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Blader gear GUIDE


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Please link the source, there has been so many testing as it has almost no difference at all at 20+ enchant, only around 2-3+ accuracy at the end which means around 3% only, that's at 20+ enchant. 

Ah, I guess i read a faulty source. Investigating it further from a lot of different sources, i found the difference was found to be negligible :o

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Something tells me we won't get it this wednesday, just because we are all so hyped for it.

;__;

Can confirm, been hyped for every downtime so far, only to be letdown every downtime. but... but this time will be different right? please ,_,

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Can confirm, been hyped for every downtime so far, only to be letdown every downtime. but... but this time will be different right? please ,_,

I'll even consider sacrificing a goat and someones firstborn to satan if we'd get it on wednesday. :/

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If it's not this wednesday, i'm gonna give up and make a witch or something. Been sitting on all this gear and blackstones for too long!

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If it's not this wednesday, i'm gonna give up and make a witch or something. Been sitting on all this gear and blackstones for too long!

You're telling me. At about 3,000 Amity to purchase up a bunch of Yuria's and closing in on weapon 100 blackstones and 80Hunter Seals

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I'll even consider sacrificing a goat and someones firstborn to satan if we'd get it on wednesday. :/

Who would have thought we'd have to pray for RNGesus to get our classes to drop :3

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Who would have thought we'd have to pray for RNGesus to get our classes to drop :3

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Well considering everything else in this game seems to be rng...... =THE SAD TRUTH==Waits for the day levels become rng=  

Hey, I have distributed some charts for Blader gear. However, there were some faults in these and they have been corrected. Therefore, I thought I should upload a up-to-date chart for Blader gear that is in my opionion, the best gear you can have. 

 

Now I have made a FAQ because I have frequently been getting some of the same questions.

FAQ

  • Why not use Agerian armor

      - Agerian is simply bad. The health is not really needed and can be gotten from other armor pieces that doesn't have mediocre stats. The attack speed is easily gotten with Liverto or crystals. There is simply NO REASON to go Agerian as a Blader. You will lack WP and crystal slots, making you more vulnerable to knockdowns and less mobile, which is where Blader thrives. 

  • Why not user 3 Taritas?

      - If you use 3 Taritas you will get 7 more accuracy, but you will miss out on 5 AP, 1 crystal slot. And you will get a last piece that only gets its item effect. First of all, you get ALOT of Accuracy from Liverto/Kzarka and Black Horn Bow (41 Accuracy), and the 7 more accuracy isn't really needed. + if you go with Taritas Gloves you will miss out on the a crystal slot that prevents you from maxing either Attack Speed or Critical Hit. All in all, 3 Taritas is alot worse than the 2 Taritas + 2 Grunil combo. 

  • Why not use full Grunil?

      - Simple question and simple answer, WP. We need the WP, partly for our mobility and partly because some of our abilities does damage depending on our max WP. 

  • Why not use White Bow for more AP?

      - Because from Black Horn Bow you get 29(!) Accuracy. That is REALLY MUCH and extremly hard to obtain without using Black Horn Bow. 

  • Why is Accuracy needed?

      - Simply put, the more DP your opponent has, the less likely you are to hit them. Thus, against better geared people, you will need more accuracy.             Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4cb2hk/accuracy_explained_tests_results_and/ 

  • What is best Mesto- or Witch's Earring?

      - As stated before, the better geared your opponent is, the less likely you are to hit them. Therefore, Witch's Earring is better against low geared people, and Mesto will be better     against people with alot of DP, such as good geared Warriors. 

  • What is best Kzarka or Liverto?

      - They are nearly identical, aside from the fact that Liverto gives Critical Hit and Kzarka provides with Attack Speed. Since Blader wants to max out both of these it doesn't matter which of them you get. Just be sure to get the complementary crystals for your gloves. Example: I go Liverto for Critical Hit, then I need Attack Speed crystals on Gloves. 

 

Hope you find this guide helping, if you have any questions I will be happy to answer!

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Why would you take Ancient Adamantine on the shoes if you are using Ancient Intimidation on the helm?  [ the ancient intimidation x2 each give %25 Knockdown resist+ %3 Evasion and max out your knockdown resist]? 

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Hey, I have distributed some charts for Blader gear. However, there were some faults in these and they have been corrected. Therefore, I thought I should upload a up-to-date chart for Blader gear that is in my opionion, the best gear you can have. 

 

Now I have made a FAQ because I have frequently been getting some of the same questions.

FAQ

  • Why not use Agerian armor

      - Agerian is simply bad. The health is not really needed and can be gotten from other armor pieces that doesn't have mediocre stats. The attack speed is easily gotten with Liverto or crystals. There is simply NO REASON to go Agerian as a Blader. You will lack WP and crystal slots, making you more vulnerable to knockdowns and less mobile, which is where Blader thrives. 

  • Why not user 3 Taritas?

      - If you use 3 Taritas you will get 7 more accuracy, but you will miss out on 5 AP, 1 crystal slot. And you will get a last piece that only gets its item effect. First of all, you get ALOT of Accuracy from Liverto/Kzarka and Black Horn Bow (41 Accuracy), and the 7 more accuracy isn't really needed. + if you go with Taritas Gloves you will miss out on the a crystal slot that prevents you from maxing either Attack Speed or Critical Hit. All in all, 3 Taritas is alot worse than the 2 Taritas + 2 Grunil combo. 

  • Why not use full Grunil?

      - Simple question and simple answer, WP. We need the WP, partly for our mobility and partly because some of our abilities does damage depending on our max WP. 

  • Why not use White Bow for more AP?

      - Because from Black Horn Bow you get 29(!) Accuracy. That is REALLY MUCH and extremly hard to obtain without using Black Horn Bow. 

  • Why is Accuracy needed?

      - Simply put, the more DP your opponent has, the less likely you are to hit them. Thus, against better geared people, you will need more accuracy.             Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4cb2hk/accuracy_explained_tests_results_and/ 

  • What is best Mesto- or Witch's Earring?

      - As stated before, the better geared your opponent is, the less likely you are to hit them. Therefore, Witch's Earring is better against low geared people, and Mesto will be better     against people with alot of DP, such as good geared Warriors. 

  • What is best Kzarka or Liverto?

      - They are nearly identical, aside from the fact that Liverto gives Critical Hit and Kzarka provides with Attack Speed. Since Blader wants to max out both of these it doesn't matter which of them you get. Just be sure to get the complementary crystals for your gloves. Example: I go Liverto for Critical Hit, then I need Attack Speed crystals on Gloves. 

 

Hope you find this guide helping, if you have any questions I will be happy to answer!

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Wanted to ask which enchants you were looking to use on armor? I can't decide between them as I'm uncertain which is the overall best to choose.

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Are you sure the Black Horn Bow gains additonal AP with enchantig? Other accuracy offhands don't gain any AP, only accuracy. If that's the case you would have over 50 AP less than stated in the table. If it does indeed gain AP as well as accuracy it would definitely be better than any other offhand and be kinda op. Does anyone know for sure?

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Wanted to ask which enchants you were looking to use on armor? I can't decide between them as I'm uncertain which is the overall best to choose.

I am probably gonna go Iron Wall. It mostly depends on the situation so there is no single enchant that is superior, except the ultimate. 

 

Are you sure the Black Horn Bow gains additonal AP with enchantig? Other accuracy offhands don't gain any AP, only accuracy. If that's the case you would have over 50 AP less than stated in the table. If it does indeed gain AP as well as accuracy it would definitely be better than any other offhand and be kinda op. Does anyone know for sure?

I don't really get your question, the base AP of the weapon increase during each enchant, as does most weapons. I know there are a few secondaries that doesn't increase in AP during each enchantment level, but I'm pretty sure most, if not all of them increases in DP instead. However, Black Horn Bow does increase in AP, which you can see here: http://bddatabase.net/us/item/13103/ 

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I am probably gonna go Iron Wall. It mostly depends on the situation so there is no single enchant that is superior, except the ultimate. 

 

I don't really get your question, the base AP of the weapon increase during each enchant, as does most weapons. I know there are a few secondaries that doesn't increase in AP during each enchantment level, but I'm pretty sure most, if not all of them increases in DP instead. However, Black Horn Bow does increase in AP, which you can see here: http://bddatabase.net/us/item/13103/ 

I'm still skeptical of that as things like the bronze dagger and henrick talisman do not increase AP on enchant and have no DP on them to increase (no other stats than AP and accuracy exist on them). Add in that pushing any item on that DB above +15 starts to raise things that were not raised during +1 to +15, chances are it has just defaulted to basic behavior of increasing AP, and very well could not actually raise AP once in the game.

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I'm still skeptical of that as things like the bronze dagger and henrick talisman do not increase AP on enchant and have no DP on them to increase (no other stats than AP and accuracy exist on them). Add in that pushing any item on that DB above +15 starts to raise things that were not raised during +1 to +15, chances are it has just defaulted to basic behavior of increasing AP, and very well could not actually raise AP once in the game.

This site show how items currently work on KR, where enchants over 15 exist. Since they don't here we can only speculate what bonuses will be given above 15, since the balancing issue of this is something that even Daum says is hard to control. More importantly, this site has never failed me on a single item, as you can see it provides correct data for items such as Bronze Dagger. This is by far the weirdest question I have gotten, I would recommend to not spend any more time thinking over this. If they decide to change the item so that it doesn't increase AP, it is a balance change because they want to lower the overall AP and thus it is just another nerf to handle. But I don't see any reason why they should nerf it, and I honestly think it is pointless to spend more energy into this. Thanks for your shown interest. 

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This site show how items currently work on KR, where enchants over 15 exist. Since they don't here we can only speculate what bonuses will be given above 15, since the balancing issue of this is something that even Daum says is hard to control. More importantly, this site has never failed me on a single item, as you can see it provides correct data for items such as Bronze Dagger. This is by far the weirdest question I have gotten, I would recommend to not spend any more time thinking over this. If they decide to change the item so that it doesn't increase AP, it is a balance change because they want to lower the overall AP and thus it is just another nerf to handle. But I don't see any reason why they should nerf it, and I honestly think it is pointless to spend more energy into this. Thanks for your shown interest. 

Just pointing out some peculiarities with the site. For example Vangertz shield doesn't raise AP, yet at above +15 it does according to the site (from my time in KR, and other statements), this does not happen. What the site appears to do is simply default items/enchant levels not yet in our game to raising AP. Basically don't trust everything on that site when it pertains to stuff not released in our version.

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Just pointing out some peculiarities with the site. For example Vangertz shield doesn't raise AP, yet at above +15 it does according to the site (from my time in KR, and other statements), this does not happen. What the site appears to do is simply default items/enchant levels not yet in our game to raising AP. Basically don't trust everything on that site when it pertains to stuff not released in our version.

Agreed.

Just pointing out some peculiarities with the site. For example Vangertz shield doesn't raise AP, yet at above +15 it does according to the site (from my time in KR, and other statements), this does not happen. What the site appears to do is simply default items/enchant levels not yet in our game to raising AP. Basically don't trust everything on that site when it pertains to stuff not released in our version.

Btw, found another source http://bdobase.info/wear that agrees with your theory that Black Horn Bow does not increase in AP. This would make White Horn Bow more viable. I will look into them both once again and update the guide.

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Agreed.

Btw, found another source http://bdobase.info/wear that agrees with your theory that Black Horn Bow does not increase in AP. This would make White Horn Bow more viable. I will look into them both once again and update the guide.

This makes a big difference in attack then what the database, which makes sense, because secondray with more than 60 AP was a little bit surprising

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I am probably gonna go Iron Wall. It mostly depends on the situation so there is no single enchant that is superior, except the ultimate. 

 

I don't really get your question, the base AP of the weapon increase during each enchant, as does most weapons. I know there are a few secondaries that doesn't increase in AP during each enchantment level, but I'm pretty sure most, if not all of them increases in DP instead. However, Black Horn Bow does increase in AP, which you can see here: http://bddatabase.net/us/item/13103/ 

I can safely say that black horn bow wont give you AP increase while enchanting. BDdatabase is bugged and is confusing blader offhands as ranger main hands. I had Nouver horn bow +18 in KR and it only gave 38-40AP (best off-hand in the game) and BDdatabase is telling that +15 black horn bow gives 62-66AP. White horn bow that will increase in AP as you upgrade it will give same amount of AP as Steel dagger and Jubre talisman

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I can safely say that black horn bow wont give you AP increase while enchanting. BDdatabase is bugged and is confusing blader offhands as ranger main hands. I had Nouver horn bow +18 in KR and it only gave 38-40AP (best off-hand in the game) and BDdatabase is telling that +15 black horn bow gives 62-66AP. White horn bow that will increase in AP as you upgrade it will give same amount of AP as Steel dagger and Jubre talisman

So which horn bow should we be aiming for; is the black horn bow still our best bet for the accuracy?

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If I want to for enhance a Liverto to +15,

how many memory fragments would that be in total?

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If I want to for enhance a Liverto to +15,

how many memory fragments would that be in total?

380

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380

Thank you. :)

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Thank you. :)

Since I'm only 47 and have't messed around with Liverto much, what are the memory fragments for? And are we talking simply just the Ancient Memory Fragments or the combination of 5 of them?

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Those are relics. Memory frags are used to reroll awkened skills and increase durability level of your gear. You lose durability as you fail enchants. You use memory frags because you would alternatively use another weapon and livertos shouldn't be used for that!

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So which horn bow should we be aiming for; is the black horn bow still our best bet for the accuracy?

First I used +15 yuria and black horn bow. Once I got Zaka weapon I swapped to White horn bow and then just swapped white horn bow to nouver when I got it .

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Hey, I have distributed some charts for Blader gear. However, there were some faults in these and they have been corrected. Therefore, I thought I should upload a up-to-date chart for Blader gear that is in my opionion, the best gear you can have. 

 

Now I have made a FAQ because I have frequently been getting some of the same questions.

FAQ

  • Why not use Agerian armor

      - Agerian is simply bad. The health is not really needed and can be gotten from other armor pieces that doesn't have mediocre stats. The attack speed is easily gotten with Liverto or crystals. There is simply NO REASON to go Agerian as a Blader. You will lack WP and crystal slots, making you more vulnerable to knockdowns and less mobile, which is where Blader thrives. 

  • Why not user 3 Taritas?

      - If you use 3 Taritas you will get 7 more accuracy, but you will miss out on 5 AP, 1 crystal slot. And you will get a last piece that only gets its item effect. First of all, you get ALOT of Accuracy from Liverto/Kzarka and Black Horn Bow (41 Accuracy), and the 7 more accuracy isn't really needed. + if you go with Taritas Gloves you will miss out on the a crystal slot that prevents you from maxing either Attack Speed or Critical Hit. All in all, 3 Taritas is alot worse than the 2 Taritas + 2 Grunil combo. 

  • Why not use full Grunil?

      - Simple question and simple answer, WP. We need the WP, partly for our mobility and partly because some of our abilities does damage depending on our max WP. 

  • Why not use White Bow for more AP?

      - Because from Black Horn Bow you get 29(!) Accuracy. That is REALLY MUCH and extremly hard to obtain without using Black Horn Bow. 

  • Why is Accuracy needed?

      - Simply put, the more DP your opponent has, the less likely you are to hit them. Thus, against better geared people, you will need more accuracy.             Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4cb2hk/accuracy_explained_tests_results_and/ 

  • What is best Mesto- or Witch's Earring?

      - As stated before, the better geared your opponent is, the less likely you are to hit them. Therefore, Witch's Earring is better against low geared people, and Mesto will be better     against people with alot of DP, such as good geared Warriors. 

  • What is best Kzarka or Liverto?

      - They are nearly identical, aside from the fact that Liverto gives Critical Hit and Kzarka provides with Attack Speed. Since Blader wants to max out both of these it doesn't matter which of them you get. Just be sure to get the complementary crystals for your gloves. Example: I go Liverto for Critical Hit, then I need Attack Speed crystals on Gloves. 

 

Hope you find this guide helping, if you have any questions I will be happy to answer!

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Thanks for that! Bought & farmed lot of the listed items for the upcomming blader. Hope the Black Horn Bow can be bought in calph like the yuria katana ^.-

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Thanks for that! Bought & farmed lot of the listed items for the upcomming blader. Hope the Black Horn Bow can be bought in calph like the yuria katana ^.-

The Black Horn Bow can apparently be bought at 500 amity from the accuracy off-hand vendor in Velia by the skill instructor.

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