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Horse breeding is broken


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So i leveled up alot of various horses, from level 2 captured, and brought a few up to tier 6. Finally got a T6 female and leveled up male to 30, and female to 20. This is very time consuming as most people know. So, what was my result with 2 T6 females and 1 T^ male. I used 2 female resets and 1 male reset. 

I got 1 T6 male, 1 T6 Female and 2 T5 females. 

So, i can understand the t6 stayting t6, just really bad luck i guess (i have 5 but never seemed to be lucky with anything in game anyway) But for a level 30 and 20 to go backwards to T5 is weak at the very least. So, now ill start all over again with leveling, but not to 30 or 20, 10 will be enough as it seems to be either completely broken or just not a factor. 

It would be nice to see if you put an effort in leveling that you got a better and better horse, not loose a tier when breeding..

Morbid.

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So i leveled up alot of various horses, from level 2 captured, and brought a few up to tier 6. Finally got a T6 female and leveled up male to 30, and female to 20. This is very time consuming as most people know. So, what was my result with 2 T6 females and 1 T^ male. I used 2 female resets and 1 male reset. 

I got 1 T6 male, 1 T6 Female and 2 T5 females. 

So, i can understand the t6 stayting t6, just really bad luck i guess (i have 5 but never seemed to be lucky with anything in game anyway) But for a level 30 and 20 to go backwards to T5 is weak at the very least. So, now ill start all over again with leveling, but not to 30 or 20, 10 will be enough as it seems to be either completely broken or just not a factor. 

It would be nice to see if you put an effort in leveling that you got a better and better horse, not loose a tier when breeding..

Morbid.

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Is just RNG playing around with you.

T5 female out of T6 cross is actually very common.

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Is just RNG playing around with you.

T5 female out of T6 cross is actually very common.

So it seems, but thats not my point. My point was, change ti as its pretty lame to go backwards. It would be alot better if you put in effort and you gained, not lost. But thanks for clearing up something i already know.. as i said in the post, 50% of the horses came out lower then bred horses..

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You got T6 at least. All I got from my T6s, combined levels 55, were T5s.

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So it seems, but thats not my point. My point was, change ti as its pretty lame to go backwards. It would be alot better if you put in effort and you gained, not lost. But thanks for clearing up something i already know.. as i said in the post, 50% of the horses came out lower then bred horses..

The thing is that what you suggest could make the whole breeding process much faster, and the value could drop even more, and all the levelling would still be meaningless.

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Horse breeding is entirely RNG. Use this if you want to see some good estimated results.

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You had a 33% chance of getting a tier 5...

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If you had leveled the female to 25, you'd be better off...

http://i.imgur.com/KIU23z6.jpg

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Had about similar luck with my T6s.

However, it's possible that none of the colours in your T6es added up to 7, so it wasn't even possible for you to get a T7 horse. 

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You can only breed "pure breed" T7s for now, which means the colors need to add up to 7. I've heard its possible without the colors adding up to 7, but idk if that's true

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Ye depending on the colors of your T6s you cant get a T7, look at this at find your colors http://imgur.com/a/DaeiQ , THey need to have a combined Black 7 or red 7 or WHite 7 to have a chance at T7s. 

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you leveled the t6 male to 30 but the female to only 20? what a waste lol. you deserve that t5.

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you leveled the t6 male to 30 but the female to only 20? what a waste lol. you deserve that t5.

Combined level 50, the OP's hit the 700 threshold which gives a chance at t7 male and female. Wasted 6 levels on the lvl 30 horse but that's another story.

The point that RNG in this game - and horse breeding in particular - is ridiculous still stands. Except it's not broken. It's very much intentional: the more frustrated you get with leveling horses and not getting what you want from it, the more likely you are to run to the cash shop for those breeding resets.

Edited by Stillheart

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Combined level 50, the OP's hit the 700 threshold which gives a chance at t7 male and female. Wasted 6 levels on the lvl 30 horse but that's another story.

The point that RNG in this game - and horse breeding in particular - is ridiculous still stands. Except it's not broken. It's very much intentional: the more frustrated you get with leveling horses and not getting what you want from it, the more likely you are to run to the cash shop for those breeding resets.

A little chance ye, if he lvld it 5 more lvls he would have hit the optimum lvl for a tier change. So ye female to only lvl 20 was stupid, and ofc your gettin shit horses.

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Breed my t6 @ lvl 27 with a t5 @ lvl 4 got a T6

Do my breeding in heidel which i have at lvl 5 not sure if the lvls help but im having good luck so far.feqql11.jpg

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I don't think having T5 is a bad thing, because of the purebred colors in T5, I would rather have a purebred T5 than a tri color T6.

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A little chance ye, if he lvld it 5 more lvls he would have hit the optimum lvl for a tier change. So ye female to only lvl 20 was stupid, and ofc your gettin shit horses.

Actually, no, that's flat out wrong. There is no 'optimum for a tier change'.

If the OP had gone for the next threshold the added chance to produce a t7 would have been a whopping 3%. It takes double the time to level a t6 from lvl 22 to lvl 30 vs lvl 1 to lvl 22. Also, if you take a look at the spredsheet of collected data in the horse breeding thread, you will see that there were in fact fewer successes in the 750 threshold than 700.

Not to mention the frustration factor when getting a t5 from fully maxed out t6s (just as likely an outcome) is that much worse, take it from someone who has done it so many times I've lost count.

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its gambling would u call a lottery broken if u didnt win? I just hope ppl understand that any kind of gambling is mathematically designed to ----- you over (on average)

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Ye depending on the colors of your T6s you cant get a T7, look at this at find your colors http://imgur.com/a/DaeiQ , THey need to have a combined Black 7 or red 7 or WHite 7 to have a chance at T7s. 

I'm not a horse breeder but I am starting because I wan a t7, I never understood what "pure bred" meant until you show this pic. Thank you sir. That being said, the t5 horse we got from compensation, is that O in the t 5 chart? Because if it is, I also have the t6 horse F (storm) and they are both almost lvl 30 (27 and 26) this means that I will have an actual chance at a black 7 t7 yes?

Edited by Booger
put wrong letter for t6 horse, fixed now

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Am i the only one that actually likes these odds, and is super excited every time hoping for something nice?

Like opening a present not knowing what will be in it..
(though i must admit, i never spend any real money on it, and i never would)

If horse breeding frustrates you, go do something else and just buy a horse :P
the 5% speed increase hardly seems worth all this frustration (or real money).

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the more frustrated you get with leveling horses and not getting what you want from it, the more likely you are to run to the cash shop for those breeding resets.

Or more likely to dump the game overall and go play something else. Because that happens too.

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Or more likely to dump the game overall and go play something else. Because that happens too.

Preach on, sister - I am just about there myself:)

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So many people crying so hard about this.  This is one of those difficult to acquire things.  Something that these Korean MMORPG's do.  I spent MONTHS and 1000's of gold lost in Archeage trying to get the rare Polar Bear mount, and finally did. 

This is one of  those things that I am going to spend a lot of time working towards.  I want that purebred black horse, not because it's the fastest, but because it's so rare.  Eventually, I'll work my way up to the tier 9 horses. 

A fast horse is easy to obtain.  I have a tier 6 red/black male, 143 base speed, with sprint and start accel that works great for getting around.  Now I want my trophy horse. 

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I want that purebred black horse, not because it's the fastest

No worries, you definitely won't get the fastest, seeing as how the black t7 is the slowest one.

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So many people crying so hard about this.  This is one of those difficult to acquire things.  Something that these Korean MMORPG's do.  I spent MONTHS and 1000's of gold lost in Archeage trying to get the rare Polar Bear mount, and finally did. 

This is one of  those things that I am going to spend a lot of time working towards.  I want that purebred black horse, not because it's the fastest, but because it's so rare.  Eventually, I'll work my way up to the tier 9 horses. 

A fast horse is easy to obtain.  I have a tier 6 red/black male, with sprint and start accel that works great for getting around.  Now I want my trophy horse. 

Or you could wait till they release the horse appearance change coupons and it won't matter which one you get.

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