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This game is very satanic

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I've noticed the same things described by the OP.

The god of the Abrahamic religions is demonstrably a bumbling sadist. In the scriptures, despite doing far less harm than the deity, Satan gets the popular reputation for being evil, while the biggest evildoer [God, Allah] receives praise and admiration. In Black Desert Online, players tend to treat the spirit like Christians, Jews, and Muslims treat their god --we just go along without questioning too much whether or not we or the black spirits are being virtuous.

I expect that some players who are indoctrinated into the Great Monotheisms might experience an involuntary reflex of guilt or loathing about being led by a black spirit. They might want to take the opportunity to THINK about the morality of the situation instead of succumbing to dogmatism.

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While posting religious topics is not written in the rules as "not allowed" and while i applaud your theological brainstorming, general chat is not the place for this type of discussion.

If in any section it would be allowed, it would be in Off-topic.

In any case, as this can be a very heated topic and a few people have already complained about this religious thread, i will be locking this thread.

If you would like to continue this please do so in "Off-Topic" while being respectful of everyones differing beliefs. If you do create another thread in Off-Topic, a CM may at anytime over rule me and close that out as well.

Thank you and have a great day everyone.

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Jesusu....

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After consulting with the CM's i will unlock this thread and move it to off topic.

Please keep this subject respectful and constructive.

Thank you everyone.

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Anyone actually got a link to the story?

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The creepiness of the story and the black spirit started to fully occur to me when moments like this happened

(This was that quest to go find injured Eden)

I was also doing that random quest where you collect the harpy feathers for a soldier so it can boost his reputation and the black spirit told me to crush his dreams by not giving him the feathers and taking them elsewhere (might've told me to sell them, can't quite remember) but I ignored it and gave them to him in the end because I didn't want to comply with the evil of the spirit lol

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if you think about it, everything seems very satanic. Even pudding.

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oh great, so  now we are all going to hell....

well, some of us were already on our way there.

honestly this is more convenient for me cause I can carpool with one of you guys now and play my gameboy in the back.

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Yes, it's pretty sad. I'd like a in depth conversation but it seems the topic has already degenerated. 

I promise you I've already seen hell. Unlike most people, Smoking weed almost destroyed my psyche. It's not that I went insane, but rather all my perceptions where enhanced on an immense level. For around 8 months, I felt as if I was in hell. All I felt was suffering all around me and a constant negative energy. Loved ones would talk to me in a normal tone, but I would perceive nothing but hatred from them as if they were screaming at me. Shadows would grow around people faces if I looked at them too long, like some sort of demonic mask.

But somehow I made it out of that hell. From then on, I've began to realize there is more to life than we're told. I went from Atheist to Theist and I question everything I know. 

I promise you, Atheism is false, it leads it ignorance rather than knowledge. Instead of standing firm with your beliefs, question everything. Truth doesn't fear investigation.

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Darkness isn't calm or peaceful, it's like getting sucked through a pit at the speed of light with your soul getting ripped to shreds. Falling into it feels like collapsing into nightmare after nightmare, each getting progressively worse. You don't just suffer on your own, but instead feel the suffering of everyone around you and when you hit the bottom? You're frozen in a permanent state of agony, looking skyward to everything you wanted, begging to go back. You try to jump back, only getting a gasp of what heaven is like only to hit the ground to remember where you are.

Believe me, I know suffering dude, it's not fun.

.... *small sigh* fine ill get serious..

I promise you I've already seen hell. Unlike most people, Smoking weed almost destroyed my psyche. It's not that I went insane, but rather all my perceptions where enhanced on an immense level. For around 8 months, I felt as if I was in hell. All I felt was suffering all around me and a constant negative energy. Loved ones would talk to me in a normal tone, but I would perceive nothing but hatred from them as if they were screaming at me. Shadows would grow around people faces if I looked at them too long, like some sort of demonic mask.

Drugs do this, in regards to you going though Hell, yess I imagine being high as a kite would trip you out, alot, and you know what they say about weed, makes people paranoid ect.

 But somehow I made it out of that hell. From then on, I've began to realize there is more to life than we're told. I went from Atheist to Theist and I question everything I know. 

I promise you, Atheism is false, it leads it ignorance rather than knowledge. Instead of standing firm with your beliefs, question everything. Truth doesn't fear investigation.

Glad to hear you have a better life now, and yes there is alot more to life, questioning is always the right path.

Disagree with you on the Atheism part, the concept its self actually encourages those that follow it, to discover and prove it wrong, where faith encourages only blind and unquestioning, well, faith in it.

 Darkness isn't calm or peaceful, it's like getting sucked through a pit at the speed of light with your soul getting ripped to shreds. Falling into it feels like collapsing into nightmare after nightmare, each getting progressively worse. You don't just suffer on your own, but instead feel the suffering of everyone around you and when you hit the bottom? You're frozen in a permanent state of agony, looking skyward to everything you wanted, begging to go back. You try to jump back, only getting a gasp of what heaven is like only to hit the ground to remember where you are.

Believe me, I know suffering dude, it's not fun.

>.> Never thought anyone would take my Embrace the Darkness thingy serious, but fair enough, you replied and so will I.

Considering, you are still alive and well enough to type this, Ill be safely saying, your speaking from a personal account, Sounds more like a past manic depression to me, perhaps with some bi polar and I am guessing social problems and yeah I would agree, sounds like you have indeed suffered alot, and I am actually glad your getting better.

Those that cling to faith I find are one of three types of people:

1) Those like yourself who have been hurt, like, really hurt and have found faith, the idea of Faith being comforting and even healing to a degree.

2) Those that have been brought up in a family household where that faith is introduced to them at a very young age and they know nothing else and if they did question it or leave it, they would be kicked out of their family/communities... or worst.

3) Those that are using religion for personal power or gratification, wealth ect, the wolf in sheeps clothing, preying on the others.

Now, if I may. Why would you want to be Faithful to a God, who is, Evil?

A God that, according to the bible, is all seeing, all knowing, who knows about all the suffering in the world, and.... lets it happens, who created parasites who's entire life cycle targets human eyes *often children* and devours them from the inside making them blind, a god who allows flesh eating diease to exist, a god who with the barest effect could stop all the unspeakable evils and wrongs in this world, but, does nothing..

I am not Atheist good sir, I am Faithless, for I will not be enslaved to any man via another mans' fabricated story created only to give an explination to the unexplanable, and controll others.

 

 

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That's a spoil, can't spoiler get banned ?

I don't care if people are crazy, but I could have lived without this spoiler myself.:|

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I try to read all the knowledge and plots going on and the story gives off Marxist vibes more than anything to be honest xD At least to me.

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It's hard to explain. This wasn't just something I jumped to. Even when I was going through all of that stuff, I still questioned thing. At the time, I figured God was the devil, so no way I'd turn to religion thinking that.

It's more what I saw when I recovered: AKA Occult symbolism in music, Politics corrupted, and mainly NASA and the collection of lies they've been telling. 

After consulting with the CM's i will unlock this thread and move it to off topic.

Please keep this subject respectful and constructive.

Thank you everyone.

That's pretty awesome of you. Thanks. 

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I'd only like to straighten out that in the Bible Babylon Tower was build by humans because humans wanted to reach the heavens and be equal to God

no satan involved....

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The creepiness of the story and the black spirit started to fully occur to me when moments like this happened

(This was that quest to go find injured Eden)

I was also doing that random quest where you collect the harpy feathers for a soldier so it can boost his reputation and the black spirit told me to crush his dreams by not giving him the feathers and taking them elsewhere (might've told me to sell them, can't quite remember) but I ignored it and gave them to him in the end because I didn't want to comply with the evil of the spirit lol

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Now that's pretty sinister

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So what does it all mean Mason?

MASON, WHAT DOES THE STORY SAY

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Bait for the bait god 

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Now, if I may. Why would you want to be Faithful to a God, who is, Evil?

A God that, according to the bible, is all seeing, all knowing, who knows about all the suffering in the world, and.... lets it happens, who created parasites who's entire life cycle targets human eyes *often children* and devours them from the inside making them blind, a god who allows flesh eating diease to exist, a god who with the barest effect could stop all the unspeakable evils and wrongs in this world, but, does nothing..

I am not Atheist good sir, I am Faithless, for I will not be enslaved to any man via another mans' fabricated story created only to give an explination to the unexplanable, and controll others.

 

 

Well thats a common misconception on christianity.

You see first of all God does not "magically" wipe all evil in the world because He has given humanity free will and in His love to humanity He respects that.

and also it is not Him who created all the evil - like the parasites you mentioned.

I'm not sure if you read throught all the bible, or remember the beginning of Genesis Tome, but if you do - You should remember it being clearly stated that everything that god created was good.

all the evil stuff started to happening after Human have decided to make a sin, and all evil things in the world are originating from "someones" sin.

The one thing I've learned recently that creeped me a little bit out was the fact that all sins have more consequences than one would spot - that every heavy sin out there beginning from the very first one is tearign the fabric of creation - were there parasites in Eden? were animals hunting each other, and was nature endangering humanity? to both - no - it all started to happening only after human started sinning.

At least thats "official" story. sort of.

[and yeah I still ponder myself how for example one guys watching porn is tearing into the very fabric of all creation even as I see what bad outputs it could have on the man himself...]

You are missing on your list the 4th type of people who put their faith in God - although I do not blame you for probably not meeting them at any point of your life - the ones that have seen and experienced themselves contact with a God - and I ain't speaking about those guys on drugs who claims weird crap I mean real personal thing. I personally could not just deny Gods existance after seeing alot of his blessings bestowed on those who asked and trusted Him.

I encourage you to keep seeking though - just refusing out straight all the faith out there just because someone was very convincing on how all religions are bad and made to enslave people is imo as just bad as blindly following every single priest out there, so keep looking, sure question stuff, ask for arguments, but keep looking for truth being out there - and I'm sure you will find at some point YOUR very PERSONAL relation with a God :)

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Well thats a common misconception on christianity.

You see first of all God does not "magically" wipe all evil in the world because He has given humanity free will and in His love to humanity He respects that.

and also it is not Him who created all the evil - like the parasites you mentioned.

I'm not sure if you read throught all the bible, or remember the beginning of Genesis Tome, but if you do - You should remember it being clearly stated that everything that god created was good.

all the evil stuff started to happening after Human have decided to make a sin, and all evil things in the world are originating from "someones" sin.

The one thing I've learned recently that creeped me a little bit out was the fact that all sins have more consequences than one would spot - that every heavy sin out there beginning from the very first one is tearign the fabric of creation - were there parasites in Eden? were animals hunting each other, and was nature endangering humanity? to both - no - it all started to happening only after human started sinning.

At least thats "official" story. sort of.

[and yeah I still ponder myself how for example one guys watching porn is tearing into the very fabric of all creation even as I see what bad outputs it could have on the man himself...]

You are missing on your list the 4th type of people who put their faith in God - although I do not blame you for probably not meeting them at any point of your life - the ones that have seen and experienced themselves contact with a God - and I ain't speaking about those guys on drugs who claims weird crap I mean real personal thing. I personally could not just deny Gods existance after seeing alot of his blessings bestowed on those who asked and trusted Him.

I encourage you to keep seeking though - just refusing out straight all the faith out there just because someone was very convincing on how all religions are bad and made to enslave people is imo as just bad as blindly following every single priest out there, so keep looking, sure question stuff, ask for arguments, but keep looking for truth being out there - and I'm sure you will find at some point YOUR very PERSONAL relation with a God :)

 

Well thats a common misconception on christianity.

You see first of all God does not "magically" wipe all evil in the world because He has given humanity free will and in His love to humanity He respects that.

The free will, to bend to the will of God or end up being tortured forever and ever and ever and ever?

and also it is not Him who created all the evil - like the parasites you mentioned.

So your saying he is not, the creator, that there was another one, Who might that be? 

I'm not sure if you read throught all the bible, or remember the beginning of Genesis Tome, but if you do - You should remember it being clearly stated that everything that god created was good.

Yes, this was said before he molded Adam from the Clay of the earth, I imagine a world without humanity would indeed be good and beautiful. 

At least thats "official" story. sort of.

[and yeah I still ponder myself how for example one guys watching porn is tearing into the very fabric of all creation even as I see what bad outputs it could have on the man himself...]

I understand what you mean, think of it more like the butterfly effect and how it might go from watching porn, to watching hardcore porn, to watching more hardcore porn, to then watching.... sick stuff, then doing it. of course the persons history and background would also have to be looked into too, everything is a part of a puzzle and if you look hard enough and collect them you can put it togeather and see a picture. if this makes no sense, apologies, I just woke up xD

You are missing on your list the 4th type of people who put their faith in God - although I do not blame you for probably not meeting them at any point of your life - the ones that have seen and experienced themselves contact with a God - and I ain't speaking about those guys on drugs who claims weird crap I mean real personal thing. I personally could not just deny Gods existance after seeing alot of his blessings bestowed on those who asked and trusted Him.

 Alot of information about that person, their circemstances, their enviroment, their mental health ect would have to be taken into account before going down this route. after man ate the fruit of knowing, God does not reveal its self to man, even in the bible its always, always been though its slaves the Angles. 

I encourage you to keep seeking though - just refusing out straight all the faith out there just because someone was very convincing on how all religions are bad and made to enslave people is imo as just bad as blindly following every single priest out there, so keep looking, sure question stuff, ask for arguments, but keep looking for truth being out there - and I'm sure you will find at some point YOUR very PERSONAL relation with a God :)

Agree with you here, after all we learn nothing by not questioning, but I would ask you do the same, ask yourself and others the uncomfortable questions. 

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I'd love to know yhow you are breaking those quotes int pieces....

 

 

The free will, to bend to the will of God or end up being tortured forever and ever and ever and ever?[1]

So your saying he is not, the creator, that there was another one, Who might that be? [2]

Yes, this was said before he molded Adam from the Clay of the earth, I imagine a world without humanity would indeed be good and beautiful. [3]

I understand what you mean, think of it more like the butterfly effect and how it might go from watching porn, to watching hardcore porn, to watching more hardcore porn, to then watching.... sick stuff, then doing it. of course the persons history and background would also have to be looked into too, everything is a part of a puzzle and if you look hard enough and collect them you can put it togeather and see a picture. if this makes no sense, apologies, I just woke up xD [4]

 Alot of information about that person, their circemstances, their enviroment, their mental health ect would have to be taken into account before going down this route. after man ate the fruit of knowing, God does not reveal its self to man, even in the bible its always, always been though its slaves the Angles. [5]

Agree with you here, after all we learn nothing by not questioning, but I would ask you do the same, ask yourself and others the uncomfortable questions. [6]

[1] another thing that I find amusing is how people are thinking about the nature of Hell - in a nutshell after death there are two things - eternal life with God, whom is infinite love, or eternal life without him but knowing in 100% what you are missing, and it is not the God who "punishes" "bad people" by throwing them there - it is all consequences of their decisions - their decision to move away from a God

[2] I meant like all hostility and evil in the nature is the "aftereffect" of humans sin, and how all those sins are affecting fabric of creation - think of it like some living thing got "twisted" to be parasites

[3] it was also said after he created human as well

[4] that makes sens for effect on himself and people around him - I was talking about the forgotten by so many effect on the reality of creation :P

[5] I'd not call angels "slaves" per se and as for God showing himself in full glory to humanity - look at it this way - now you have a choice to believe whatever you want to believe and live however you like, now imagine that some day the God would show himself to all humanity - how much of choice would be then left for us?

[6] you may find it difficult to believe after my previous post, but I am asking myself and other uncomfortable questions :P all the time

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Hail Satan!

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Hail Satan!

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I'm confused who's Stan and why are ppl mad at him 

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I'm confused who's Stan and why are ppl mad at him 

Stan is that one Eminem fan that killed himself because Eminem didnt answer his fan mail.

 

Inb4 people commiting suicide due to unresolved tickets.

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As someone whose deities are dís, all I've got to say is: Snap, I think the Christians found us. Better put on my Batman costume.

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As someone whose deities are dís, all I've got to say is: Snap, I think the Christians found us. Better put on my Batman costume.

k ill bite

wtf does "dís" mean

 

 

 

 

does it mean you listen to Eluvietie

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I keep telling my cat to stop biting, now I need to tell humans to stop, too?

 

I don't know what Eluvietie is. Sounds like an opera singer.

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