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GMs do not delete this, it is a poll.

What should Daum do?   251 votes

  1. 1. To save pvp they should:

    • Remove karma loss
      52
    • Introduce karma loss to pvp death
      12
    • Introduce crystal loss to pvp death
      16
    • Add disenchanted gear to pvp death
      8
    • Add a progressive system (explained below
      11
    • Revert it back to how it was before (1% exp loss to victim, 64k Karma loss to criminal)
      74
    • Nothing (I want this game to die, I only fish in the safezone)
      42
    • I like the change
      36

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Posted

If you don't lose exp, you need to remove karma it's as simple as that, I know that because cms and gms both do not play this game, i need to explain this but the only form of griefing in game right now is players with 0% exp karma bombing groups farming a spot.

Now you've just made life easier for grieves and you have made it impossible to claim or defend a farming spot, as the group who die and do not lose anything are rewarded. 

The progressive system mentioned in the poll above works to stop suicide bombers from ruining a players gameplay experience, doing this works as follows, the first 2 deaths player b has to player a are free, the third death costs 1% exp the fourth costs 1% and chance of losing the same crystal he would have lost if he died in pve, the fifth has a chance to disenchant gear, lose every crystal and up to 5% exp. 

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You forgot the option to change it back as it was (best option).

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PUT 1% LOSS BACK

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i voted :Nothing (I want this game to die, I only fish in the safezone)

you can close this thread now.

 

Edited by Hada
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Instead of removing it entirely I'd say: reduce the karma loss per pk and also reset it daily or once a week if daily is too soon.

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Posted

 

You 

you 

Me? You? He? She? It? 

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LOL the poll is biased itself.

Karma loss and no exp loss (if karma above 0) all the way.

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Translation: "Agree with me or you want this game to die"?

Yeah... nope.

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i voted :Nothing (I want this game to die, I only fish in the safezone)

you can lose this thread now.

You 

you 

thanks for voting to revert the changes back to how they were before!

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thanks for voting to revert the changes back to how they were before!

Manipulating my vote doesnt work or deleting it

the system is rigged /thanksobama

 

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Biased poll is biased.

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Damn this was really a bad move from DAUM. I could request a refound on money spent since the game is not as advertized.

 

But i will go and KS the shit out of ppl grinding in peace now ^_^

 

I vote to close down forums and kill all comunication with DAUM.

 

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Bring Back BDO KR CBT2 PK system. 

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thanks for voting to revert the changes back to how they were before!

reported for manipulating the vote :D 

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cause with "GMs do not delete this, it is a poll. " as title surely everyone will see what your thread is about.

 

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Firstly, stop the nay-saying. This is as bad as when PvErs say crap like "as soon as I hit 45 I'm just going to get constantly ganked". In reality it is never like that.

Not everyone in the game is a -----, ok? There is this thing called diplomacy. I like PvP and have PvPed for grind spots but if I'm solo I don't feel the need to just go harass people happily grinding away and steal their mobs, its common courtesy. A lot of times I speak to other players and we agree which mobs we each take.

 

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Yaay! Another poll where we can choose all the answers.

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Removing karma loss and introducing more PvE ways of going outlaw would be the way to go.

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Do you want to play in PvE server? Done :D

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cause with "GMs do not delete this, it is a poll. " as title surely everyone will see what your thread is about.

 

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They deleted the previous poll and merged only the text into the megathread

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To save PVP they should DELETE this post. :D

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I have a simple yes/no poll here, please also feel free to vote on that as well:

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WORST PATCH YET..

 

Players with 0 or more Karma will no longer lose EXP when they die to another player in PvP.

 

Kill them all you want, they will keep coming back.. SO now its just a flat DPS race for Ogres.. So how exactly are the tank classes meant to out dps rangers and sorcs?

 

Does anyone at daum think these things thru?

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Answer is easy, introduce a 2 minute respawn timer to PvP deaths from non-warring players. As you are killed more frequently at that same node, the respawn timer gets longer. You can change channels and reset the timer.

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I'm going to bite..

 

I did not complete the poll as I do not understand what the hassle is about. So let me explain the situation as I see it.

 

As a lvl45 player I can both attack and be attacked by other players. I need to activate a key combo to do this. This signals my intention to attack another player.

My Karma is at XXXX, if I instigate the attack, I lose karma. If the outcome is player loses "life" and "dies" then the karma loss is substantial. If the karma goes below a certain point - all manner of nasty things happen like you get attacked when you are in a town and can't do stuff easily.

You also get XP for doing this. That I never really understood and that would mean a griefer could farm players and level up that way. Is or was that intended? But, I digress.

The killed player loses XP - that seemed wrong to me as the attacked person was either afk or minding their own business, doing what must be done in this game to level up - killing mobs.

Then there is the whole grinding area scenario. I need to get to mobs that help me level up, and these areas are defended by stronger, levelled up ppl that are stopping others levelling because they can.

Doesn't it make sense that if you wish to be a douchebag, you should be penalised for it?

 

Nope - no problems with what they have done. Adapt.  

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