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Market overflow with bots

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Basically 5 of us guildies sniping a Liverto wep on market after it was placed by our guildie at 6am. Doing the Purchase click + numbers under a second and all 5 of us failing to buy it. It's more than obvious it's botting, people have talked about it, it's a known issue. Why can't it be handled?

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It's more than obvious that you have no idea how AH and it's bidding phase works.

Didn't it look suspicious to you, that after you fail, the item is still on AH, yet "Purchase" button is greyed out for you?

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People calling it an auction house but there are really no auctions... 

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Fact is there are ah Bots that buy instantly , a casual player or any Player has no chance to get something if a botter targeted on that Item, it is just crazy and something should be done about it.

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Fact is there are ah Bots that buy instantly , a casual player or any Player has no chance to get something if a botter targeted on that Item, it is just crazy and something should be done about it.

Another one who doesn't know how Bidding phase works. Yes you can bot the normal items, but there's enough of these available... except the fresh new items.

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It's more than obvious that you have no idea how AH and it's bidding phase works.

Didn't it look suspicious to you, that after you fail, the item is still on AH, yet "Purchase" button is greyed out for you?

I swear on my life, the option was greyed out the entire time til it disappeared. For one of us it appeared white and as soon as he typed in the numbers it was said that item was already purchased. If there is actual a "bidding" phase, it didn't happen for 5 of us. And you can't possibly be that ignorant and tell me that 5 of us were too slow to react.

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I'm sorry, HOW is it an Auction house?  no body competes over the item; at least not that I've seen.   Where is it that people "bid" on items?

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Bidding happens for any item that is desired, usually 1m+ in price, when it gets queued to AH, AH sends notifications to everyone who has them set.

That means in 15-30mins the item will appear on AH. When it does though, it will have purple triangle with "B" in top left corner of it's icon on AH - that means there's Bidding phase.

The phase lasts several seconds (never saw shorter than 20s or longer than 1m:30s). In this phase, the server rolls a certain random number.

Now you have 2 options, click Purchase, type the captcha and Enter - server will roll number for you and if it's same as the above one, you instantly win the item. If it's not, you are told "Failed to Purchase" and the Purchase button is now greyed out for you until the B phase is over. This means everyone has at least 1 chance at buying the item.

After the bidding phase ends and if nobody got lucky number and won, it's open for normal purchase and the fastest (or bot) guy wins.

@Zbile: what message did you get? "Item already sold." or "Failed to purchase."?

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Bidding happens for any item that is desired, usually 1m+ in price, when it gets queued to AH, AH sends notifications to everyone who has them set.

That means in 15-30mins the item will appear on AH. When it does though, it will have purple triangle with "B" in top left corner of it's icon on AH - that means there's Bidding phase.

The phase lasts several seconds (never saw shorter than 20s or longer than 1m:30s). In this phase, the server rolls a certain random number.

Now you have 2 options, click Purchase, type the captcha and Enter - server will roll number for you and if it's same as the above one, you instantly win the item. If it's not, you are told "Failed to Purchase" and the Purchase button is now greyed out for you until the B phase is over. This means everyone has at least 1 chance at buying the item.

After the bidding phase ends and if nobody got lucky number and won, it's open for normal purchase and the fastest (or bot) guy wins.

@Zbile: what message did you get? "Item already sold." or "Failed to purchase."?

Wow.....uhm..... I'm speechless as to the system......

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I got Failed to purchase. Although it kinda makes sense now that you explained it. Just the word "bidding" is absolutely awful for this situation really :D

 

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I got Failed to purchase. Although it kinda makes sense now that you explained it. Just the word "bidding" is absolutely awful for this situation really :D

 

I was thinking about it more and came to conclusion that this is actually quite valid way to give everyone a chance (albeit lotto) so the bots don't always instasnipe it. You can see it with Shining Powder now, which is not going to "B" and vanishes very quickly.

No captcha whatsoever is going to stop a bot (I can imagine simple script is watching for moment the "B" is gone and hits the button), but like this at least someone else can win.

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would fix the issue, i still have a hard time understanding why this isnt a thing from the design of the system -.- it just seems crazy

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Another one who doesn't know how Bidding phase works. Yes you can bot the normal items, but there's enough of these available... except the fresh new items.

i am talking about these normal items, for some dailys you need goods and i as a lazy person buy them of the AH like "Kantholz" (don`t know the english item name) and whenever a botter dicides to stock them up there is a time window these are insta sniped while half a day or day later when the botter has enough, it will be still difficult ( market was empty and now a lot of people waiting for it try to buy it before you ) but possible and some hours later the market stabilize and it is back to normal.

On reddit there is even a post of someone who made a script and still got sniped. So yeah there a Ah bots and this is crazy and somethingshould be done against it.^^

i did know that a bidding pahse exists ( however i didn´t know the details, so thanks for that) but if i am in the ah , get the notification , type the name and is already sold.

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these bots give a shit on that so called "bidding system". they can read/edit in and outgoing packages and roll several times in the 1st phase while you have only 1 entry. even if they miss with 20+ rolls its anyway gone instant in 2nd phase before you pressed purchase.

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Bidding happens for any item that is desired, usually 1m+ in price, when it gets queued to AH, AH sends notifications to everyone who has them set.

That means in 15-30mins the item will appear on AH. When it does though, it will have purple triangle with "B" in top left corner of it's icon on AH - that means there's Bidding phase.

The phase lasts several seconds (never saw shorter than 20s or longer than 1m:30s). In this phase, the server rolls a certain random number.

Now you have 2 options, click Purchase, type the captcha and Enter - server will roll number for you and if it's same as the above one, you instantly win the item. If it's not, you are told "Failed to Purchase" and the Purchase button is now greyed out for you until the B phase is over. This means everyone has at least 1 chance at buying the item.

After the bidding phase ends and if nobody got lucky number and won, it's open for normal purchase and the fastest (or bot) guy wins.

@Zbile: what message did you get? "Item already sold." or "Failed to purchase."?

I would love this system on horse AH as well, since all good horses, goes to quick. Yes you can only buy one horse per hour. But a bot lvl horse while waiting to snipe nxt horse.

Or simply that I can sell my horse to my guildmates.

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