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Wizard Gear - PvE / PvP Optimisation (GUIDE)


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Hi Dear Fellows !

 

EDIT on April 4th, 2016 : Including the Grunil Set, Kzarka Weapon & other stuffs !

EDIT on May 8th, 2016 : Including Leveling Skill Tree (From Lv 1 to 50) & Off Hand !

Before reading this guide, remember, I took my personal time to write this guide down, so please make sure to let us some feedbacks so everyone will benefit from our experiences. Thank you.

 

INTRODUCTION

I constantly see questions about Wizard stuff, I know there are some topics for this, but they don't cover properly all the aspects the players want to know about. So I take the lead and count on you guys to bring further informations from your personal experience in this beautiful game. :) I'm not pretending this guide will be perfect but it has been proven effective in the contents cited, and with your help guys, the Wizard class will shine ! So please, don't blame me if I forgot some informations, I'm only half human / half squirrel after all. Finally excuse my eventual mistakes, I'm not an excellent foreign language writter !

After being confronted to PvE / PvP situations i can assure you one thing : There is absolutely no ultimate stuff.

You have to take into consideration if you wanna be more PvE or PvP focused, this will lead you to the stuff needed. Of course you can mix up gears to get a mixed effective setup for both PvE / PvP, but you'll see its limits quickly and get frustrated.. then you'll start eating bananas with your own blood. Nothing pleasant.

The main problem with people is they're looking for a perfect optimisation gear setup PvP / PvE in one set : This will never happen., no matter what combinaison you might do with crystals / jewelries. Ever. Forget about it, and eat mushrooms, please. And yes, donkeys can fly.

 

LEVELING PART - From Lv 1 to 45

• Guide : http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator/wizard/19689# •

This guide will ensure you a great grinding efficiency until you reach your Lv 45 (reset skill). With this guide you will have good mobility (teleport / dodge), high AoE burst damage (chain lightning, thunder storm > residual lightning, fireball > fireball explosion), extremely great regen (mana absorption, healing aura / pharos) & a very good buff skill (speed spell) which you may apply to yourself and/or your teammates.

 

LEVELING PART - From Lv 45 to 50

• Guide : http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator/wizard/19691# •

Things are getting serious now. You will become familiar to the PvP aspect of the game through PvP / PK or even arena if you wanna practice with other players. With this build : you can't fail at being good with your Witch / Wizard. Now is a good time to take 'Sage's Memory" (instant cast for all of you spells), you also have access to more burst, more sustainability & more mobility.

Don't forget, Wizard are based on combos (as simple as it might sound for you) ; You'll be using Lightning Chain to pull mobs & to CC your opponent, but you have to keep in mind using : Fireball Explosion, Lightning Storm & Residual Lightning will be part of 99% of your damages. If you wanna grind with large pack of mobs and use "Meteor Storm" or "Blizzard", make sure to use "Sage's Memory" or "Speed Spell" to increase your cast time, it's really important. 

Your spells are stronger, hence they need more mana to be used. Mana Aborption will work most of the time, unless you're fightning mobs that can block your spells (skeletons, shrine, abandoned monastery..). If you got a mana issue, just CC the mob before using "Mana Absorption" (also a great tip against Warriors & Valkyrie from a PvP perspective).

 

GEARS & STATS

 

_PvP content_ : Casting Speed / Accuracy (and of course, AP, our damage source) are the main stats, no matter what. Why ? Your opponents will always find a way to get close to you (dash, side dodges, skills, horse..) so don't be concerned with the movement stats because you're a RANGED class. You wanna do some quiting ? Teleport / Dodge / CC skills. Movement speed has to be taken into account when you play a Closed Combat Class (to close gap). In PvP you wanna hit fast & you certainly don't wanna miss your target ; to put it in a nutshell : No Accuracy = Forget about doing PvP. Accuracy will also allow you to get full potential attacks from your skills (in the KO version, Accuracy can also work as an Armor Penetration stat, if someone can confirm this information it will be much appreciated!). Finally, you chose to play Wizard, take into consideration you will be permanently focused in PvP since you have the role of Nuker / Healer / Support. Players are not mobs, so act carefully.

/!\ Do not forget to Gear up with resists to Crowd Controls. CCs are the Wiz / Witchs' nightmares in PvP, no matter how skilled you are, you get CC, you die (luckily we can enjoy the broken system of spamming pots every 6 seconds, even though Warriors & Valkyries benefit way more from this). Combined with our Mana Shield : we can get enough resists not to be CCed too often.

GEAR : (Those are my personal setups,tested in PvP, feel free to adapt to your own playstyle!)

• Weapons :

- (alternative choice) Yuria (+5 Human Damage, Accuracy, PA & 1 Socket) ; Blue optimisation "Temptation" : +1 Casting Speed, or "Purple Flame" : +1 Crit Chance. This weapon will give you Accuracy and Human damages, perfect for PvP.

- (main choice) Liverto (+3 Crit Chance, Accuracy & 2 Sockets) . Perfect for both PvP & PvE content, see this as a "Jack of all trades" weapon that will give you huge benefits.

- (main choice BIS) Kzarka (+3 Casting Speed, Accuracy & 2 Sockets). Made this a Bis choice, because wether you have Liverto or Kzarka, you'll have exactly the same amount of AP / Accuracy once +15, so it'll be all up to the choice of gems (casting speed / crit chance)

• Off-Hand :

(main choice) Bronze Dagger : You have good burst, but what's the point if you can't land your skills? Most of your skillset have low accuracy : so it makes perfect sense to boost up your accuracy to be more efficient, knowing that you will encounter opponent stronger / on a higher level than you, hence they'll be having more DP / Evasion. 

- (alternative choice) Steel Dagger : Some Wizards focus on pure burst damage output, knowing they won't land all of their skills. Considering the actual meta, with all being Evasion geared (not even talking about Sorceress with permanent Evasion buff), I do NOT recommend you to take this dagger, UNLESS you have accessories that gives you Accuracy (+10 ~ +12 Accuracy at least, with Accuracy gems on Off Hand, otherwise forget about it.

Armors :

- WITH Liverto / Kzarka Staff -

- Armor Setup n°1 : 3 Taritas (Helmet / Chest / Shoes) + 1 Agerian (Gloves). You get : HP +20, MP +120, Resist Knockdown, Accuracy +5, Casting Speed +1, Atk Speed +1. This is a strong setup when combined with proper gems since we get all the bonuses we need. MP max scales with some of our AoE skill damages (~ 6% damage increase), and both the resist CC & accuracy is more than welcome ! This is more of a well rounded damage focused base.

- Armor Setup n°2 (FULL Grunil) : +150 HP / +7 AP ; Can be extremely heavy, but the 8 sockets & the AP boost is too much not to be taken into account since the Wizard is a Nuker class.

 

- WITHOUT Liverto/ Kzarka Staff -

- Armor Setup n°1 (The HEALER / SUPPORT build) : 2 Heve (Helmet / Shoes) for the gems sockets & HP pool (+250) + 2 Agerian (Gloves / Armor) to benefit from the HP pool (+50 HP max) & CS (+1). This is more of a Support / Heal focused gear though, it will allow you to tank more while supporting your teammates with pretty good CS.

- Armor Setup n°2 (FULL Grunil) : +150 HP / +7 AP ; You lack slots for Gems on your weapon, you're a Nuker class, you need this. Can be heavy though,

- Armor Setup n°3 (not recommended when lv 40- 45+) : 3 Agerian (Helmet / Chest / Gloves) + 1 Talis (if you wanna have movement speed) or Heve if you wanna invest 2 Resist CC gems.

Gems : Those are extremely important since it will give you stats bonuses to reach higher levels on your major stats !

- For Weapons : Go for AP+ & CS+ if you have the Liverto Staff, or CS+ if you have the Yuria one. If you have enough CS levels I suggest you to take Crit Chance +2.

- For Armors : Helmet (+2 CS or Resist CC if you have enough CS) ; Chest (Damage Reduction +5 or HP +100 will be your best bet); Gloves (Crit chance +2 / AP+2 or Resist CC grab +10%) ; Shoes (I recommend Resist CC, but you can still chose +2 Mvt Speed if you really love to move faster)

Jewelries : You wanna look for Accuracy / AP stats !

- Early game : Try to get the full Bares Jewelries, it will give you nice AP boost and it's quite cheap to get, solid start.

- End game : This will become serious. Try to get Earrings of the Witch (earrings), Ogre's Necklace (necklace), Tree Spirit Belt (belt) & Marks of Shadow (rings). I recommend you to invest your points in nodes wisely (higher chances of drops) & opening RNG Necklace boxes, it will be your best bet since the drop rate is extremely low! 

 

_PvE content_ : AP / Critical Chance / Luck. When going for PvE content you wanna hit hard. For those wondering about Casting Speed & Movement Speed : Yes, they can be taken into account if you enjoy running faster from packs to packs and fast spam skills, but they always come after AP & Crit chance in terms of priority (with only 2/3 CS & 1/2 Mvt Speed you can enjoy easily the PvE content, higher ranks is only for you personal comfort and your playstyle). The Luck stat will allow you to have higher chances of drops, excellent for grinding phases!

GEAR : Grinding will be a huge part in your PvE content, but unlike PvP there are many ways to gear yourself up properly to achieve it. 

• Weapons : No real changes, Liverto / Kzarka staff still coming on top, followed by Yuria staff. But honestly, everything will do the job, even if you chose to grind with Bares or Kalis staff, you won't have any problems. But since you will level up quite fast and achieve Lv 45+, you will be confronted to PvP / PK players, so better be prepared and optimise the Yuria / Liverto staff as soon as you can.

• Off-Hand :

Steel Dagger  : You will be using this for the AP boost since you won't miss the mobs with your skills until you are Lv 45. When you reach Lv 45 ~ 48, you will be switching to Bronze Dagger.

• Armors :

- Armor Setup n°1 : 3 Fortuna (Helmet / Chest / Shoes) + 1 Agerian (Gloves) : You will have Luck +2 (drop rate increased, very handy for grinding), +3 Mvt Speed, +1 Casting Speed. With this setup you have 7 Free gems sockets, so feel free to fill your needs with the recommended stats (AP / Crit Chance). This is a very solid setup for grinding only (do NOT be concerned about the "gems breaking" debate, because you won't die against mobs as a Wizard, unless you're doing something wrong).

- Armor Setup n°2 : 3 Agerian (Chest / Gloves / Boots) + 1 Heve (Helmet) : This gives you HP +150, +3 CS, +1 Mvt Speed & 5 Free gems sockets.

- Armor Setup n°3 : 3 Agerian (Helmet / Chest / Gloves) + 1 Talis (Shoes) : This is a variant of the previous one, the only benefit you have from this, is +2 Mvt Speed on shoes but only 4 Sockets to fill with gems. It's all up to you, I leveled up using this setup & changed for the setup n°1 when I was at my  ~35s' levels.

- Armor Setup n°4 : Full Grunil

There are other variants for PvE grinding, so feel free to adapt your setup according to your preferences & playstyle. No matter what gear setup you chose, PvE is still fairly simple until you get lv ~40+ when you get those ranged attack mobs & rush, that's mostly when you'll have to master your CC / Teleport skills + dodges.

Jewelries : Same ones as previously. Focus on AP to boost your damages to grind faster!

/!\ NOTE : When reaching lv 45+, you will need accuracy on your accessories !! You will grind mobs on higher lv than you, you will need accuracy to land your skills.

 

FEEDBACKS

 

I took some time to write this guide for anyone in need, who might feels lost and confused with all those variant stuffs, but I count on all of you for this topic to become our "Wizard Bible" and will be updated when needed.

 

 

Thanks for reading, enjoy !

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Great guide, it helped me out alot, also put me at ease because i happen to roll with two piece heve(head boots) and two agerian. i noticed that im alot slower than other wizards tho. Im at 4 attack speed and 2 cast speed, maybe thats my problem? i also havent spec'ed into the cast time passives, are they worth it?

 

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@Broccoli : Glad it helped you. Yes I think so, Wizards don't benefit from Attack Speed actually (since it will only allow you to hit faster with your staff & have faster magical arrows).

Concerning the passive Casting Speed (+12% if maxed), I think it's a great passive to invest into, however, it depends if you wanna go on a Damage Wizard or Support / Healer. If you go Support / Healer, don't invest points into this unless you're high level enough. This will benefit much more from your AoE skills because of the long cast time, so it's up to you !

if you wanna go Crazy Grind & increase your drop rate while maintaining good Mvt Speed & AP, I suggest you to go : 3 Fortuna (Helmet / Chest / Shoes) + 1 Agerian (Gloves).

For gems I recommend : 

- Chest : 2 x +1 Luck

- Shoes : (Hystreia gem x2) this will give you +2 Mvt Speed & +40weight max 

- Gloves : +1 Casting Speed / +1 Atk Speed

- Helmet : 2 x +2 Casting Speed (you can go 2 x +1 Casting Speed if it's too expensive for you)

- Weapon : (Agony Gem) +2 Crit Chance -1 Atk Speed

You'll have 5 Casting Speed (if you got the right gems on Helmet) / 5 Luck (4 if you don't have the Panty from cash shop) / 5 Crit Chance (with Liverto, 2 Crit Chance without it, but it's no big deal, you can compensate it with Crit Chance on other parts if needed + Food buffs) / 5 Mvt Speed.

This will allow you to grind better than any possible combinaison I've discovered so far :).

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Great guide, it helped me out alot, also put me at ease because i happen to roll with two piece heve(head boots) and two agerian. i noticed that im alot slower than other wizards tho. Im at 4 attack speed and 2 cast speed, maybe thats my problem? i also havent spec'ed into the cast time passives, are they worth it?

 

@Wild_Instinct   : nice info all packed . Hope you are going to expand it to skills etc. 

@Broccoli : you can even lower the attack speed since it only effects LMB and go for +2 crit - 1 att speed. Also get helm crystals like +2 casting speed ( ~ 300k each ).

@Broccoli : Glad it helped you. Yes I think so, Wizards don't benefit from Attack Speed actually (since it will only allow you to hit faster with your staff & have faster magical arrows), if you wanna go Crazy Grind & increase your drop rate while maintaining good Mvt Speed & AP, I suggest you to go : 3 Fortuna (Helmet / Chest / Shoes) + 1 Agerian (Gloves).

For gems I recommend : 

- Chest : 2 x +1 Luck

- Shoes : (Hystreia gem x2) this will give you +2 Mvt Speed & +40weight max 

- Gloves : +1 Casting Speed / +1 Atk Speed

- Helmet : 2 x +2 Casting Speed (you can go 2 x +1 Casting Speed if it's too expensive for you)

- Weapon : (Agony Gem) +2 Crit Chance -1 Atk Speed

You'll have 5 Casting Speed (if you got the right gems on Helmet) / 5 Luck (4 if you don't have the Panty from cash shop) / 5 Crit Chance (with Liverto, 2 Crit Chance without it, but it's no big deal, you can compensate it with Crit Chance on other parts if needed + Food buffs) / 5 Mvt Speed.

This will allow you to grind better than any possible combinaison I've discovered so far :).

At 50 titles with fortuna without underwear you can get a +1 luck and be done with. No need to go 2x +1 luck at chest and opt for +35mp x2 . Just a heads up :P

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At 50 titles with fortuna without underwear you can get a +1 luck and be done with. No need to go 2x +1 luck at chest and opt for +35mp x2 . Just a heads up :P

Absolutely, you're right :) But At his current level he can't benefit from this Title Luck +1, that's why I suggested to invest into 2 Luck +1 instead of one ^^

I'll complete this build with Stat Levels, so that people looking for one stat in particular will go for the build directly. 

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Thanks alot for the help i will work on getting those gems. =)

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Great guide! Really helped clarify tiny questions I had.

Just another one though, I currently run 2 heve/2 agerian for the HP benefit - currently at 925 hp on my lv 31 Witch which is great for taking a few hits from mobs. Is the MP bonus a great deal of difference damage wise? Thus necessitating 3 taritas/1 agerian? Or is the difference small enough that using a HP boosting set won't affect your overall damage too much?

Because I want to be primarily damage focused, but I also want to be able to pull large groups of mobs and not be wiped by bosses in one hit. :l

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Yes it plays a small role. Many skills benefit from max mp thus making the +mp crystals a nice boost at some lower lvls. You can also try that but i think the overall dmg bonus isnt that big off a deal. 

Better keep helm/armor heve and others agerian. 

Hp is better! My 2 cents :P

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Thanks alot for the help i will work on getting those gems. =)

No problem buddy, get those gems & come back to tell us if the results really fit your needs ;)

 

Great guide! Really helped clarify tiny questions I had.

Just another one though, I currently run 2 heve/2 agerian for the HP benefit - currently at 925 hp on my lv 31 Witch which is great for taking a few hits from mobs. Is the MP bonus a great deal of difference damage wise? Thus necessitating 3 taritas/1 agerian? Or is the difference small enough that using a HP boosting set won't affect your overall damage too much?

Because I want to be primarily damage focused, but I also want to be able to pull large groups of mobs and not be wiped by bosses in one hit. :l

Glad this helped you out !

Before answering to you, I wanna clarify one thing : From a PvE point of view, having HP max+ is a waste for the Wizard class, because you're a ranged class & you're not supposed to take hit from mobs (that's why the Wizard skills has been developped to give us CC / Teleport skills, to avoid being hit). From a PvP perspective, having HP max+ is needed because no matter how good you are in PvP you wanna have a large HP pool to absorb burst damages from your enemies (through fast skills animations & auto attacks, I'm currently thinking about those Rangers, our biggest weakness IMO, even with good kiting / dodges), so take those elements into account.

The bonus damage from the MP max scaling (from Taritas) with your AoE skills will give you a +4 ~ 6% damage increase, this will lead you to the win / lose when your enemy is low HP (instead of leaving him with 50HP, he'll be dead). Plus, you can cast more skills since your MP pool is higher, so it's definitely a good way to go. The developers didn't put this damage bonus for nothing, it's totally worth it, coupled with a 5 Casting Speed, you'll tear out your enemies a little bit easier. :)

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Glad this helped you out !

Before answering to you, I wanna clarify one thing : From a PvE point of view, having HP max+ is a waste for the Wizard class, because you're a ranged class & you're not supposed to take hit from mobs (that's why the Wizard skills has been developped to give us CC / Teleport skills, to avoid being hit). From a PvP perspective, having HP max+ is needed because no matter how good you are in PvP you wanna have a large HP pool to absorb burst damages from your enemies (through fast skills animations & auto attacks), so take those elements into account.

The bonus damage from the MP max scaling (from Taritas) with your AoE skills will give you a +4 ~ 6% damage increase, this will lead you to the win / lose when your enemy is low HP (instead of leaving him with 50HP, he'll be dead). Plus, you can cast more skills since your MP pool is higher, so it's definitely a good way to go. The developers didn't put this damage bonus for nothing, it's totally worth it, coupled with a 5 Casting Speed, you'll tear out your enemies a little bit easier. :)

Thank you! I'll make the switch to Taritas now :) or heck, even enchant two sets so I can alternate between survival and damage ;p

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MP damage proportionally reduced in PvP, it says that on all the skills that increase damage with max MP.

So this means that the damage scaling from MP does not apply in PvP?

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MP damage proportionally reduced in PvP, it says that on all the skills that increase damage with max MP.

So this means that the damage scaling from MP does not apply in PvP?

It applies but the effect is not as pronounced, capped at 2% for pvp IIRC.

- Armor Setup n°2 (good alternative if you don't have Liverto staff) : 2 Heve (Helmet / Shoes) for the gems sockets & HP pool (+250) + 2 Agerian (Gloves / Armor) to benefit from the HP pool (+50 HP max) & CS (+1). This is more of a Support / Heal focused gear though, it will allow you to tank more while supporting your teammates with pretty good CS.

I use that EXACT same setup, surprised someone would notice something like that on a less-robust class. Can vouch for this!

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I have full Agerian set, thats Its good for pvp ? Because i follow another guide and they recomend Agerian set. Now I'm confuse...

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I am always in a party with a friend who is a warrior. I went for a support / healer secondary dps build. Meaning I took most of the support skills and maxed the heal spells and also have the staple damage skills. I use Yuria with critical and 3x Talis (helm chest and boots) with agerian gloves.  I currently have from gems: 5 CS,  3 crit,  5 movement speed, 4 luck {2 from titles, 1 from gem in dagger, 1 from lingerie). It works for me anyway cause I love moving fast and kiting mobs if needed to. Also really helps to chase fleeing players. I may not be using a "recommended" or "preferred" gear set up but I have not found it to be any sort of problem. In fact the opposite. Since I can kite I don't take much damage, pvp players don't expect witches to chase them down thus making it so my warrior friend and I can flank and kill. 

TL,DR:. My pvp & pve: Yuria + crit & 3x Talis (helm chest and boots) agerian gloves. Stats w/ gems: 5 CS,  3 crit,  5 movement, 4 luck (2 from titles, 1 from gem in dagger, 1 from lingerie). 

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Tbh, I run all luck crystals and still poop on people. Wonder what it'd be like if I ran offence/defense crystals instead.

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Great guide, really helpful.  Thank you.

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I have full Agerian set, thats Its good for pvp ? Because i follow another guide and they recomend Agerian set. Now I'm confuse...

Full Agerian set might be good in PvP indeed, it's all up to you, I tried it & went for 3 Taritas / 1 Agerian, more benefits IMO. People looking for Max Hp scaling on Wizard class didn't understand the game as far as PvP is concerned ^^ Having HP+ is good to absorb the burst damages as I said, but with broken spamming pots every 6s & your heal, you don't need that much HP. 

Tbh, I run all luck crystals and still poop on people. Wonder what it'd be like if I ran offence/defense crystals instead.

You would do much better, I can assure you that :) Try it & come tell us !

Great guide, really helpful.  Thank you.

You're welcome. Glad I helped some fellows :)

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How about when Grunil comes out in a few days? Will you edit this post to include Grunil setups?

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How about when Grunil comes out in a few days? Will you edit this post to include Grunil setups?

Yes I will, I will also edit the topic giving you how much stats levels you can achieve by equiping the gear I talked about.

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We'll be switching to Grunil, that much is obvious, but what about weapons? Does the new patch have something that will easily replace Yuria, or is it all drops from bosses like Liverto? Basically is it a good idea to still push for +15 Yuria?

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We'll be switching to Grunil, that much is obvious, but what about weapons? Does the new patch have something that will easily replace Yuria, or is it all drops from bosses like Liverto? Basically is it a good idea to still push for +15 Yuria?

Define we.
Grun is heavy, and slow.
Some of us don't want to be standing targets for slaughter.

Age > Grun for wizard if you're not interested in being a turret.

You will hit hard as ----- with grun, but what's the point if you're the primary target for sorc, and soon, ninja.

This is based on experience with a few builds.

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Define we.Grun is heavy, and slow.
Some of us don't want to be standing targets for slaughter.

Age > Grun for wizard if you're not interested in being a turret.

You will hit hard as ----- with grun, but what's the point if you're the primary target for sorc, and soon, ninja.

This is based on experience with a few builds.

Okay, sorry, some won't be switching. What about weapon?

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Okay, sorry, some won't be switching. What about weapon?

Ultimate Rosar Staff
Ultimate Krea Staff
I, personally will lay in wait.

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@War I've read your posts about not going mainstream and getting Grunil. I'm interested in what you're going for as in gear. Would like to test it out and see for myself if it's something I'd like. Not sure if you're willing to pm me?

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EDIT on March 31, 2016 : Appearently the brand new Grunil Set doesn't give you AP boosts, so I didn't edit the post.

Thanks for reading, enjoy !

I'm pretty sure this is a bug and will be hotfixed as the gear does list there being a +7 AP bonus.

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