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Blader/Musa Skill Guide


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I'm stuck with a point in Retaliation 1, anyone else? I can't seem to remove it.

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I'm stuck with a point in Retaliation 1, anyone else? I can't seem to remove it.

Same here.

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Same here.

I'm stuck with a point in Retaliation 1, anyone else? I can't seem to remove it.

it is given by quest

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Hey fellow Blader/Musa enthusiasts!

I hope I am not opening up a new thread where there is already one being discussed. I have seen lots of Blader/Plum Gear Guide threads on the forums, but not many Skill Guides. While, I am pretty confident in the direction I am going for gear, I am not sure what I am going to go for as far as Skills are concerned.

I would invite everyone to either post your chosen skills and/or talk about certain skills in particular which are top priority. I essentially want to try to help myself and others understand what each skills are useful for whether that be AoE farming, PvP, or a mix of both. http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator/blader is the website I've been using to learn about the skills and mess around with builds. I have not come up with one just yet. If you do post a full build, it would be nice for you to explain why you chose some or all of the things you went with.

Hope to get some good table talk going and get the hype going, even more, as Blader will hopefully be coming out this Wednesday!

at what level should i be getting rising storm? mid 20's havent gotten the quest for it yet. 

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at what level should i be getting rising storm? mid 20's havent gotten the quest for it yet. 

Something around 20-30 I think it is an important skill to have

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Something around 20-30 I think it is an important skill to have

yea I found it apparently you have no choice but to get it from skill vendor in heidel. I didn't have a quest letting me know that so I skipped through that town and continued my grind 

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http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator/blader/16992#

Not even going to delve into insulting all the terrible comments/builds here, just going to say most of them are equally terrible suggestions.

The link above is a good idea of what to aim for at around 55/56

I'll just briefly go over important stuff and choices

Priority: Maxing out rising storm, cc big damage, helps with farming, bread and butter of musa, the final upgrade is extra damage but on a long CD (maxing dash/sp restore is up here too)

2nd priority: Gale/dragons bite skill lines, you can animation cancel these together with your dash to get an insta-tornado for big damages, once you get the combo down its deadly. (Also don't forget blooding + blooding phantom, can be cancelled for good cc/dmg, a MUST have)

3rd: blind thrust, twisting slash skill lines (twisting better imo) are a good investment and will pay out farming and with your rising storm combo chains, tempest is quick and big dmg.

Final priorities: Carver is optional and you could even argue its better than putting points into blind slash, I liked using it and I upgraded it all the way first in korea, but it doesn't fit everyone. The bow skills are all super low damage and if you are going to invest, put points into the charged shot for the cc, other than that the last tree is an okay dodge but rather hard to aim and has a long cd. Blinding slash also a good upgrade if you are quick enough to get the air attack (which are 2.5x dmg I believe) from nemesis; personally I find it a harder combo to pull off and I never used it much, that's why the blind thrust tree is low on my list in general.

Skills to stay away from:

Tiger blade, I know this is a super fanboy skill and I'm sure some people have arguments defending it. Not me, in short it cuts your skill tree off and trades it for only being able to dash and auto with lifesteal (yes you have a few other skills, but they are not good ones) and imo its just a waste of SP you can put to better use elsewhere.

Backstep slash: personal dislike for the skill, it has a slow animation and pushes you backwards. While it gives you a slow it is just a very awkward skill that never finds its way in a real combat scenario. If your enemy is open you have much higher damaging skills, if you are trying to get away this skill is subpar because it only moves you backwards but gives you neither a block or an I-frame, quick both your block...AND dash give you, so its a waste in my book, the animation doesn't justify the cc slow for me, maybe at the end of a combo but even then you are taking a risk.

Upgrading block: Dislike very much, the original un-upgraded version seems to have more pep to it without the upgrades, and the upgrades lock you into an animation that is very easily read/dodged and leaves you vulnerable and unable to dash for 1s or so (big deal on a glass cannon) the damage modifier and cc seem attractive on paper but in practice this skill got me killed far more than it actually worked out for me, so I got rid of it :)

Divider: if you are only farming and hoping for no pvp encounters, go ahead and upgrade divider for the health return, it's totally useless in PVP (except using it for animation cancelling your dash, which 99% of the time, I would not advise)

Upgrading kicks: Screws up your dash animation cancel, hopefully they do not dumb down the way this works from Korea (hush crybabies)

Auto attack (slice) : as with most classes, there is pretty much no situation where you will be standing still and pressing lmb in real combat, and even if you had the opportunity carver: typhoon is still more damage, so...why? I'd say this is the last thing you should upgrade (talking like 900 SP here) just to get the bleed so you can try to weave in that one auto for the -15dmg per 3s.

Arrow grapple: go upgrade it in game, seriously. only actually using this skill can describe how awkward it is.

 

I'll probably be making a video or two to cover animation cancelling and general pvp strats once the release hits so I can help people understand the class a little better (I was lucky enough to get help in KR and it completely changed the way I viewed/played the class) granted I will probably try and hit 55 before I make a vid (hopefully only takes me 4-5 days) If you have any questions feel free to reply or message me, and if you have played Blader to 56 in KR/RU/JP like I have an have an argument against any of my suggestions feel free to make them or message me as well.

     Cheers xD

 

 

Hey bro ive tried getting rid of retaliation 1 and yea can't is there any way or do i have to remake my guy and skip that quest??

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Hey bro ive tried getting rid of retaliation 1 and yea can't is there any way or do i have to remake my guy and skip that quest??

Wow this would REALLY suck if you have to Skip a quest and redo the Character

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You can't skip the quest otherwise you wont get the combat quest for rising storm

is tigerblade an iframe when its active for its duration? or just when you activate it?

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This is a build I got off from Maneki Kitsune from Youtube. I've enjoyed his videos a lot, he seems to have a pretty good grasp on the class. Unfortunately, this is a 57 build with lots of Skill Points involved. So, I'm not sure exactly which ones I would go for first.

http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator/blader/14386

That build made me cringe xD i dont see musa atm having to really spec for half of that atm

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That build made me cringe xD i dont see musa atm having to really spec for half of that atm

yeah, after getting my hands in Blader personally I've started to really streamline my build. Props to Keg about Tiger Blade btw, those 16SP can be spent wisely elsewhere, especially early on

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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu-dge. So i may have gimped my Musa. :'( I put into Retal II and been following Slice and Divider and even took Backstep Slash.... The only plus side is I have been going down Rising Storm where possible and I think I have the second Gale in that line.

Is there a way to revert SP?

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If it's your first character ever, at lvl 45 (or 47, don't remember anymore), you will receive full SP reset item that is usable for 7 days from claiming. 

If not, well.. You have to spend money to buy it from the cash shop. 

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Seeing as he is almost 56 and knows his class inside out i will trust him i think. He kills with no problems but lacks aoe

I know this is old as -----... but, Sorc has perfectly decent AoE. Black Wave (albeit slow and useless for PvP) is great at wiping out groups during farming, and Shard Explosion -----s groups and gives mana, and Claws of Darkness has a nice, wide AoE segment, and Dark Flame (even with the nerf) can still wipe out groups of mobs when used appropriately... Use Mark of Shadow to tag groups of mobs like Wizard/Witch Chain Lightning and then when they group use anything above to wipe out entire groups.

I farm Helms Mines, Abandoned Monastery, and Wandering Rogues with the above skills and annihilate entire groups... If your friend says there is no AoE in Sorc, I can't help but wonder what skills your friend has invested in his Sorc. :P

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retal 1 puts you in an animation lock for 1.5s and personally I find it works to your detriment 9/10 times, if it hits its a good skill with cc and damage, but good players can avoid it pretty easily, q seems to activate faster without upgrading retal as well so :P

How is it possible to not have ratal 1? It was automatically unlocked for me and skill resets won't remove it.

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isnt retal 1 is a free skill so it doesnt cost any skill point?

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will this work for meahwa too ? :0

and twhats the dif between musa and meahwa ?

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