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How to Maximized Experience Boost

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Hello there my fellow levelers!

In BDO you grind a lot. And to be fair there's no rush to max level (hard cap). However, it feels nice to "hit that next level" doesn't it? ;) I'm currently 26.8% on 55 and is on my way to 56!

I spend a few minutes to gather all the info I could come across according all the possible XP buffs/passives in game, this is the list I came up with:

Night XP 20 - 30% (not sure about the amount) source: you get this automatically between 10PM - 7AM ingame time

XP scroll 50% source: costs 300 loyalty points from Cash Shop (press F3)

Set bonus 10% source: in the Cash Shop (press F3) you can purchase a set. All sets except Fishing suit and Ghullie suit gives you this bonus.

Experience Elixir 10% source: Can be crafted with alchemy but also bought on AH.

Light EXP scroll 5-10% source: Can be found by looting random objects around the world. Also commonly obtained from chests that are unlocked with bronze/silver keys. Some quests in the beginning of the game rewards you with these as well.

3x Pets 9% source: Cash Shop. By breeding pets to higher tiers than tier 1 unlocks pet abilities which one can be (if you are lucky/rich enough) 3% combat experience.

Milk Tea 8% source: Can be crafted with cooking but also bought on AH.

Combat Awakening Skill 2% source: at level 48 you can awaken your abilities. Some abilities can get a buff which gives you 2% experience for 5 seconds after usage. See your black spirit after lvl 48 for more info :>

Titles 3-5% source: when getting new titles in game you are rewarded with luck, bonus experience and energy. Press P and go underneath titles to see your progression.

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2x XP crystals 20% source: Magic Crystal of Infinity - Experience (one per account can be acquired from Hailey in Altinova for 240 energy points).

From level 49+ there is a quest-line acquired next to the storage manager by Hailey. Your mission is to answer 21 questions in order to get a Hard Black Crystal Shard and a Magic Crystal of Infinity - Experience. Before you start guessing and losing 10Energy each wrong answer, I give you the answers in advance.
From #1 till #20 it costs you 10 Energy each time and #21 costs 40 Energy to answer making a total of 240 Energy needed to complete the quest and receive your reward.

The quest is shared between the characters, therefore you can use multiple characters if you dont have 240 energy in total

[DISCLAIMER] Spelling/Translation mistakes included.

Answer #1 - Captain of Moguly Pirates
Answer #2 - 101
Answer #3 - Lord Accusation
Answer #4 - Sexually harrased assilience
Answer #5 - Remains of Ancient Giant
Answer #6 - Allan Serbin
Answer #7 - Dark Red Crystal
Answer #8 - Khuruto
Answer #9 - Comitia of Tantinis
Answer #10 - The Mausoleum
Answer #11 - Kamasilve Temple
Answer #12 - Neruda Shen
Answer #13 - Adam Berney
Answer #14 - Mediah Shore
Answer #15 - Alustin
Answer #16 - Sezec Hunters
Answer #17 - Cron Castle
Answer #18 - Scuffling Letusa
Answer #19 - Helmet
Answer #20 - Wandering Rogues
Answer #21 - Bareeds III

 

 

Added up that's a crazy ~150% experience boost!

Without the limited ones you are at ~70%. That's like 1.5 loyalty xp scroll passively!

Please let me know if you are aware of more possible xp buffs/passives (gm buffs should not be added to this list, since you don't know when you will get them).

 

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Elixirs of Splendid Experience give 15% EXP, I believe that is a recent change. If I recall correctly, the blue quality EXP elixirs used to give the same 10% as the green quality elixirs, but lasted 3 minutes longer. Now however, they still last the 3 minutes longer but also give 5% more EXP. 

Also, don't forget the 3% Combat EXP gems that you can purchase off of the marketplace. They're equally as rare as the 10% EXP gem from the Altinova quest chain, since you can obtain them only once per account, but they're accessible to a wider audience of players since you get them at low level. This causes them to pop up on the marketplace rarely, but more frequently than the 10% EXP gems. 

You mentioned GM's Blessings, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to mention that they give 10% EXP gain. 

Also, regarding titles. Is this chart incorrect? I've not seen anyone provide evidence that it is. If it is accurate, then you're able to get more than 3-5% EXP gain from titles. 

Title_Rewards_Chart_BDO.thumb.png.b8688c

I am currently around 240 titles if I recall correctly (can't access the game right now) so I can't attest to getting 6% EXP or not. 

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I was told that exp% capped at 75%. Is this true?

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That's nice and all but your exp gained is capped at 50% (not counting 50% exp scroll), soooooooo thats a huge waste of items.

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That's nice and all but your exp gained is capped at 50% (not counting 50% exp scroll), soooooooo thats a huge waste of items.

Yup that's right you can only get 50% bonus exp, and at night i believe you get 50% bonus already so dont waste your money and time trying to stack all the buffs it wont work.

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That's nice and all but your exp gained is capped at 50% (not counting 50% exp scroll), soooooooo thats a huge waste of items.

 

Yup that's right you can only get 50% bonus exp, and at night i believe you get 50% bonus already so dont waste your money and time trying to stack all the buffs it wont work.

i stacked all the avaible buffs i had last week to get to lvl 56. and with every buffood, elixir or scroll i got more EXP so no its not capped at 50% or anywhere. If you dont believe it jsut try it yourself but pls with more then 1 mob at lvl 55 because one mob gives you 0,002 exp maybe but you dont knwo if its 0,0023 or so. I tested it with a complete round of the same mobs with same equip within 5 minutes and every time i got little bit more exp overall. (so a proof of increased exp with 30% exp event, 50% exp loyalty scroll, exp elixir 8%, exp scroll from chests 5% AND exp food 8% )

BTW korea has sometimes exp bonus weekends with 200-300% and other bufffood and cashshopitems that would give you way more then 200% extra on normal days. so NO THERE IS NO F*** CAP!

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i stacked all the avaible buffs i had last week to get to lvl 56. and with every buffood, elixir or scroll i got more EXP so no its not capped at 50% or anywhere. If you dont believe it jsut try it yourself but pls with more then 1 mob at lvl 55 because one mob gives you 0,002 exp maybe but you dont knwo if its 0,0023 or so. I tested it with a complete round of the same mobs with same equip within 5 minutes and every time i got little bit more exp overall. (so a proof of increased exp with 30% exp event, 50% exp loyalty scroll, exp elixir 8%, exp scroll from chests 5% AND exp food 8% )

BTW korea has sometimes exp bonus weekends with 200-300% and other bufffood and cashshopitems that would give you way more then 200% extra on normal days. so NO THERE IS NO F*** CAP!

Well, i've read many other forum posts about the exp buff stacking until somone linked another one that tested it out and apparently it does not stack past 150% exp (so 50% boost) but if you want to keep wasting your scrolls and food (not thats its a big deal since its so cheap but w/e) go ahead. I'm not convinced myself and i dont notice any difference after a night with or without exp boost. Still getting the same exp in a single night (lvl.55). If you can give me definitive proof that they do stack though i would be more then willing to admit i was wrong.

 

Ps. I dont see how KR's bonus weekends have anything to do with the exp cap ? It's like our 30% exp boost weeks now they add to the base exp. so they are and always will and have been outside of any cap you can think of. Right now you can get up to 150% of 130% exp compared to just grinding without any buffs (apart from the title once since thats inherent to your family and cant be turned off)


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Also, don't forget the 3% Combat EXP gems that you can purchase off of the marketplace. They're equally as rare as the 10% EXP gem from the Altinova quest chain, since you can obtain them only once per account, but they're accessible to a wider audience of players since you get them at low level. This causes them to pop up on the marketplace rarely, but more frequently than the 10% EXP gems. 

Also, regarding titles. Is this chart incorrect? I've not seen anyone provide evidence that it is. If it is accurate, then you're able to get more than 3-5% EXP gain from titles. 

Title_Rewards_Chart_BDO.thumb.png.b8688c

I am currently around 240 titles if I recall correctly (can't access the game right now) so I can't attest to getting 6% EXP or not. 

The 3% combat EXP gems also go into the helmet, so they probably aren't mentioned for the reason that they clock up the helmet slots. And I got once a dim magical crystal from a monster, so they might drop outside of the level rewards.

The chart is both correct and incorrect. Luck is capped at 3, the Energy points go up to 8 (at 1500, but so many titles don't exist), EXP is correct and the Stamina once should be +50 - +200 (but 5% or 20% from our 1000 base are 50 or 200 after all)

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The 3% combat EXP gems also go into the helmet, so they probably aren't mentioned for the reason that they clock up the helmet slots. And I got once a dim magical crystal from a monster, so they might drop outside of the level rewards.

The chart is both correct and incorrect. Luck is capped at 3, the Energy points go up to 8 (at 1500, but so many titles don't exist), EXP is correct and the Stamina once should be +50 - +200 (but 5% or 20% from our 1000 base are 50 or 200 after all)

Interesting, it'd be nice to know of the 3% gems could be farmed. I feel like they're worth mentioning though because of the rarity of all EXP gems. Most people use helmets with two slots, getting two 10% EXP gems is quite the task. It wouldn't be a bad idea to stick a 10% and a 3% into the same helmet while you wait to get 20%. 

Also interesting, thanks for the info. 

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Well, i've read many other forum posts about the exp buff stacking until somone linked another one that tested it out and apparently it does not stack past 150% exp (so 50% boost) but if you want to keep wasting your scrolls and food (not thats its a big deal since its so cheap but w/e) go ahead. I'm not convinced myself and i dont notice any difference after a night with or without exp boost. Still getting the same exp in a single night (lvl.55). If you can give me definitive proof that they do stack though i would be more then willing to admit i was wrong.

 

Ps. I dont see how KR's bonus weekends have anything to do with the exp cap ? It's like our 30% exp boost weeks now they add to the base exp. so they are and always will and have been outside of any cap you can think of. Right now you can get up to 150% of 130% exp compared to just grinding without any buffs (apart from the title once since thats inherent to your family and cant be turned off)


ok proof for you as you claim night with or without the 50% and all the other stuff wont be any difference: (my test with or without scroll over ingame night i think it was with lvl 55 trying to find out which place is best for me solo exp wise and if the exp event stacks etc)

1hour of farming with 40 minutes night in it. So 40 minutes night, 20 minutes day killing manes on the same spot(one clear round without interruption so same killspeed) as base ok?

2,415% exp with milk tea(8%), exp elixir(10%), costume bonus (10%), treasure chest scroll (5%), 3% title bonus and the exp bonus (30%)

and now the same but another night and with the loyalty scroll(so 50% on top) got me 3,241%. So no cap there because i got ontop of the 63% bonus i already had another % of bonus on top...so no 50% cap or otherwise i would have gotten nothing more ontop because 63% would be already over the cap!.Even without the event it would be 36% and 14% left for the cap. but the difference between 2,415 and 3,241 is more then 14% ^^

AND this number can be true to my theore that you dont get cumulative %, its more like always 8% of baseexp+10%of baseep+30%of base exp and so on and so on. So there will be never a cap because all is calculated seperatly and sum up in the end....

So now i want to see your numbers of claiming there is a cap and that its wasted money/loyalty points! (and yes i even have screens with the exp test at start of the 1h and end of the 1h i always took a screenshot! so if you want more proof i can provide it.)

I mean with lvl 55 you wont see such a high difference if you dont care to look at the numbers and test if it goes 5% up or not...sadly i am now lvl 56 otherwise i would test the same round and night without any buff and show this number too ^^

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ok proof for you as you claim night with or without the 50% and all the other stuff wont be any difference: (my test with or without scroll over ingame night i think it was with lvl 55 trying to find out which place is best for me solo exp wise and if the exp event stacks etc)1hour of farming with 40 minutes night in it. So 40 minutes night, 20 minutes day killing manes on the same spot(one clear round without interruption so same killspeed) as base ok?

2,415% exp with milk tea(8%), exp elixir(10%), costume bonus (10%), treasure chest scroll (5%), 3% title bonus and the exp bonus (30%)

and now the same but another night and with the loyalty scroll(so 50% on top) got me 3,241%. So no cap there because i got ontop of the 63% bonus i already had another % of bonus on top...so no 50% cap or otherwise i would have gotten nothing more ontop because 63% would be already over the cap!.Even without the event it would be 36% and 14% left for the cap. but the difference between 2,415 and 3,241 is more then 14% ^^

AND this number can be true to my theore that you dont get cumulative %, its more like always 8% of baseexp+10%of baseep+30%of base exp and so on and so on. So there will be never a cap because all is calculated seperatly and sum up in the end....

So now i want to see your numbers of claiming there is a cap and that its wasted money/loyalty points! (and yes i even have screens with the exp test at start of the 1h and end of the 1h i always took a screenshot! so if you want more proof i can provide it.)

I mean with lvl 55 you wont see such a high difference if you dont care to look at the numbers and test if it goes 5% up or not...sadly i am now lvl 56 otherwise i would test the same round and night without any buff and show this number too ^^

Well i'll do some testing myself then but from what i understood out of their explanation was that you could not simply stack all the exp buffs and get >100% bonus exp (so you would get 209% of 130% the normal amount which is 270% instead of 100%).

If that were the case i'm sure ther would be people that got past 60 by now. Another tginh to note is that only one of each type of buff can be active at the same time except for pets, those stack. But Exp scrolls dont.

Lets's see what types of exp buffs we can stack:

  • Pets: 3 pets of 3% get you 9% (but those are very rare i guess so we'll leave them out)
  • Elixers: Splendid exp elixer gets you 15% bonus.
  • Food: Milk tea for 8%.
  • Scroll: 50% bonus (loyalty one)
  • Passive: Anywhere from 3% to 12%
  • Gem: 2* 10% exp gems (or say 2*3% ones in case you are not so hardcore) so 6% or 20%
  • Awakenings: .... Let's not get into this this is a garbage awakening so nobody should have it.
  • Time: Nighttime gives you 50% bonus exp (from pewrsonal experience and also from reddit thread with some users posted the numbers, now this is not definitive proof but you are free to test it out yourself Link)
  • Guild boost: Does not stack with scrolls apparently so i wont mention it here.
  • Costume: 10% But this is pearls so we'll leave it out for the caculations here.

So what do we expect if we add it all up:

MAX:  9% (pet) + 15% (elixer) + 8% (food) + 50% (scroll) + 12% (Titles) + 20% (gems) + 50% (night) = 164% boost

This would mean that for 40 min of nighttime you can get 264% experience instead of 100% (minimum).

Now what's the more "realistic max"

RMAX: 15% (elixer) + 8% (food) + 50% (scroll) + 3% (titles) + 6% (gems) + 50% (night) = 132% boost

Resulting in 232% instead of 100%.
This boost whould be not to ohard to maintain for 40 min and find out how much exp you got. Do it solo in a spot where you do a small rotation so you kill mobs almost on respawn, that way you know your ratio of mobs/night is the same both times.

Then there is the "regular" i'll call it that everyone can always keep up without micro-management.

REG: 8% (food) + 3% (titles) + 50% (night)  [ + 50% scroll but those are loyalties so not realistic to keep it up every day, every hour  and the same goes for elixers you'd have to pop every 8 or 5 min. The gems are very rare so also excluded] = 61% boost

Leading us to 161% instead of 100%.
So this is almost your "standard" experience.

All of the previous was going from 100% base experience, but this event adds 30% to the base experience so now those should all be calculated on 130% instead of 100%.

MAX = 164% *  130% =  213.2% extra exp -> 343.2% experience ( the base you get of 130% + 213.2% extra)
Or even worse 164% * 100% (normal exp) + 130% (base exp) = 294% exp. But this seems less likely.
 

RMAX = 132% * 130% = 171.6% extra -> 301.6 % experience
When bonus is not calculated on the boosted exp: 132% + 130% = 262% exp.
 

REG = 61% * 130% = 79.3% extra -> 209.3% experience
Or on 100% base 61% * 100% = 61% extra -> 191% exp

 So now its up to you if you really want to test it all out and note down the experience diffrences from 1 mob, 10 mobs , 100 and the whole 40 min of mobs (before and after). That should be a decent test base. Maybe put it all in a nice excell so its a lot more clear then my scribbling ^ up there.

 

TL;DR Test it yourself. ^0^

 

AND this number can be true to my theore that you dont get cumulative %, its more like always 8% of baseexp+10%of baseep+30%of base exp and so on and so on. So there will be never a cap because all is calculated seperatly and sum up in the end....

You do know that 100% + 8% * 100% + 30% * 100% + 3% * 100%  = 100% + 41% * 100% right ?

If they were not cumulative as you said then that would mean that either the biggest of them was waht the game takes (viable theory)

So in this case since 30% is from game the biggest is 8% and you would be gaining 130% + 8% * 100% (or 8% * 130% in case it's a base exp increase boost as i believe it is -> 130% + 8% * 130%)
Just throwing it out there so you dont get confused.

Edited by Bluem00n
Forgot costume >.<

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i am not confused completly no worries. And as i said i didnt do any much more testing then looking into if the buffs + event + 50% loyalty is stacking and how much exp i will earn per night to know how to get to lvl 56 efficient. Therefore i dont know if and how exactly the EXP is calculated with all the buffs etc. Only thing i know is that all of this are stacking/working together and BTW guildbuff goes ontop (confirmed by a guildmember farming on pirate island  2 weeks same route with doing alot of math to get the most exp out of there. he always has all buffs + exp crystals in the helmet + if guildleader activates it the guildbuff and with the guildbuff he got more exp then without...so it goes ontop aswell. an he is rly min/maxing there...he is sometimes crazy xD )

You do know that 100% + 8% * 100% + 30% * 100% + 3% * 100%  = 100% + 41% * 100% right ?


yes i know, maybe i didnt explained what i mean overall.

most ppl thing it goes ontop. Dont know how to explain what i mean (i am not an english native speaker ^^ )

lets say 100%+8% = the new base and then the new 100% gets the 30% on top and so on...thats the reason some ppl say "nah i didnt got 50% more exp if i take the scroll, i got less so it has to be capped! ^^

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Ah now i understand what you mean :P Yes no thats not how math works. So you are affirmative you can infinitely stack the different buffs ? Hmm it's possible, i'll be testing it out some more myself i suppose.

I'll try to do 60 min of nothing and then stack every single buff possible for 60 min and see what the difference is. Then just do that over and over always the same amount of mobs/rotation dropping a buff every time to see if they all do stack. But that's going to take some time :) . If i ever feel really bored i might make a nice overview of it and post it on the forums XD. Meanwhile enjoy griding and the other aspecs of the game.

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i didnt try/tested the guildbuff thing but a guildmate did some numbers and said the guildbuff ontop gave him more then without and he normaly even takes the blue exp elixirs with +15% not the normal ones + milktea+50%+ gems in helmet and what ever else ^^

Would be nice if you make a new thread then after testing. i am atm quiting killing monsters after reaching lvl 56 and now doing some title/knowledge/profession stuff. Too much grinding the last days ^^

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Oh yeah i alrdy get bored halfway lvl 55-56 ;) the Susans guys are really REALLY starting to annoy me.

I guess i hsould get my gear up so i kill them faster but that needs silver for which i need to grind >.<
So much grinding. While also lvling life skills breeding horses and doing quests becasue .. idk FUN @-@

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You have get many Light EXP Scroll+5% simply by doing the Bheg Daily Scrolls.

Gather the Altar's Imp Trumpet misc items and exchange them at Lynch farm. You get 1 scroll every 10 pieces.

Note that the scrolls are kinda heavy at 1LT and they are character bound, so you can't put them in storage, so exchange and take as many scrolls as you need and store the Altar's Imp Trumpets to your storage!

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Everyone in this thread fails.

Some of the buffs are totally not worth it. In fact, most aren't worth it at all, cept the 50% one.

NOT BY A LONG SHOT.

The added ATK buffs you get from food will offset EXP buffs by miles.

You all forget, killing faster yields more EXP. More EXP for you and more EXP for your party.

And, I know for a fact that simply adding a few AP amkes you kill stuff much faster.

So...guys...choose killing speed instead of XP bonus.

Killing speed is an exponential increase in overall character growth. You get more loot and more silver as well.

Take a whole party and smother it entirely in ATK buffs. You will realize quickly how your attempt to get the most XP bonus is silly.

Just figure it out.

5 players all using all possible XP buffs.

or

5 players all using all possible ATK buffs.

 

It's easy to understand guys, come on.

 

There will be a time, though, where your killing speed will kinda of be capped. This is when you should use XP buffs.

 

If people don't mind carrying you and you don't mind being carried, maybe you can get lazy and stack XP buffs.

 

But, IMO, killing speed >>>>>> XP buffs.

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if you are serious about grinding min/maxing then you have the EXP bufffood AND the attack bufffoods (yes you can have 3 running at the same time if you do it right! ) aswell as attack elixir, def elixir and other elixir running. And now with the partybuff elixirs it should be much easier with the elixirs aswell (if it works that everyone uses another elixir. actually didnt tested this out)

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