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It technically means same thing, but I didn't know that O.o Well, that's pretty good to know, thanks! :P

There was another bit I forgot to mention.
Cast speed also effects the speed of your channel skills.
IE. Chain Lightning will proc faster.

So much mis information out there it is hard to determine what is correct.  It has been said that Attack speed and cast speed affects depend on class/ability being used.

Cast speed speeds up frames for most of wizards spells while attack speed has less use on wizard.

Would be nice to see tests from wizards specifically but guides from sorcerers have determined that some of their abilities go off of attack speed and some of them go off of cast speed.  So don't think you will be getting benefit from both cast speed and attack speed on one ability.

Nie, Attackspeed speeds up frames. Cast speed speeds up spell speed and, well, cast speed.
Cast speed is literally the "Speed At Which You Cast".
Attack speed is the "Speed at which you attack".

The attack leads into the casting.

For example. When you lead into doing your chain lightning, you wave your staff over your head for a quick moment(depending on your attackspeed).
That, as mentioned, is effected by your attackspeed.

Now your Cast speed, effects how fast each hit in the time you're casting the skill, chain lightning, for example; hits.

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There was another bit I forgot to mention.Cast speed also effects the speed of your channel skills.
IE. Chain Lightning will proc faster.

Nie, Attackspeed speeds up frames. Cast speed speeds up spell speed and, well, cast speed.Cast speed is literally the "Speed At Which You Cast".
Attack speed is the "Speed at which you attack".

The attack leads into the casting.

For example. When you lead into doing your chain lightning, you wave your staff over your head for a quick moment(depending on your attackspeed).
That, as mentioned, is effected by your attackspeed.

Now your Cast speed, effects how fast each hit in the time you're casting the skill, chain lightning, for example; hits.

Thank you with this information i might go ahead and max chain lightning i only had it at one.Thnks alot for the amazing info.Does attack speed affect magic arrow firing rate or other spells beside chain?

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Thank you with this information i might go ahead and max chain lightning i only had it at one.Thnks alot for the amazing info.Does attack speed affect magic arrow firing rate or other spells beside chain?

It should. Since it's triggering an animation, that alone will speed it up. As for RoF, I'm not too sure, I'd need to test it but I believe so. I'll test around sometime this week.

No problem! I'm really glad it helped you.

Be warned though, maxing out Chain Lightning is basically devoid of mana.
That being said, it is 90% of the reason I can kill most other classes. The debuffs apply through block, and because it's channel hit scan, you can hit pesky Sorcs and Archers with it.

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Stacks with the natural debuff for a total of 30% decrease.

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It should. Since it's triggering an animation, that alone will speed it up. As for RoF, I'm not too sure, I'd need to test it but I believe so. I'll test around sometime this week.

No problem! I'm really glad it helped you.

Be warned though, maxing out Chain Lightning is basically devoid of mana.
That being said, it is 90% of the reason I can kill most other classes. The debuffs apply through block, and because it's channel hit scan, you can hit pesky Sorcs and Archers with it.

uAk0IYC.png

My evil skill awake ;)
Stacks with the natural debuff for a total of 30% decrease.

What gear/gems are u using? Do you have max attack speed and cast speed?

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There was another bit I forgot to mention.Cast speed also effects the speed of your channel skills.
IE. Chain Lightning will proc faster.

Nie, Attackspeed speeds up frames. Cast speed speeds up spell speed and, well, cast speed.Cast speed is literally the "Speed At Which You Cast".
Attack speed is the "Speed at which you attack".

The attack leads into the casting.

For example. When you lead into doing your chain lightning, you wave your staff over your head for a quick moment(depending on your attackspeed).
That, as mentioned, is effected by your attackspeed.

Now your Cast speed, effects how fast each hit in the time you're casting the skill, chain lightning, for example; hits.

I understand that is how it sounds and what I initially assumed but many have tested and reported that castspeed actually lowers frames as well.

For example valks get castspeed passive instead of attack speed and they report castspeed is lowering frames for their moves that have no "cast time".

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JnFambQifvui7-V68QMsfuXuhAuu4C0NsVJCxJIv84E/preview?pref=2&pli=1#

Not going to pretend I'm an expert with my own tests just been researching this a lot and every day there is conflicting info I suppose we will never know for sure until there are side by side tests like the ones they did for sorcs.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/3asqoe/sorcerer_list_of_skills_effected_by_cs_as_test/

That thread is saying each skill is affected by one or the other and not both.

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I understand that is how it sounds and what I initially assumed but many have tested and reported that castspeed actually lowers frames as well.

For example valks get castspeed passive instead of attack speed and they report castspeed is lowering frames for their moves that have no "cast time".

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JnFambQifvui7-V68QMsfuXuhAuu4C0NsVJCxJIv84E/preview?pref=2&pli=1#

Not going to pretend I'm an expert with my own tests just been researching this a lot and every day there is conflicting info I suppose we will never know for sure until there are side by side tests like the ones they did for sorcs.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/3asqoe/sorcerer_list_of_skills_effected_by_cs_as_test/

That thread is saying each skill is affected by one or the other and not both.

I'll have to do some indepth research sometime this weekend then.
TY for the info

What gear/gems are u using? Do you have max attack speed and cast speed?

Temptation yuria staff, 4 set agerian and I believe one attackspeed/castspeed(Viper?) crystal. I'll remote into my machine and check in a little.

Sorry- Viper in the gloves, Carnae in the weapon. The rest of my gear has luck crystals, because I farm a lot.

I don't use any dps crystals because.... I actually don't know why I don't but I don't have any slotted outside of viper and Carnae. My boots are slotted with the 25% resist to knockdown and bound(Adamantine, or however you spell that shit)

I still need to fix up my gear a bit. I haven't been too into it because I started working on crafting ultimates.

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