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Disappointment in BDO's armor selection. Everyone looks the same.


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idk I am never going to spend any money on dye sorry, is just something I read more than once

good to know it is not true tho

Sry i didnt want to be rude tough , just wanted to point out the info well that being said if they are not permanent they last for a realy realy long time lol and like someone said before if u already paid a monthly $$ mmo you should think about investing just a small 50 $ in the cash shop get a costume and some dye its really not that much you can also just buy some dye for 10$ you can have 12 box i just bought 12 that gave me 36 dye and im probably gonna use them all since they are so many option for color in that game.

 

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Yeah and they never intended for scope of the game to be where it's at now. They have been focusing on other things trust me.

I don't understand why they decided to focus on making completely new costumes from scratch instead of implementing the finished armor models from BETA then. They were even put into the game, fully functional. How come they made Fish, Maid, Santa, Karlstein, Gotha Rensa etc but didn't have time/staff to put finished armors back into the game? o:

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Lol you guys ^^

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Sry i didnt want to be rude tough , just wanted to point out the info well that being said if they are not permanent they last for a realy realy long time lol and like someone said before if u already paid a monthly $$ mmo you should think about investing just a small 50 $ in the cash shop get a costume and some dye its really not that much you can also just buy some dye for 10$ you can have 12 box i just bought 12 that gave me 36 dye and im probably gonna use them all since they are so many option for color in that game.

 

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$50 is small? o-o That's 190zł. Sheesh, monthly subscriptions are about 1/4 of that...

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Quite sad they chose greed over making something worthwhile for the players.

Game will crash and burn in the long run. Archeage 2.0.

I'll never buy anything from their overpriced cash shop.

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I don't understand why they decided to focus on making completely new costumes from scratch instead of implementing the finished armor models from BETA then. They were even put into the game, fully functional. How come they made Fish, Maid, Santa, Karlstein, Gotha Rensa etc but didn't have time/staff to put finished armors back into the game? o:

True, but like I said, a change in scope and business model will make current older redundant so they move on and focus on newer plans and project ideas. I'm no dev but I've definitely seen this happen in other games. Look at Star Citizen; the change of scope for that game has turned it into a living breathing nightmare full of broken deadlines and missing modules. It's crazy I tellz ya! ;)  

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True, but like I said, a change in scope and business model will make current older redundant so they move on and focus on newer plans and project ideas. I'm no dev but I've definitely seen this happen in other games. Look at Star Citizen; the change of scope for that game has turned it into a living breathing nightmare full of broken deadlines and missing modules. It's crazy I tellz ya! ;)  

It doesn't make me feel any better about PA's choices. xD

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 50$ once... so compare to a monthly fee its fairly cheap...

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Blade and Soul has better costumes :)

Every MMO does than this shit.

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It doesn't make me feel any better about PA's choices. xD

Yeah I know.

They do have a larger scope which will hopefully mean a ton more money is being pushed into development.

Lest give them a bit more time to iron out these massive launches and settle so they can focus on creating item that they can gouge us with. 

:D

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Quite sad they chose greed over making something worthwhile for the players.

Game will crash and burn in the long run. Archeage 2.0.

I'll never buy anything from their overpriced cash shop.

Overprice...well maybe for a 16-17 teenager  that dont have a full time job but for me to be honnest the price are ok...
And there is just no reason to compare it to AA caus there is no P2W feature in BDO except maybe the ghillie suit for some people lol and imo this isnt a p2w aspect...

Raagnaar. 

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Overprice...well maybe for a 16-17 teenager  that dont have a full time job but for me to be honnest the price are ok...And there is just no reason to compare it to AA caus there is no P2W feature in BDO except maybe the ghillie suit for some people lol and imo this isnt a p2w aspect...

Raagnaar. 

You're from NA, yeah? People in Europe earn on average 3 times less than a person from US doing the same job.

The prices are outragous, x2-x2.5 higher than any other major MMO out there.

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You're from NA, yeah? People in Europe earn on average 3 times less than a person from US doing the same job.

The prices are outragous, x2-x2.5 higher than any other major MMO out there.

Yes i am, Sry maybe it need to be changed for your side of the planet im not saying the opposite guys maybe we earn more here i really dont know alot about EU salary so it need to be submit to Daum and maybe they will change their price...Your not the first from EU that i hear complaining about price mate :/ really sry about that...

Raagnaar.

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Yeah I know.

They do have a larger scope which will hopefully mean a ton more money is being pushed into development.

Lest give them a bit more time to iron out these massive launches and settle so they can focus on creating item that they can gouge us with. 

:D

How much more time? They had 3 -----ing years. You're telling me in 3 years, they completely failed to read the western market? Daum EU hasn't done anything special. They took a game, localized it and put it in NA and EU. Cool. People were able to translate the KR version more than a year ago to other languages. I played Black Desert KR and the translations aren't anything special in the NA/EU version we have now. So all Daum EU has done with the MILLIONS of dollars they made from preorders is basically sit on their asses. 

They can't plan events right.

They can't get compensation to their PAYING customers.

They can't fix the gold seller problem without shafting players.

They can't respond to tickets.

They barely upkeep the servers, and because of that they need to have 10 hour maints every week. Shit, games these days can do that without shutting down the game.

So tell me, WHAT IS DAUM EU ACTUALLY DOING?

They're just a greedy corporation who are profiting off the whales and fanboys.

Here's the sad truth.

Once the whales stop giving them a -----load of money. BDO WILL go free to play. The cash shop prices WILL rise. And all of you paying whales will become crying -----es like the rest of us too.

Daum, go look at how Digital Extremes handles Warframe, maybe you will learn something.

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Yea the prizes are high, but for me at least afordable

the only problem is the variety

there are 3 options atm

looking like a potato sack

looking like a bush

looking like a fish

this is really frustrating, since i want my char to look awesom, its really important for my gameplay experience

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Overprice...well maybe for a 16-17 teenager  that dont have a full time job but for me to be honnest the price are ok...And there is just no reason to compare it to AA caus there is no P2W feature in BDO except maybe the ghillie suit for some people lol and imo this isnt a p2w aspect...

Raagnaar. 

I have a full time job. I'd rather spend my money on idk paying my loans, paying for my house, paying my bills, buying clothes, buying food, providing for my family. Many of us aren't "16-17 year old teenagers" . Some of us are just smart with our money. 

But hey I can't be mad at you for spending money in the cash shop. After all, people like you keep the game running for people like me.

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Yea the prizes are high, but for me at least afordable

the only problem is the variety

there are 3 options atm

looking like a potato sack

looking like a bush

looking like a fish

this is really frustrating, since i want my char to look awesom, its really important for my gameplay experience

You forgot about "Looking like a prostitute/DC hero" one

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I have a full time job. I'd rather spend my money on idk paying my loans, paying for my house, paying my bills, buying clothes, buying food, providing for my family. Many of us aren't "16-17 year old teenagers" . Some of us are just smart with our money. 

Thank you lol

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How much more time? They had 3 -----ing years. You're telling me in 3 years, they completely failed to read the western market? Daum EU hasn't done anything special. They took a game, localized it and put it in NA and EU. Cool. People were able to translate the KR version more than a year ago to other languages. I played Black Desert KR and the translations aren't anything special in the NA/EU version we have now. So all Daum EU has done with the MILLIONS of dollars they made from preorders is basically sit on their asses. 

They can't plan events right.

They can't get compensation to their PAYING customers.

They can't fix the gold seller problem without shafting players.

They can't respond to tickets.

They barely upkeep the servers, and because of that they need to have 10 hour maints every week. Shit, games these days can do that without shutting down the game.

So tell me, WHAT IS DAUM EU ACTUALLY DOING?

They're just a greedy corporation who are profiting off the whales and fanboys.

Here's the sad truth.

Once the whales stop giving them a -----load of money. BDO WILL go free to play. The cash shop prices WILL rise. And all of you paying whales will become crying -----es like the rest of us too.

Daum, go look at how Digital Extremes handles Warframe, maybe you will learn something.

 

Your asking the wrong person, i don't work for Daum so I couldn't possibly know what happened, I just gave an opinion and an example that this shit DOES happen, nothing more, nothing less. Your concerns and expectations are not my own so don't act as if they are. 

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I have a full time job. I'd rather spend my money on idk paying my loans, paying for my house, paying my bills, buying clothes, buying food, providing for my family. Many of us aren't "16-17 year old teenagers" . Some of us are just smart with our money. 

But hey I can't be mad at you for spending money in the cash shop. After all, people like you keep the game running for people like me.

I liked your comment btw and if i keep the game running with my $$ well im happy about it there is no other game like this at the moment imo.
The thing is i'm paying for all of these too " sssshhh " but im still able to support a game that i like trowing couple $$ into the Cashshop but hey we all have our own thing you know me i like gaming but i also work really hard for my money so sometime i like to spend it on something that i enjoy. But im still paying all my bills...
Anyway the main subject of this threads wasnt if your an adult or a teen or if your having bills to pay or living in a mobile home...

to be honnest i rarely meet someone in game that look like me or like each other it may look like this when your starting tough. From Olvia to Velia everyone look pretty much the same imo.So far i think i throw about 125 CAD into the game and i dont feel like i need to put more at the moment i have everything that i want and i look awesome ;)

 


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you can always dye your gear...

Let's not get started on the shitty dye system. Might as well buy an outfit instead of going into the dye casino.

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I liked your comment btw and if i keep the game running with my $$ well im happy about it there is no other game like this at the moment imo.The thing is i'm paying for all of these too " sssshhh " but im still able to support a game that i like trowing couple $$ into the Cashshop but hey we all have our own thing you know me i like gaming but i also work really hard for my money so sometime i like to spend it on something that i enjoy. But im still paying all my bills...
Anyway the main subject of this threads wasnt if your an adult or a teen or if your having bills to pay or living in a mobile home...

to be honnest i rarely meet someone in game that look like me or like each other it may look like this when your starting tough. From Olvia to Velia everyone look pretty much the same imo.So far i think i throw about 124 CAD into the game and i dont feel like i need to put more at the moment i have everything that i want and i look awesome ;)

 


Raagnaar.

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Nice char btw.

And while the thread isn't about a persons income. It really does boil down to if they have expendable income to spend on this game. The point I guess I want to make is that. 

When they first announced the cash shop prices, and there was a huge backlash about said prices, They should've immediately slashed them. If the price of a costume set was like 20 dollars, I'd be happy to buy a couple. I'm sure a lot more people would buy a costume too if it was like 20 dollars. That's not even a 50% price cut.

Considering we are all wearing potato sacks forever, I'm pretty sure many people are itchin to get a costume but are on the fence about it.

Their business model, if simplified to costumes is this:

30 dollars * 5 people buying = 150 dollars

When it should've been:

20 dollars * 10 people buying = 200 dollars

Sensible, cheaper prices should've been the way to go if they wanted to keep the buy 2 play model for long-term as it theoretically earns more revenue. 

Not to mention, slashing prices would've earned players trust + a lot of us would've felt as if they're actually listening to the community.

 

 

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Nice char btw.

And while the thread isn't about a persons income. It really does boil down to if they have expendable income to spend on this game. The point I guess I want to make is that. 

When they first announced the cash shop prices, and there was a huge backlash about said prices, They should've immediately slashed them. If the price of a costume set was like 20 dollars, I'd be happy to buy a couple. I'm sure a lot more people would buy a costume too if it was like 20 dollars. That's not even a 50% price cut.

Considering we are all wearing potato sacks forever, I'm pretty sure many people are itchin to get a costume but are on the fence about it.

Their business model, if simplified to costumes is this:

30 dollars * 5 people buying = 150 dollars

When it should've been:

20 dollars * 10 people buying = 200 dollars

Sensible, cheaper prices should've been the way to go if they wanted to keep the buy 2 play model for long-term as it theoretically earns more revenue. 

Not to mention, slashing prices would've earned players trust + a lot of us would've felt as if they're actually listening to the community.

 

 

Hey Thanks :D 

And yes i totaly agree with you on that , but lots of compagny releasing game lately seems to have a lack in business knowledge i think they have a "C" maybe they should reset it and try to get a "S+" lol but yea i get your point and you are right that if they would lower the price just a little they would probably get even more out of the C$...
TBH im sure at 99% that the price will change and i think it will change soon but who know they might still have their head in their ass in a year still.

And im gonna buy stuff even if i shouldnt caus im just like this but yea i would own a lot more C$ item if it was cheaper but the game just release and i dtill have some faith with this one lol.

Cheers 

Raagnaar.

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Hey Thanks :D 

And yes i totaly agree with you on that , but lots of compagny releasing game lately seems to have a lack in business knowledge i think they have a "C" maybe they should reset it and try to get a "S+" lol but yea i get your point and you are right that if they would lower the price just a little they would probably get even more out of the C$...
TBH im sure at 99% that the price will change and i think it will change soon but who know they might still have their head in their ass in a year still.

And im gonna buy stuff even if i shouldnt caus im just like this but yea i would own a lot more C$ item if it was cheaper but the game just release and i dtill have some faith with this one lol.

Cheers 

Raagnaar.

Honestly id be a happy camper at around 20 bucks maybe even toss some in more in game armor designs. Or some of the costumes that dont sell well pop them in the other shop ya know? but 30 hell i bought dragons dogma for that and been playing it lol

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Honestly id be a happy camper at around 20 bucks maybe even toss some in more in game close in. Or some of the costumes that dont sell well pop them in the other shop ya know? but 30 hell i bought dragons dogma for that and been playing it lol

hahaha true and thats an awesome game :D

Raagnaar.

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