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Who Are the 'Whales' Driving Free-to-Play Gaming? You'd Be Surprised

 

TLDR: top 5% percentile of your revenue comes from the big whales, please cater to them instead of everyone else who wants to spend as little as possible. Looking forward for this game to be P2W.

 

 

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They already have a p2w version. In Korea. Go there if you want p2w, or other p2w games.

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They already have a p2w version. In Korea. Go there if you want p2w, or other p2w games.

IP block though, tunneled shells are slow, and so are proxys/vpn. 

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IP block though, tunneled shells are slow, and so are proxys/vpn. 

Too bad so sad.

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Too bad so sad.

Tell me about it. /cries

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DW DAUM, I GOTCHU.

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IP block though, tunneled shells are slow, and so are proxys/vpn. 

What IP block? I can play just fine without any vpn/proxy

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I don't get it... 5% of revenue is from whales, but there no mention of how many  whales there are... Also, why cater to the 5% instead of the 95%?

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i bet many regret the dead of monthly sub now that gate are open and all idiots are on board!

 

the dead of monthly sub was the biggest lost consumer had in video game related subject. We lost any right we had to request fair-game and no P2W

 

you want free stuff they are never free shit will always hit the fun... there is NO FREE STUFF.

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Compares mobile games statistics to an mmo,

Let me help you there op and inform you this thread isn't off to a great start....

Stop baiting you pleb.

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Biggest problem here is you are being extremely shortsighted.

Whales tend to play games for a while, get bored, then move onto others fairly quickly.  Whereas normal paying and non-paying customers have a far higher chance of sticking around and spending even more money over time (especially as non-paying customers become paying if you introduce good content).  So while catering to whales may be good short term, it will kill the game in the long term.  Especially because a LOT of people will leave if Daum does this AND it would ruin their already poor reputation.

So no, what you are asking for is not what is best for their business.

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Save a whale a year by showering once a week ^-^

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I don't get it... 5% of revenue is from whales, but there no mention of how many  whales there are... Also, why cater to the 5% instead of the 95%?

Top 5% mean that they're one paying the most of the revenue (not 5% of the revenue), like how you would say the Top 1% of America.

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Top 5% mean that they're one paying the most of the revenue (not 5% of the revenue), like how you would say the Top 1% of America.

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It never says how much more they spend, though 

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Focusing on whales is good for the short term hence why mobile and p2w go well together; many mobile games come and go and people don't linger on them for long.  It's bad long term though and most MMOs are long term.  Some aren't even making it to that point anymore.  This is why they usually go the convenience methods now, basically the middle ground option.  Give some stuff to the whales and maybe get them to linger longer and the rest to non-whales who are likely staying anyways.  

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What IP block? I can play just fine without any vpn/proxy

Teach me master. 

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Only 26.5 hours a week?

Filthy casuals.

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IP block though, tunneled shells are slow, and so are proxys/vpn. 

Settle down in South Korea then.

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Compares mobile games statistics to an mmo,

Let me help you there op and inform you this thread isn't off to a great start....

Stop baiting you pleb.

Same idea applies due to the pareto-principle. The internet is not just used for porn :D you can thank me later. 

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Teach me master. 

Are you in the US or EU?

I am US and I have never had any issues logging into the KR version

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Are you in the US or EU?

I am US and I have never had any issues logging into the KR version

I'm UK, and blocked since EU release.

 

OT: You can already spend tons of money if you want to. No one stops you.

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OT: You can already spend tons of money if you want to. No one stops you.

Just offering a solid business strategy, it has nothing to do with how much money i personally have. I am actually poor now since my mortage just defaulted =( so i'm downsizing at the moment. 

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Who Are the 'Whales' Driving Free-to-Play Gaming? You'd Be Surprised

 

TLDR: top 5% percentile of your revenue comes from the big whales, please cater to them instead of everyone else who wants to spend as little as possible. Looking forward for this game to be P2W.

 

 

So these people are the reason why the current gaming industry is so shit and every game tries to nickle and dime you every five seconds. Thanks whales for ruining gaming!

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Same idea applies due to the pareto-principle. The internet is not just used for porn :D you can thank me later. 

No.

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