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Horse Breeding / Findings - Part Two

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52 pages, shouldn't we go for a part 3 ?

no, we only have a part 2 because a patch changed the rate at which higher tiers given from breeding.

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Soo.... Results of T4 male lvl11 + T3 female lvl15: T4 male unfortunately. Time to level up another female and then hope for exchange i guess

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Second breeding of my T4 (28) + T4 (28)    = T6 male.

Two T6 males from that pairing, very cool.  Still need to try for a T6 female though... maybe I'll get lucky with the trade in...

 

 

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Bred my 2 t4 horses again, level 20 male and 21 female. This time I were not as lucky and recieved a t4 female in return.

 

Went for the exchange and got another t6 male.

 

 

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Currently leveling up my blue/white (male) and purple (female) t4 pair.  Gonna go along with the Russian calculator and shoot for two lv.30s to see if I can bring in that t6 mare.

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So what is the consensus about the starter T5 horses we got?

Are they nerfed crapola horses, or are they real T5s?    Should we be breeding them with T5 F's or not?

 

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So what is the consensus about the starter T5 horses we got?

Are they nerfed crapola horses, or are they real T5s?    Should we be breeding them with T5 F's or not?

 

There have been multiple reports that they are bad but I have yet to see a report done with a T4/T5 female breeding with the T5 male, both at appropriate levels. Unless I missed something, all the results have been from lower level/tier horses being bred. Mine, for instance, was a T1 female breeding with a lowbie marketplace T5 male that had multiple deaths. Outcome was a T2. 

 

@Mirri did say that the Russian headstart horse was worse and he/she has been a wealth of information. 

I think @Haiimbelle also bred a T5 marketplace horse with one of her own and I remember the outcome was bad. As did @Fiain maybe? It's been a few days and I'm kinda sick so sorry if I have misrememebred. 

 

@WildAce, did you have a T5 Conq pack horse or nah? 

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I have not gotten a T5 female to use with my conq horse, and it feels like a poor choice to lvl up since it only has 1 breed chance, and i doubt i would ever exchange, and since i have other T5 males i don't know if i will ever get around to lvling up my conq T5 as long as i have other T5 males to breed.

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Any information on horses that look like these? They're the main reason why I started breeding in the first place. From the pictures of the full list of horses people posted it seems like that horse appearance isn't in game yet? I also looked at the full Korean horse list and they seemed to have blacked out boxes compared to the other horses which have gray boxes. Does that mean this type of style is a premium or perhaps part of an expansion? 

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These are my favorite too! There are T6-T8s that have this style. These are actually my pics of my horses from KR that I submitted to that site. I can't remember if the pre T7/T8 horses get this look before Mediah update. The one you linked I bought on the horse market, but I did breed this grey one below (T6-F) personally in KR.

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The parents were both T5 level 23's, F= dark blue/orange braid, M= grey "emo" long black hair.  This pairing also gave me a T7 M with the same body shape white body/black hair. This of course was on Korea client so results may vary, I'm hoping I can get these again soon in NA though. I'm considering stopping at T5 and getting my stock up since they said Media was releasing "soon".

 

yea.......that does not look like a t6 or atleast it not in the list i know of

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it's on the lower left of the T6 section. The horse icons are slightly different for the pink looking ones than what the color is in game.

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I really wish T7 was out, it feels like a waste breeding my high T5 pair in a day or so. :/ I guess I breed once and stop with the female if it is a T6 until I have a new T5/6 female.

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nm, sorry - was replying to an older post without realizing, someone already gave the answer way back

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Soo.... Results of T4 male lvl11 + T3 female lvl15: T4 male unfortunately. Time to level up another female and then hope for exchange i guess

DAMN! well, i'll still do it...3 more levels to go.  decided to skip the lvl 12 Tier 3 now...lol

 

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Got superlucky and got a T3 female who got Sprint at Lvl 2 >:D
So I sold my T1 lvl 20 Sprint one for 700-800k, can't remember.
 
More results while playing the stable game (rearranging the horses since I like systems):
 
Note: I'm writing down all my breeding since patch, I'm italicizing those two I've written in this thread before for those keeping stats. Just figured it was easier to see a possible pattern listing them like this
 
 
Female T2 foal:
Exchanged
T1 -- Lvl 2 male, grey
T1 -- Lvl 12 female, brown
(brown and black foal)
 
Female T3 foals:
T1 -- Lvl 20 male, grey -- 1 death
T1 -- lvl 12 female, brown
(yellow)
 
T2 -- Lvl 12 male, brown with golden mane
T2 -- Lvl 12 female, brown with black mane
(yellow)
 
T2 -- Lvl 12 male, brown with black mane
T2 -- Lvl 12 female, brown with black mane
(grey)
 
T3 male foals: (suddenly had too many females T1/T2 and needed some males after having four T3 females in my stables so I experimented)
T2 -- Lvl 8 male brown with golden mane
T2 -- Lvl 2 female brown with black mane
(brown braided)
 
T2 -- Lvl 12 male, brown with golden mane
T1 -- Lvl 5 female, brown
(brown braided- was hoping to get a slightly better male ha)
 
T4 male foals:
T1 -- Lvl 20 male, grey -- 1 death
T2 -- Lvl 12 female, brown with black hair
(brown with white spiky hair)
 
T2 -- Lvl 12 male, brown with black hair
T2 -- Lvl 12 female, brown with black hair
(dark grey with white fluffy hair)
 
Exchanged
T2 -- Lvl 12 male, brown with black hair
T2 -- Lvl 12 female, brown with black hair
(grey, yellow tail)
 
 
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As for the sugarless taming approach:
T1 catching horses T1:
37 secs starting when standing close and the horse icon pops up: 12 successes, 9 fails
36 secs: 3, 5
33: 2, 5
 
There's probably variation due to starting the stopwatch at slightly faster or slower times. Perhaps 37 seconds is actually 36.
Haven't caught that many T2 actually, they hide well.
 
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Somewhere along the lines the quoted posts disappeared. I was replying to the one about contribution points and one other. oh well. Here's one of the replies

If you're new and/ or have few contribution points, I wouldn't do it. Though, depends on what other things you do in the game. I do some trading and stuff, so I need my points elsewhere. I have two upgraded stables after playing for 2 weeks or what is it now. Going to upgrade a third one today.

If you're only focusing on breeding, maybe it's worth it. But it takes some time to catch 20+ horses for them to be in. So I guess it depends.

 

 

 

 

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My T3 female just learend sprint at lvl12. That skill really is annoying when not at 100% because i can`t sprint normal anymore. Or is there any trick to it? (except removing the saddle obviously)

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Why don't you train it up right away? Or train until you're bored and remove the saddle?

 

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Do you all think that the breeding algorithm simply uses the total horse xp of each horse to determine the breeding result (with some rng of course) and disregards the horse tiers? What I mean is, do you think the algorithm regards (say) a T1 with 100,000 total xp exactly the same as a T3 with 100,000 total xp? 

I've started training and breeding a little, and wondered about this as my first breeding of a T1f/L21 with a T2m/L21 produced a T4m (which I was surprised and happy with!)

On a different note, I'm really enjoying reading all your posts and findings, thanks for all the pics and data. I wonder if there is a standard we could adpot to show a breeding result (my eyes and brain go funny sometimes processing the tier/level/sex/exchange info in this thread!). For a Tier 1 male Level 5 breeding with a Tier 2 female Level 8 and producing a Tier 3 male for example, maybe something like (1,5)+(2,8) = 3M , and for an exchange: (1,5)+(2,8) x 2F. Just a thought, ignore me if I'm just confusing an already simple thing!

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On a different note, I'm really enjoying reading all your posts and findings, thanks for all the pics and data. I wonder if there is a standard we could adpot to show a breeding result (my eyes and brain go funny sometimes processing the tier/level/sex/exchange info in this thread!). For a Tier 1 male Level 5 breeding with a Tier 2 female Level 8 and producing a Tier 3 male for example, maybe something like (1,5)+(2,8) = 3M , and for an exchange: (1,5)+(2,8) x 2F. Just a thought, ignore me if I'm just confusing an already simple thing!

Yeah, some results are written in a way that feels a bit messy to me (though I guess this is a result of thinking in different ways where different presentations work for different people). There's been 1-3 posts where I couldn't even make out the breeding at all in longer confusing paragraphs.

I prefer when people include the coat, though, as I do think it might impact probability of getting certain coats. Like the T1 grey + brown mix can give brown and black or white and brown T2. I don't know if those two colors are possible with two brown T1?

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 The RNG gods are with me on this horse  I think I may have one of the fastest  in NA atm

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These are my favorite too! There are T6-T8s that have this style. These are actually my pics of my horses from KR that I submitted to that site. I can't remember if the pre T7/T8 horses get this look before Mediah update. The one you linked I bought on the horse market, but I did breed this grey one below (T6-F) personally in KR.

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The parents were both T5 level 23's, F= dark blue/orange braid, M= grey "emo" long black hair.  This pairing also gave me a T7 M with the same body shape white body/black hair. This of course was on Korea client so results may vary, I'm hoping I can get these again soon in NA though. I'm considering stopping at T5 and getting my stock up since they said Media was releasing "soon".

 

it's on the lower left of the T6 section. The horse icons are slightly different for the pink looking ones than what the color is in game.

Oh my thanks for taking those wonderful screenshots! That horse breed is my dream horseeee, I wish the best to you in hopes you'll get that luscious beast again :)

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I just for info, i ve seen some ppl ask "which horse is that" so iam not sure if it appeared here yet, if not then: Horse list

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Would have been happy with T3 females.

Wait, why would lower levels on the T2 give a better chance of T3 females if the levels I used only gave T3 males? I thought females of the same tier took more "potential"?

I know it sounds crazy, I thought the same actually. Maybe it has been just been a very strange coincidence but I think not... I tried this myself, netting three T3 females and several other people in the thread have done it as well as a friend of mine in game.

 I'm not trolling, I promise. Do some back reading.

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Doing a Quest last night, ran into my first Wild horse , it was Gray I wasent expecting it, it Ran away....... And Disappeared after a few seconds ....

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T2 -- Lvl 12 male, brown with black mane
T2 -- Lvl 12 female, brown with black mane
(grey)

I just realized, it's listed as grey in the stables, but the actual color is more brownish with black mane. I guess they are the same horse, except skin is a bit different.

 

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These are my favorite too! There are T6-T8s that have this style. These are actually my pics of my horses from KR that I submitted to that site. I can't remember if the pre T7/T8 horses get this look before Mediah update. The one you linked I bought on the horse market, but I did breed this grey one below (T6-F) personally in KR.

2016-02-26_75681829_thumb.jpg

The parents were both T5 level 23's, F= dark blue/orange braid, M= grey "emo" long black hair.  This pairing also gave me a T7 M with the same body shape white body/black hair. This of course was on Korea client so results may vary, I'm hoping I can get these again soon in NA though. I'm considering stopping at T5 and getting my stock up since they said Media was releasing "soon".

 

it's on the lower left of the T6 section. The horse icons are slightly different for the pink looking ones than what the color is in game.

That's a Nice Looking Virtual Horse, I'd have that one if I could.

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