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The comunnity wants Player Trading

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Could Daum please listen to the community and let us trade between players. Many things are simply not worth crafting to put in the marketplace because the market place values are all wrong (i.e: fishing boat, cost more to craft then it sells for) + guildies specialize in certain aspect while some in others, with trading we could trade or sell the marvelous things we craft ingame.

 

This is what the comunity wants and I am certain Daum will listen to us.

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Actually the community seems pretty divided on this.

Personally I don't really care if players can trade or not.

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Agreed

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I don't need player trading.

So your title should read "Some of the community wants player trading" but that doesn't sound as strong, does it?

Not when the vocal minority uses threads titles like : Players dont want player trading.

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Or, crafted materials could cost what the materials cost + a certain bonus on top instead of being subject to supply and demand. Basically we just base it off what the materials cost.

Problem solved? Perhaps.

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Or, crafted materials could cost what the materials cost + a certain bonus on top instead of being subject to supply and demand. Basically we just base it off what the materials cost.

Problem solved? Perhaps.

the time it takes to craft something should also be in the equations, all problems would be fixed if we could sell for whatever amount, market would self regulate and we would have an healthy economy.

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You probably shouldn't presume to speak for the entire community, and you especially probably shouldn't do so while making an argument that fails to consider the ramifications of what you're asking for.

In a perfect world, we'd be free to trade, but we don't live in that world and this approach has both advantages and downsides. Changing it would require a ton of rebalancing and isn't a simple matter.

I enjoy the game as it is and wouldn't vote for player trading.

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I want player trading??

Holy shit, Why did everyone keep this a secret from me?!

 

But nah man it's fine, and the auto AH keeps prices in check.
No need for people to kill it.

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You probably shouldn't presume to speak for the entire community, and you especially probably shouldn't do so while making an argument that fails to consider the ramifications of what you're asking for.

In a perfect world, we'd be free to trade, but we don't live in that world and this approach has both advantages and downsides. Changing it would require a ton of rebalancing and isn't a simple matter.

I enjoy the game as it is and wouldn't vote for player trading.

restrictions of this nature have zero advantages in a *sandbox*

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the time it takes to craft something should also be in the equations, all problems would be fixed if we could sell for whatever ammount, market would self regulate and we would have an healthy economy.

Not necessarily.

The main issue I find with player-run markets is that there's always the top 1% controlling it with an incredibly large barrier to break through. 

I like that the market at this point can't be /heavily/ abused.

We could factor in time spent, etc. but it has to be a price that the buyer doesn't feel pressured into making it himself/herself whilst also being a price that sellers would happily accept for their effort + materials.

Possibly, Materials $ + (Materials $ / 5)?

So, generally, a 20% profit margin for time spent making it?

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No we(I) don't.  Don't speak for the whole community. There's nothing to gain and a lot lose by implementing it.

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Only people who have friends want trading

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Only people who have friends want trading

people with no friends could trade too, simple : open trade window - trade- profit.

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You don't speak for everyone.  I personally like things as they are so no not everyone wants this 

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You don't speak for everyone.  I personally like things as they are so no not everyone wants this 

You are part of the minority, good thing that the majority wants otherwise and we will probably get it. Enjoy not having freedom while it lasts.

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You are part of the minority, good thing that the majority wants otherwise and we will probably get it. Enjoy not having freedom while it lasts.

what majority I only see a few people whining on  forums while everyone else is enjoying the game you don't speak for them stop acting like it.

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You are part of the minority, good thing that the majority wants otherwise and we will probably get it. Enjoy not having freedom while it lasts.

Unlikely. The other regions haven't permitted direct trading. There are only some instances where it happens, and those have restrictions on them.

If you are expecting to see direct trading that resembles any of the other MMO's out there than you are going to be disappointed. It's a design decision that they are determined to remain with.

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Unlikely. The other regions haven't permitted direct trading. There are only some instances where it happens, and those have restrictions on them.

If you are expecting to see direct trading that resembles any of the other MMO's out there than you are going to be disappointed. It's a design decision that they are determined to remain with.

doesnt have to be p2p window trading, could be done by letting us sell at whatever price we want.

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The game isn't designed to have player trading, works perfectly well without it, so is unlikely to ever get it.

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doesnt have to be p2p window trading, could be done by letting us sell at whatever price we want.

That won't happen for the same reason that unrestricted direct trading won't happen.

If we could sell at whatever price we want the goldsellers would simply use that to transfer funds to players. List X item at insanely high price, gold seller buys it, transfer complete.

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No we dont

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Tbh., i'd really love to have trading so i can help my crafting guildies out with mats i don't need and they can help me out with craft mats i do need.

I can understand the reason to not have it because of the market place system or RMT , but it really takes away from the MMO feeling.

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You don't speak for us and you're actually the minority here not the other way around. I like a LOT of others do NOT want trading and being able to sell whatever we want at whatever price we want on market either. Like the others have said it's a design choice by the developers long before it even came to our side of the world. Get over it, you're going to be stuck with it, it ruins your game experience? well I'm sorry but you only have 3 options: deal with it, leave, or do exactly what you're doing now and getting literally nowhere with it.

Have a nice day.

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NO, thank you.

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