

I'm level 52 currently, haven't had many issues with PvP. Only people that seem to have a strong advantage over me are sorcs, having the space to kite them for a long period of time makes them easier, but open world fighting isn't always in opportune areas. Besides the odd sorc, as most are pretty bad and walk into shotgun, only thing that ever gets me is a level 53 wizard on my channel. 

How do you both deal with wizards in such a closed off area like serendia shrine? This is where I'm having the most issues, gotta practice my shotgunning as I usually dont get that off.

need to learn how to cancel the part after shotgun too

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This is my current build. I dropped $30 on reset tokens last weekend, so I've been screwing around with different things. I'm probably going to use 1 to remove the points in Spirit Healing and Moving Shot, transitioning those points into Descending Current. I didn't notice any significant change in damage from taking Moving Shot (There was a discussion thread on whether it was worth putting points into), and Spirit Healing just saves me money. Having 20mil+, I don't really need it anymore. 

Ah thanks!

This is my current build right now, I'll be going for Penetrating Wind and 1 Point in Tearing Arrow and the two Flow skills next, then Descending Current next while I grind to 53.

Currently I'm lv 51 and I feel like it will take a while before I hit 53.. Some time soon I will be removing my points in Spirit Healing too, only at 5 Mil right now but that is plenty enough for me.

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Koreans also called this period the golden time of rangers. It gets much harder for ranger once other classes get their awakening, since ranger awakening is considered the worst one with tamer, its pretty much useless for the ranger playstyle. So right now ranger was so powerful it was even nerfed in korea, i guess na/eu already got these nerfs. But ranger doesn't it the need the awakening anyway, even after 56 ranger is still able to stand his ground, just not so easy like currently anymore.

 

lol what? O_o

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCcVeIhUZyY&pxtry=2

 

Please dont spread misinformation , thank you :) .

I'm not going to link you also a video with the awakening for the tamer , which in fact fixes and balances the class (finally) , since this is the ranger forum but I invite you to do some research .

 



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Why use "will of the wind" in a pvpbuild? And why not use frontal kick as it knocks down players. Wouldnt that be smart if the other classes manages to get too close to you? charging kick and jump back?

 

 

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